Incitatus

[quote name='KainIIIC' timestamp='1334775292' post='2955413'] Where's Asgaard? [/quote] See above. This was written in early 2011, they were still around. They would have made at least an honorable mention, if not the high twenties. [quote name='Sandwich Controversy' timestamp='1334779217' post='2955435'] The vast majority don't deserve placements on this list, just getting in because 1) you were in them or 2) they are old [/quote] You're not even trying anymore, which it's hard to blame you in today's world. 1) - The only argument you could give for that is Anathema's and CIS's placement on the list. (although I was in IAA, I think majority of folk would agree with my placement of IAA) So 2/40 =/= Majority. 2) The older alliances that I listed had a large impact on Bob. [quote name='flak attack' timestamp='1334784727' post='2955456'] No Athens? Athens did more in this world than most of that list combined. [/quote] I'll agree with this ^ They would easily be in Top 15. I'll have to revise this when I get home. Again, this was written in early 2011. (The only change was a few positions and the addition of Anathema)

[quote name='Zoomzoomzoom' timestamp='1334758313' post='2955317'] edit: lack of Poison Clan [/quote] This is a good call ^. When I wrote up the original list, I believe Poison Clan was still intact. They most def deserve a Top 20 spot. [quote name='Hero89' timestamp='1334763382' post='2955335'] No iFOK or CMEA .. inclusion of LOUD is nice to see though. [/quote] Same deal with Poison Clan. iFOK at least deserve an honorable mention, no doubt. I didn't put /b/ on there for various reasons. First and foremost, my VE heritage.

[quote name='Crazyman93' timestamp='1334734646' post='2955252'] My only question is why are VE and NoR included, were the first iterations really different enough to consider the ones that formed afterwards a totally different alliance? [/quote] VE is much different now then it was the first go-around. NoR is currently a shell. o/Egore

[quote name='R3nowned' timestamp='1334731416' post='2955237'] All those alliances were more or less on the side that opposed NPO during its heydays. Just sayin' Edit: and I question the position of GGA on that list, but that's just me [/quote] I would argue that NPO's heyday was during The Initiative, and a big chunk of these alliances are from The Initiative. (But like you said, the same chunk would lend a hand at trying to dethrone them) Like them or not (GGA), they were relevant back in the day...even if they were an awful alliance.

