The Feather

When discussing spies, we must also look to the CDT-TNWO war. Although in this case, the spies were heralded and the spied upon were attacked.

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I think that in the end, NSO came out with a political victory.

So what's the total count of alliances attacking TPF now?

So seeing that TPF has 84 nations in anarchy and 14 in peace mode out of a total of 119, how long do people think it will take surrender to happen?

When I did, my policy was 3+ members.

Remember, it can only be as big as TPF has war slots.

While I do believe there was some legitness of saying it was only suggested actions and not actually spying, my recommendation would have been strongly against this move, too late now though. Hey, maybe Planet Bob will get two wars at once?

Hooah, hooah, hooah!

So is anyone on the Athens side attacking ZH?

Massive cancellations of treaties.

It's better than the treaty killing of pre-Karma

Well said Moldavi.

Does GO have any other treaties and if so, can they all be nullified now by the other signatories?

Well, I"m not exactly sure as to who attacked first, but since I'm guessing it wasn't TPF that declared war (pretty safe assumption), this would also apply to any MDPs.

Which was the first?

Agreed. There's no reason for the treaty web if people are going to back out when war starts. Even if TPF did all of what they're accused of, their allies should come to their aid. If their allies disagree, then they shouldn't treatied with TPF in the first place.

Everyone in my alliance got so excited about the possibility of NOIR getting pulled into something the last few days, that the fact that this war is happening instead, with a smaller chance of us getting sucked in, is a bit disappointing to tell the truth.

The ants go marching one by one, to war, to war!

Then whenever anyone does try and take a stand though, all their allies desert them and the hegemons send pawns out to crush them.

Once again Moldavi wins. No matter if RIA votes to fight or not, he still comes out as the victor. Also: This obviously isn't an aggressive war if RIA posed the challenge. Plus it's common knowledge that if your allies tell you not to get involved, then you shouldn't. Seriously guys, applause all around. Another one for Moldavi.

I definitely think that TE has helped to pacify Planet Bob. Now instead of raiding or declaring small wars, players are encouraged to go fight over in TE. This then creates a system where everyone is only building up their economies, preventing newer players from getting ahead. I also think it'd be beneficial if we got rid of nukes as a whole. They defeat any actual strategy and encourage funneling all military funds towards MPs instead of strategically putting it into air force, tanks, and army. Spies are pretty much the same except with less impact, everyone just buys tons and hopes not to be spied on. If we actually had to pit militaries against each other, warfare would become a much more intriguing expenditure. It also seems that there hasn't been a truly well done war since possibly as far back as GWIII. Starting with the UJW, it's been largely one side overwhelming and pounding on the other. Without any chance of victory and with treaties being canceled as soon as war starts, much of the respect and strategy has been removed from warfare.

While I'm not going to join, especially at this point, be free to pm me with questions. I remember what it was like to start off on Planet Bob and there were always questions I had. Also, if you're able to get this alliance off the ground, I'd be glad to open diplomatic relations between TCI and your alliance.

o/ CrKr. Stop by TCI sometime.