Sigurd Odinnson

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Well this looks like a fun little s***-show. I'm very pleased with what I've seen in TGECN so far, and I plan on making it a long stay if everyone doesn't mind. So long as I'm a member, there will be plenty of German culture and German history getting injected everywhere, so I don't think this Heinrich fellow (someone want to give me an update on his butthurt?) is worth listening to. Join TGECN! Take it from a founding member of the original TGE - this is certainly looking like the alliance we wanted when we started out so long ago.

The two alliances with the snappiest uniforms had to have [i]some[/i] kind of treaty! o/ Königreich Italien o/ Nordreich

A surprising but welcome treaty! Now Nordreich really has a LEG up o/ NoR o/ LEG

о/ состоянии o/ Nordreich

His Majesty King Sigismund wishes to express disappointment tempered with understanding at England's decision, and hopes that in more peaceful times some economic discourse between our nations might be secured. [quote][b]In the Name of His Royal Majesty Sigismund, King of Friedland[/b] To the Nations of Europa: His Royal Majesty wishes to inform the peoples of Europe who may be experience labour difficulties that due to the small size of Friedland, prisons in our country are dangerously full. The majority of occupants, however, are generally harmless petty criminals or rebellious peasants who need to be reeducated to their place in Friedlandic society. Due to the nature of these healthy, physically able criminals in need of suitable punishment, His Majesty wishes to invite the nations of Europe and companies of Europe in need of inexpensive, readily accessible labour to contact the government of the Kingdom of Friedland to determine the utility of said prisoners for use in foreign lands. His Majesty has instructed the Royal Minister of Trade and Finance, His Grace Hynek Berka z Dubé, Burgrave of Kokorschin, to handle all transactions of this nature with any independent company, and has attached a staff from the Royal Ministry for Foreign Affairs to his office for the purpose of communicating with foreign governments who wish to pursue trade of this nature. The preliminary suggestion of His Majesty is a sum paid either per annum or per head served to the Kingdom of Friedland to pay for the purchase of labour to be exactly determined based on tenure of indenture for each labourer. Signed, in His Royal Majesty's stead, [i]His Highness Karel Gustav Czernin von Chudenitz, Duke of Pilsen[/i] Royal Minister of Foreign Affairs[/quote]

It has come to His Royal Majesty's attention that a dispute has arisen regarding the use of prisoners as labour by the English. His Majesty wishes to inquire with England if the island is suffering a shortage of labour; The Kingdom of Friedland has for some time been hard-pressed to decide a suitable usage for prisoners and rebellious peasantry and were wondering if, in exchange for a pre-determined fee, the government in England would be interested in taking in persons convicted of treason and petty crimes from the Kingdom of Friedland to assist her native labour market. The prisoners themselves would be indentured, and when their term of service should expire they would be repatriated to Friedland where life sentences have not been allotted. We await to hear the response from the English and look forward to conducting business with you.

[quote name='Lennox' timestamp='1286900670' post='2482527'] Nordreich disbanded. [/quote] ooc Nordreich took a break from CN, but Nordreich never stopped existing, and [i]will[/i] never stop existing, regardless of Cybernations. Cybernations has a lot to thank us for in the last four years. Farkistan, for instance, came about because of the NoRway incident. Cybernations received a tremendous boost in publicity when Nordreich won the flag contest on Facebook. Thanks to Nordreich propaganda outside of Planet Bob (yours truly), CN was mass-advertised on college radio. /ooc That said, Four down, 996 to go! (I mean that too. For as long as Planet Bob is in existence, and after it ceases to exist, may Nordreich continue to exist!)