In light of the recently reformed NAAC, I present to you a thread that I wish I would have completed last year. The 'Top 25 Disbanded Alliances'. [center][URL=http://img695.imageshack.us/i/oldcouple743330.jpg/][IMG]http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/9508/oldcouple743330.jpg[/IMG][/URL] [i][b][size=5][color="#800080"]The Old Coots' Weekly Letters[/color][/size][/b][/i] (Most of it was written originally in Feb 2011) [/center] Good afternoon my fellow old coots. This issue will be different than my usual OCWL publications. I will be counting down the top 25 disbanded alliances. During our time on Planet Bob, we see alliances come and go. Some alliances make a huge impact on the world with their disbandment notice, others are soon forgotten about after they cease to be. This is an old coots' view on the 25 best alliances that have come and gone since the conception of Planet Bob. I based the rank of the these alliances on their stats, political impact and most importantly, their community. And yes, I'm throwing Anathema in there. $%&@ you all. There is a reason for it. There are leaders of today's alliances and of old (besides the tools sheltered in & around DH) who understand why Anathema was important and what it could have represented...but we'll get to that. Starting at #25, a short summary will be supplied and I will give an explanation on why I feel the alliance deserves the spot I gave them. Every day I will move onto the next alliance to give my explanation as to why they got the ranking they got. (Example: I will explain #24 tomorrow, and #23 on Thursday, etc) Without further ado, let us begin- Honorable Mentions: [b]#26[color="#008000"]Democratic Republic of ArgoNaut(ArGo)[/color] #27[color="#000000"]Nordreich(NoR)[/color] #28[color="#48D1CC"]Atlantic Shadow Confederation(ASC)[/color] #29[color="#000080"]Sons of Liberty in Defiance(SOLID)[/color] #30[color="#FFA500"]League of United Defense(LOUD)[/color] #31[color="#FFFF00"]Golden Sabres(GS)[/color] #32[color="#C0C0C0"]The Galactic Republic(TGR)[/color] #33[color="#000080"]Organization of Imperial Nations(OIN)[/color] #34[color="#FFFF00"]The Corporation(Corp)[/color] #35[color="#48D1CC"]TDSM8[/color] #36[color="#FFC0CB"]Republic of Allied Defenses(RAD)[/color] #37[color="#48D1CC"]Global United Nations(GUN)[/color] #38[color="#000080"]Paragon Ascendancy(PA)[/color] #39[color="#48D1CC"]Zenith[/color] #40[color="#A0522D"]Browncoats[/color] [/b] [b]#25: [center][IMG]http://i51.tinypic.com/ml04so.png[/IMG] [color="#000000"]Obsidian Entente(OE)[/color]/[color="#00FFFF"]Oceanic Entente(OE)[/color][/center][/b] [quote][size="1.5"]In early 2007, the Viridian Entente began construction on what would become a very controversial project. The VE had internally talked about their strained relationship with some of the members of The Initiative, and debated on whether or not to leave WUT. They had had troubles with their allies, this coupled with ambition led to talks about creating a sub-alliance. This sub-alliance would serve as a little brother to the VE, and would be a life-long ally and friend, an alliance they would never had to worry about stabbing them in the back. It was decided that they would establish the colony alliance on the black sphere and was announced to Planet Bob about a month after VE dropped WUT. Shortly afterward, GOONS forced VE to move OE (Obsidian Entente) out of the black sphere. OE ended up moving over to the Aqua sphere and changed its name to 'Oceanic Entente'. This project ended up being a major "cause" of the Green Civil War and the destruction of the Viridian Entente. Not only was this alliance a big role in one of the cruelest/bloodiest alliance genocides in our history, but also is important as it marks only the 2nd time that a sanctioned alliance tried to make a colony alliance. (More recent cases of this is FOK-iFOK/WTF-WTF2)[/size] [size="1"]-written by Kevanovia [/size][/quote] [b]#24: [center][IMG]http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii230/gswitzerland/Flags/250px-DEFlag.png[/IMG] [color="#000000"]Dark Evolution(DE)[/color][/center][/b] [quote]Dark Evolution came to be during the first week of September when 4 alliances on the black sphere came together to be one. Element, Black Defense Council, Legio X, and Obsidian merged to become the Dark Evolution (with several other alliances joining afterwards). Each one of these alliances had between 600k-1.5mil Nation Strength, giving Dark Evolution the #2 spot on the black team behind Sparta. This marked the first time in history that 4 or more alliances above 500k joined together in an attempt to become a world superpower. It also marks one of the biggest failures alliance disappointments in 5+ years of Bob. The Dark Evolution only lasted 10 months on Bob. Besides being used as a body to throw at NEW during Karma, and pumping members into Athens, they contributed little-to-nothing to the world stage. They ceased to exist on July 1st, when they made the announcement that they were merging into Athens. [size="1"]-written by Kevanovia[/size][/quote] [b]#23: [center][IMG]http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii230/gswitzerland/Flags/250px-GOLD_Flag.png[/IMG] [color="#FFFF00"]Global Organization for Liberty and Defense(GOLD)[/color][/center][/b] [quote]The first 'artificially' made super-power on Planet Bob, GOLD. GOLD was comprised of all the major alliances on the yellow team from mid-2006. GDW along with Terminus from Exion, along with others from BoSS merged to create the eventual sanctioned alliance. It was the first time the word "merge" became used in the common CNer vocab. They eventually went on to become deadweight due to inactivity, but you can't help but respect the risk they took to make the behemoth. [size="1"]-written by Kevanovia[/size][/quote] [b]#22:[center][img]http://images.wikia.com/cybernations/images/d/db/AnathemaFlag.png[/img] [color="#000000"]Anathema[/color][/center][/b] [b]#21: [center][IMG]http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii230/gswitzerland/Flags/250px-OV_Flagsvg.png[/IMG] [color="#008000"]Ordo Verde(OV)[/color][/center][/b] [b]#20:[center][IMG]http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii230/gswitzerland/Flags/200px-FnKaFlag010.jpg[/IMG] [color="#FFA500"]Fear