[quote name='Dochartaigh' timestamp='1290170762' post='2517332']
come on man it is GOONS. it was even stated something about raids later on. plus, it appears their gov barely talks to one another. i mean CMF here started off implying GCU were rogues, then pulled this out.
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I didn't start this off I was catching up on the facts. As for the raid part I am clearing up the protocol need to LSF to have this come to a manageable end. As for pulling "this" out... would you have me pull something else out? I gave road map to a solution.
[quote name='The Big Bad' timestamp='1290172345' post='2517342']
The entire thing is odd. All I see is GOONS attacking them. And then LSF and this annoucement, says they cleared it with GOONS. GOONS claims they do not know anything about it, then LSF seems to clearly try to protect GOONS from making themselves look like idiots by ending this in public and taking it private. Then you see GOONS continue to claim they have no idea what is going on but, they want it public. Then INT comes in with logs and shows that LFS is indeed correct and it is GOONS that is confused. Maybe GOONS should take some time and talk to each other to figure out what is going on and then share with the rest of us. Since they have made it clear several times they want this open for the public.
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You have some funny assumptions there. GOONS
[quote name='nippy' timestamp='1290172379' post='2517343']
They're not rogues. Let's put that to bed right now. This is simply a case of someone that shouldn't have been in any government anywhere making a decision that basically threw his entire alliance to the wolves.
As for the discussion that took place with Biazt, we haven't heard from him in a while. I haven't seen him on IRC lately, and nothing was posted within our government section. Besides, as a GOONS council member, he doesn't have the credentials to make a decision on behalf of the entire GOONS alliance on his own, and I'm pretty sure he knows this. He stepped down from a high enough position to do this (as did I) due to responsibilities outside of alliance business. Something seems pretty damn fishy here. I may be wrong, but it certainly wouldn't be my first time.
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Well said.
[quote name='Cataduanes' timestamp='1290176763' post='2517370']
Well I can assure you that for our part there is no fishy motive at play, I am happy to discuss the situation with someone with more credentials and resolve the situation in a suitably amicable fashion
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This is what we are looking for. We do not respond well to public declarations telling us how something is to go down. Yes, this is a public matter since it has been declared in a public fashion.
I have no issue with being wrong or having to try and save face. If we are wrong on this we are wrong on this and it will be worked out as Government sees fit. Now, you have three past government officials including myself from GOONS in this thread wondering "What gives?"
[quote]Something seems pretty damn fishy here. I may be wrong, but it certainly wouldn't be my first time.[/quote]
Point for the TL:DR