[b][color="#8B0000"][size="4"]Prager Allgemeine Zeitung[/size] [size="3"]The only Friedlandic Newspaper sold in every city in the Kingdom[/size][/color][/b] [b]PAZ Goes International![/b] After some years of isolation in politics in the Kingdom of Friedland on the international level, His Royal Majesty King Sigismund has seen fit to give his blessing and signature to the appeal for charter from the editor-in-chief of the [i]Prager Allgemeine Zeitung[/i], the official German-language newspaper of the city of Prague, to begin sales internationally. EIC Anton von Kleist, whose position at court has been improving since he moved to Prague from the German village of Pilsen near the Friedland border, applied to His Royal Majesty last month for an international edition of the paper, though legally he was free to do on his own accord. He insisted, instead, to obtain royal permit first, out of respect for the King, who is honorary chairman of the [i]Prager Algemeine Zeitung[/i]. The first international edition shall include 16 pages of text and international advertisements sold to advertisers based in London, Madrid, Milan, Brussels, Berlin, and New York City. [read more…]

I'm sorry, I haven't been around because I only just got internet in my new apartment, so I didn't catch this earlier, but the claims posted here on my behalf do not match up with the claims posted in the Copenhagen thread. [quote name='Sigurd Odinnson' timestamp='1284415747' post='2452770'] Wenceslas eyed the maps once more and stood, addressing the Triums. "It is my opinion, and I speak as a proxy for His Majesty the King, that the compensation of Anholt, such a small and economically insignificant island, for the surrender of Zeeland hardly seems balanced. Let the others have their claims, this is fine, but Friedland would consider itself better compensated for the loss of Zeeland with the islands of Gotland, Öland, Fehmarn, the territory of Malmohus in Danish Sweden, and, if the Germans see fit, the territory of Vorpommern heretofore left unclaimed by Friedland, including the port at Stettin; control of trade on the River Oder is more than compensation for control of trade granted by control of Zeeland. I know for certain I speak for His Majesty when I say these lands fall well within the intended claims of our great ancestor during his war in the Baltic. Beyond these meagre claims, Friedland claims nothing and is fully supportive of all claims issued by the Hanseatic movement. We eagerly await the opinions of our friends from Norway and Slavorussia." Final claims of Friedland: [img]http://i941.photobucket.com/albums/ad256/Odinnson_NoR/Friedlandnewclaims.jpg[/img] [/quote] [quote name='Sigurd Odinnson' timestamp='1284578291' post='2454926'] Karel Gustav spoke instead of the prince this time, "Since this is the case, we will be happy to surrender the claim on Malmohus in favour of Zeeland, if the other treating parties find this acceptable." [/quote] [quote name='Kaiser Martens' timestamp='1284593872' post='2455198'] "That we do. Consider it done. But give us a week to make an orderly transfer of course." [/quote] Malmohus is the southern tip of Sweden there. All other claims were agreed upon by Martens. Friedland should have exactly what it shown in the map in this post except Malmohus is exchanged with the island Copenhagen is on. Please adjust accordingly when the opportunity presents itself.

Karel Gustav was pleased with the almost immediate agreement. "It is quite pleasing to my ears to hear that. With that said I believe our business is concluded; you are free to enjoy the hospitality of Prague as long as you like, or depart for your home country immediately--whichever you prefer. I will inform the Hradschin staff that you are no longer needed on official business, and you may direct them to your bidding at your leisure." He paused, "on a more personal note, I'd like to say it's been a real pleasure talking with you; if you are representative at all of your countrymen, I look forward to a close relationship between our two nations."

Karel Gustav spoke instead of the prince this time, "Since this is the case, we will be happy to surrender the claim on Malmohus in favour of Zeeland, if the other treating parties find this acceptable."

