Sigurd Odinnson

I can't believe I only just noticed the NoR Motörhead reference. EPIC WIN for Nordreich. EPIC FAIL for me. We're the most hardcore alliance. If we move next-door to you, your lawn will die.

Here's a bump for my old friends. One Reich to the other!

I have to echo what you're saying, but probably for different reasons. Ever since NPO ZI'ed my first nation (in February), I've known I couldn't play this game as long as they were on top. Thanks to Karma I feel free to play again, and to play how I want and associate with who I want. I think the Karma war has done wonderful things for CN, whether you support their dealings with reparations or not, they have given this game a reason to exist which was failing during NPO's control of Bob.

As somebody on the outside, who was driven away from CN because of NPO, I personally think they ought to be wiped off the map of Planet Bob entirely. But that's pretty unreasonable, as I think any one here will agree. I'd like to begin by saying while I have found my place in Nordreich, nothing I have to say really reflects their viewpoint of the whole thing, and as Kingzog has said "it's not really my affair"-- I am submitting the following as an individual trying to help give a clear view of things in as few words as possible. Frankly, what was the crime that NPO committed? If you can definitively name the crime, in both IC and OOC terms, then you can establish what they ought to pay. War reparations are nothing more than Wergeld-- it's a way around giving them the punishment they really deserve. I think, though, that we need to see less of these "NPO can pay/NPO can't pay/What terms do they really deserve" threads on here and see one straight-forward crime/punishment thread. Even if one thinks everything I say after this point is nonsense, I think one can agree that the easiest way to determine this is outline a clear, distinct, honest list of NPO crimes in order to determine a fair punishment. To begin walking us in that direction I submit to you all that the main crime committed by NPO is making CN unplayable for people whose RP ideology or RP style was intolerable to the NPO specifically. They established a tyranny and through it disrupted game play. For that reason, they don't deserve to be a sanctioned alliance. I don't see any other real crime that they committed, but the one they did commit was pretty big, and I think that being a sanctioned alliance means being an alliance that represents CN to the new-comer, making them feel welcome and making the game seem playable. NPO did this for some, but not only did they not do it for everyone, they stood in the way of universal participation in the game. Beyond pulling their sanction, I don't really see any other punishment that makes sense. The massive reparations, the toying with how many can be at war and how many have to have this tech or that tech seems rather superfluous to me. They have dishonoured themselves, let the world see their dishonour.

Reichsbump

No one has better marches than Nordreich.