[quote name='Kaiser Martens' timestamp='1284339597' post='2451806'] Later, news would be brought in that some type of compromise, although one unfavorable (somehow) to both Finland and the Hanseatics, had been reached. Neither did the Hansa get Zeeland nor did the Finns get their Helsinki. This much displeased the Germanic Triums, but they would remain both respectful and neutral in that matter. Then they look towards the Friedlanders, Norwiegans and Slavorussians, "So Gentlemen. Still making up your minds regarding the Baltic Passage and the Transfer?" [/quote] Wenceslas eyed the maps once more and stood, addressing the Triums. "It is my opinion, and I speak as a proxy for His Majesty the King, that the compensation of Anholt, such a small and economically insignificant island, for the surrender of Zeeland hardly seems balanced. Let the others have their claims, this is fine, but Friedland would consider itself better compensated for the loss of Zeeland with the islands of Gotland, Öland, Fehmarn, the territory of Malmohus in Danish Sweden, and, if the Germans see fit, the territory of Vorpommern heretofore left unclaimed by Friedland, including the port at Stettin; control of trade on the River Oder is more than compensation for control of trade granted by control of Zeeland. I know for certain I speak for His Majesty when I say these lands fall well within the intended claims of our great ancestor during his war in the Baltic. Beyond these meagre claims, Friedland claims nothing and is fully supportive of all claims issued by the Hanseatic movement. We eagerly await the opinions of our friends from Norway and Slavorussia." Final claims of Friedland: [img]http://i941.photobucket.com/albums/ad256/Odinnson_NoR/Friedlandnewclaims.jpg[/img]

His Majesty King Sigismund of Friedland extends formal recognition and friendship to this new state, and invites an ambassador to the Friedlandic capital in Gitschen to discuss the establishment of diplomatic relations between the Kingdom of Burgundaholmr and the Kingdom of Friedland, in remembrance of the respect in which His Majesty's great ancestor Albrecht Wallenstein held the ancestors of His Majesty Friedrich Wilhelm von Hohenzollern, the former Margraves and Electors of Brandenburg.

[quote name='KingChris' timestamp='1283981445' post='2446926'] "A Friendship Pact would be nice. Did you prepare a draft?" [/quote] Absolutely; I have a prepared draft here for your government's review and approval. I am of the understanding that no settlement such as this can be confirmed without the agreement of your congress, so I eagerly await their approval on the matter: [quote][b]The Prague Agreement Friendship and Non-Aggression between Friedland and the United States[/b] Preamble. In the interest of closer relations between the United States of America and the Kingdom of Friedland, and in light of recent conflicts and misunderstandings, this agreement of amity and peace is undertaken. Article I. The Kingdom of Friedland and the United States of America do hereby recognize full sovereignty of each other over their claimed territory and all people, industry, and properties, civil, federal, and ecclesial within said territory. Article II. The Kingdom of Friedland and the United States hereby declare a state of peace and friendship between their nations, and agree, regardless of present standing treaties or future treaties, not to take up arms against the other so long as this treaty remains in force. Article III. This Treaty of Friendship shall be of undefined duration, liable to cancellation, amendment, or abridgement at any point with the expressed agreement of both parties together. Article IV. No actions of either party may be taken up that jeopardise the peace and friendship herein established between them, nor shall the respective parties undertake any form of military action against the other, lest this Treaty be deemed null and void, with all benefits and agreements terminated. In witness whereof we affix our names hereunto in the Sight of God this Thirteenth Day of September in the Year of Our Lord 2010. [b]For the Kingdom of Friedland[/b], His Excellency Karel Gustav, Duke of Pilsen Royal Minister of Foreign Affairs for the Kingdom of Friedland [/quote]

Crown Prince Wenceslas, in his usual subdued—for Friedland, at least— attire, a khaki-coloured, double-breasted tunic, silver epaulets, and white belt, stood to address the gathered nations. “It has been discussed that the Zeeland area fell into the interests of Friedland; as many of you know, long ago before the world was as we know it, my great ancestor Albrecht von Wallenstein made significant gains against the Danish Kingdom; his lands in northern Germany, today the Pomeranian province of the Kingdom of Friedland, were a fraction of his intended acquisitions before his untimely end so many centuries ago. It is for this reason that my father, His Majesty King Sigismund, expressed a desire to see Copenhagen brought into our jurisdiction.” He paused, and looked at the maps, before looking up again, “However, I am not without eyes and ears for the wishes and concerns of Friedland’s European neighbours, whom I consider our friends. As my father has made clear to the European community before, our Kingdom holds self-determination to be the very most important of values for our nations to respect; if Friedland receives the grant of land, the native Danes and Geats of these grants would be guaranteed measured independence within the Kingdom, just as the Germans have been afforded under the Crown of Friedland. No interference with their native ways of life should be disrupted by Friedlandic governance.” He turned and looked to Karel Gustav; who stood as the Crown Prince sat, and said, “As His Highness has expressed, we believe in self-determination. It would, of course, be the responsibility of His Majesty’s Foreign Ministry to determine the relationship of the native Danes and Geats of these proposed cessions before the lands are brought into His Majesty’s jurisdiction.” He turned from the Germans to the rest of the room, “Likewise it is the responsibility of His Majesty’s Foreign Ministry to alleviate any concerns and pressures placed upon these bids by the Kingdom. After all, Friedland is hardly alone in our involvement in this distribution, and likewise we are not alone, I hope, in desiring a fair and peaceful distribution of land that respects the native cultures of the various peoples formerly ruled under the Danish flag.”

Duke Karel Gustav accompanied Crown Prince Wenceslas to Copenhagen. The Prince knew the Duke's dislike of flying well, and so they took a train along the newly acquired Friedland Railway to Stralsund, and travelled by ferry to Copenhagen.

[quote name='KingChris' timestamp='1283720751' post='2442962'] Cornyn was taken aback. "Well, if we have more to discuss, then please share it. I'm welcome to anything you wish to speak about. What exactly do you have in mind?" [/quote] The Duke continued, "Due to the very brief, and, regretfully, somewhat negative nature of the most recent encounter between the United States and Friedland, we in the Kingdom of Friedland would of course understand if the United States is reluctant to pursue closer relations, but at the same time it is my personal wish, and the wish of our King, that the unsavoury nature of our interactions heretofore is remedied. We would very much like to pursue a pact of Friendship and cooperation in which the Kingdom of Friedland assists the United States through cooperation of our respective Intelligence Agencies, but my government would be fully satisfied with a simple Non-Aggression Pact if your government feels such a Friendship Pact is a step too far." OOC: I just moved into a new apartment so my internet has been scarce, expect me to be slow in responses for the next week. Sincerest apologies.

OOC For Reference: http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=90623 Because repeated calls from the Kingdom of Friedland to a peaceful community and cooperation in the Baltic Sea have gone without answer from any power but Denmark, the Kingdom of Friedland is disinclined to engage the Denmark in battle. However, treaty obligations to the government of the Union of Slavic Republics, which has joined itself with the Germanic Union, dictate that the Kingdom of Friedland join in this conflict in support of the USR if and when the USR chooses to contribute military aid to the Germanic Union, with which the Kingdom of Friedland also holds defensive treaty. A message has been sent from His Majesty the King of Friedland to the government of the USR informing them that when they commit military to the present conflict, they will be joined by 4 Korps of the Friedlandic Army, amounting 135,200 men in total, and more if the conflict escalates. These forces will not be an expeditionary force, but rather a deployment of the Friedlandic Army, flying Friedlandic colours and operating within the rules of engagement as laid forth by the Kingdom of Friedland. Surrendering troops shall be given full quarter and returned to prisoner-of-war camps, with full access to full military rations, water, hygiene supplies, as well as mail from their homes and luxuries such as dessert foods, alcoholic beverages, and free access to reading materials as well as films in their native language, provided the proper behaviour of prisoners of war and surrendering soldiers is observed and order is kept by captured officers. This information has been distributed by leaflet and other formats to all citizens of Denmark and all of her known allies.

[quote name='KingChris' timestamp='1283288866' post='2437401'] While the Duke proposed his compromise to Senator Cornyn, Cornyn was able to take a quick glance at his phone and saw that he had a received a text from the President: [code]Delaware and Virginia have capitulated. Please wrap up all discussion at once.[/code] Turning to the Duke, Cornyn replied, "Your Grace, your terms are all very interesting, and I can see that you've put a lot of thought into bringing peace to my country. However, I've just received word that Delaware and Virginia have surrendered to the Federal Government, and as such, there is no need to continue this conversation. Unless you have something else you wish to discuss, I'm afraid I must be going, so I thank you very much for your hospitality. I appreciate all the effort you've taken to make this world a better place. I do hope I will be able to come and visit again some day." [/quote] Duke Karel was taken by sincere surprise by the abrupt change of mind in Delaware; he was under the impression the government of Delaware would perish before capitulating, which is why Friedland stepped in to prevent full-scale war. Nevertheless, if Delaware was conducting its own business with the US, the Kingdom of Friedland had no reason to further intervene. However, his earlier plan to supplement the dealings with the US with a treaty between the United States and Friedland itself. "Well, Mr. Cornyn as you say without an independent of Delaware there is no reason to further discuss the provisions of independence for that state. However, it was still planned to discuss with you, Mr. Cornyn, on behalf of your government, an agreement of friendship and neutrality and possibly, if the United States should see fit, of cooperation in matters of national security in these unstable times."

The War concluded, General Schildhafen returned to Friedland with minimal casualties and a feeling of deep pride, even though their mission would never officially be recognised by the government of Friedland for diplomatic reasons.

[quote name='Sargun' timestamp='1283114673' post='2434938'] I have 105 planes in CN, meaning I will never have any less in RP unless they're destroyed in a war, no matter how low my infra gets. Period. As for the navy, too complicated. I'm not looking up the tonnage of each individual ship I own and multiplying and divying out the % of tonnage my aircraft carrier will get for each ship and all that nonsense. I say get rid of the ridiculous submarine multiplier and put ships back as "what you have is what you get". That's the simplest way to do things and doesn't lead to arguments about people suddenly changing their navies from offensive to defensive or arguments about tonnages or arguments about how their country can support things and blah blah blah. [/quote] I have to admit, the system presently in place makes sense to me - I haven't gotten my head entirely around the submarine thing, but if it's only one cog that's bent, you don't throw out the whole clock, you fix that one cog. This new tonnage thing seems like a lot more math than I was willing to do for my req's in college, let alone in an environment that is supposed to help me relax in grad school. Sure, it's a little more accurate, but there are those of us who would like a navy without having to worry about the particulars: if I attack a submarine with a destroyer, submarine sinks; if I attack a battleship with a submarine, battleship sinks; if I attack a destroyer with a battleship, destroyer sinks. That's the good, old-fashioned, Milton-Bradley mechanics. Like Sargun said, not all of us have the time to make our factbooks the size of IRL encyclopedias. I'm also not terribly hot about the airplane idea. I don't see why above 500 tech should be restricted to late Cold War tech when the rest of the tech tree in CNRP would remain <500 = Cold War, >500 = Modern.

[quote name='KingChris' timestamp='1283210566' post='2436252'] Senator John Cornyn IV was dispatched to Friedland for discussion of a possible solution for the conflict. Upon arrival at Terminal 3 of Prague Ruzyne Airport, he greeted the Duke's assistant and proceeded to follow their directions.[/quote] The car prepared for Senator Cornyn awaited the party outside of the airport. The drive to the Hradschin was pleasant, if brief. Senator Cornyn was then shown to his chambers in the Rožmberk Palace in the Hradschin. It maintained much of the Baroque style when it was converted into a convent by the Empress Maria Theresa, but had been significantly renovated since then to make it more tolerable for male guests. The gold leafing throughout the interior still dominated the other colours. As soon as Senator Cornyn was settled to his quarters, he was informed of the meeting place for the discussions regarding the Delaware situation. Duke Karel awaited the Senator in the Spanish Hall. It was bedecked in Friedlandic and US colours, with the Duke seated at the head of an large oaken table. "Your Excellency, Mr. Cornyn, it's a pleasure to make your acquaintance. We have much to discuss regarding these recent, misguided actions by the state of Delaware." The discussion that followed posed a number of suggestions for the solution to the Delaware question. Finally, the proposals of the Friedlandic government on behalf of the government of Delaware were collected and listed for the American: [list][*]The seceding states of Virginia and Delaware be merged into a single entity. [*]The government of the new entity will be allowed full sovereignty over interior issues [*]The new entity would be given recognition as a partially sovereign state, but subject to the American government as a territory [*]The entity would have the ability to protest and nullify laws that affect its sovereignty, even those issued by the United States Congress [*]The entity would remain subject to the United States and therefore unable to treat with foreign powers or mint coinage. [/list] Duke Karel awaited Mr. Cornyn's response and assumed compromise.

It is the opinion of the Kingdom of Friedland that sovereign states have a greater right to exist than Colonial Empires; as such, colonialism by Europeans, while it has taken place and now has changed the cultural make-up of many lands, cannot but be excused if colonialisation of Europe is allowed to take place. Just as the Kingdom of Friedland asserted its sovereignty and independence from two greater entities, the people of England and Portugal should be allowed their own state, not absorbed into foreign Empires. Nor can it be denied that the people of Europe have strong shared culture and shared history. Therefore, the conquest of Europeans by Europeans, though Empire building is not, in the eyes of the Kingdom of Friedland, appropriate, is far better than the conquest of foreigners by Europeans or the conquest of Europeans by foreigners. In short, in the cases of unorganised territories such as England and Portugal, four options exist from 'most desirable' to 'least desirable': most desirable is that the nobility of these lands should take responsibility for the peasants and lesser nobles and form a government which, in accordance with the Social Contract as suggested by Thomas Hobbes, exists for the protection of its citizens. Next to this, it is more desirable that the unorganised territories remain as they are unorganised protectorates of other European nations. Less desirable than this is that European nations presently constituted and sovereign should invade and conquer these territories, annexing them to their own Empires. Least desirable, however, and something that should be resisted by every sovereign state in Europe, is the foreign conquest and colonisation of European sovereign peoples by non-European powers. For the sake of Europe's history, her Tradition, and her people, they should be ruled only by their own, not by foreigners. This is the official opinion of His Majesty King Sigismund I.

[quote name='KingChris' timestamp='1283140135' post='2435406'] [code]Sir Karel Gustav Czernin von Chudenitz, We will send a representative to your nation at once. James Johnson President and Commander in Chief of the United States of America[/code] [/quote] Terminal 3 of the Central Airport of Prague had been closed off for reception of the foreign dignitaries from the United States. Adolf Eisenhauer, assistant to Duke Karel Gustav, awaited the arrival of the unnamed American representative. He was to offer him an extremely warm reception; the US representative would be put up in the Hradschin itself, the Palace of Prague, in a segment that had been specially designated for ambassadors with special relations to the Kingdom of Friedland. The focus of the talks was to be the handling of the Delaware question in such a way that His Majesty the King could keep his word to the sovereign of Delaware and still keep peace with the United States. Duke Karel Gustav would meet the American delegation armed with a copy of the US Constitution and proposals for devolution and recognition from the United States of Delaware's right as a sovereign state in Federal Union with the other sovereign states to nullify certain laws, the categories of which should be determined in committee between representatives from Delaware and the other several states assembled. He further wished to discuss the possibility of Delaware joining with the Commonwealth of Virginia in accordance with Article IV, Section 3 of the US Constitution allowing states to join together into new states so long as both state legislatures agree and Congress grants it. He hoped that Delaware would be willing to give enough ground to make the negotiations work.