none Kill all(FnKa)[/color][/center] [b] #19: [center][IMG]http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii230/gswitzerland/Flags/200px-TOHNewFlagFANCY3dshieldsmall2.png[/IMG] [color="#8B0000"]The Order of Halsa(TOH)[/color][/center] #18: [center][IMG]http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii230/gswitzerland/Flags/250px-ONOSflag.jpg[/IMG] [color="#8B0000"]Organized Nations of Superiority(ONOS)[/color] [/center] #17: [center][IMG]http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii230/gswitzerland/Flags/250px-Nemesis.jpg[/IMG] [color="#000000"]Nemesis[/color][/center] #16:[center][IMG]http://i52.tinypic.com/2ivmz2r.png[/IMG] [color="#008000"]Confederacy of Independent States(CIS)[/color][/center] #15:[center][img]http://images.wikia.com/cybernations/images/f/f3/Flagzu8.png[/img] [color="#FFA500"]Vanguard [/color][/center] #14: [center][IMG]http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii230/gswitzerland/Flags/250px-Cominternsmallpe8.png[/IMG] [color="#FFC0CB"]International Communist Party(ICP)[/color][/center][/b] #13:[center][IMG]http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii230/gswitzerland/Flags/250px-KronosflagNew.jpg[/IMG] [color="#00FFFF"]Kronos[/color][/center] [/b] [b]#12:[center][IMG]http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii230/gswitzerland/Flags/250px-Blackbunchies.jpg[/IMG] [color="#000000"]Gen[m]ay([m]) [/color][/center] [b]#11: [center][IMG]http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii230/gswitzerland/Flags/Custom44_m.png[/IMG] [color="#808080"]\m/[/color][/center][/b] #10:[center][IMG]http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii230/gswitzerland/Flags/250px-Mdcflag.png[/IMG] [color="#8B0000"] Team Allied Guardians Alliance(TAGA)/Maroon Defense Coalition(MDC)[/color][/center] #9:[center][IMG]http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii230/gswitzerland/Flags/250px-CDSflag.jpg[/IMG] [color="#000000"]Coalition of Dark States(CDS)[/color][/center] #8:[center][IMG]http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii230/gswitzerland/Flags/250px-Atlantisflag.png[/IMG] [color="#696969"]Atlantis[/color] [/center] #7:[center][IMG]http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii230/gswitzerland/Flags/250px-Impflagjpeg.jpg[/IMG] [color="#000080"]Imperial Assault Alliance(IAA)[/color][/center] #6:[center][IMG]http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii230/gswitzerland/Flags/200px-VEflag.png[/IMG] [color="#008000"]Viridian Entente(VE)[/color][/center] #5:[center][IMG]http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii230/gswitzerland/Flags/200px-Ggaflag8.png[/IMG] [color="#008000"]Grand Global Alliance(GGA)[/color][/center] #4:[center][IMG]http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii230/gswitzerland/Flags/200px-Goonsflaggx9.jpg[/IMG] [color="#000000"]Goon Order of Neutral Shoving( GOONS )[/color][/center] #3:[center][IMG]http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii230/gswitzerland/Flags/250px-NAACsymbol.jpg[/IMG] [color="#000080"]National Alliance of Arctic Countries(NAAC)[/color][/center] #2:[center][IMG]http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii230/gswitzerland/Flags/200px-Vox7-2.png[/IMG] [color="#FF0000"]Vox Populi(Vox)[/color][/center] #1:[center][IMG]http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii230/gswitzerland/Flags/200px-Lueflag.png[/IMG] [color="#FF8C00"]LUEnited[/color] [color="#FFC0CB"]Nations(LUE)[/color][/center][/b] -Some alliances I will need help writing a summary on, please contact me if you are able to contribute to a summary of one of these alliances. You will get credit for writing these summaries.- I hope you have fun with this issue of OCWL, as I know I'm having a blast with it. Until next time, have a good one. AND STAY OFF MY DAMN LAWN! =Special thanks to FlyingScotsman for saving me all sorts of time by uploading the flags= [u][u][b]OCWL Archive[/b][/u][/u] [url="http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=75704&st=0&p=2024861&#entry2024861"]Issue #1 Written by Kevanovia (Special Guest Chimaera. Guest Writer Vilien)[/url] [url="http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=76099&st=0&p=2034966&#entry2034966"]Issue #2 Written by oddjob (Special Guest Midas)[/url] [url="http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=77970&st=0&p=2094633&#entry2094633"]Issue #3 Written by Kevanovia (Special Guest Proximus. Guest Writter N/A)[/url] [url="http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=88405"]Issue #4 Written by Kevanovia (Special Guest N/A. Guest Writer Vilien)[/url] [url="http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=88779&st=0&p=2365416&#entry2365416"]Issue #5 Written by Kevanovia and Max Cristof (Special Guest Omni.)[/url] EDIT: Do to the time period at which this piece was written, I didn't include some alliances that should be included. Athens, Poison Clan, Asgaard, and iFOK all deserve to be on the list. Athens would have been up at #13, pushing everyone else back. PC would have been #21, pushing everyone else behind them back. Asgaard and iFOK would then be an honorable mention.

And the Skyrim fad ends

[quote name='Melancholy Culkin' timestamp='1334712094' post='2955096'] Good luck, I like the name. [/quote] Likewise. Good theme choice.

Kaskus is pretty awesome

United Green stills stands as the most unified (however brief it was) color-based treaty eva'. CIS-VE-GGA were all as tight as could be for a solid three months. Here's a secret out of the ol' vault- We talked a bit about merging the three alliances under one banner (having each original alliance as a sub-alliance in the new AA). However, it completely fell flat shortly after GWII. Had we gone through with it, no doubt merging would be a very common political move today. (Would have been on the heels of the Exion-BoSS merge that created the infamous GOLD)

ironsoldier was cool

[quote name='WorldConqueror' timestamp='1334450464' post='2953465'] every ally must even up the war score before cancelling a treaty, got it [/quote] That's one thing, but Invicta's case is something entirely different. It seems like their entire existence has been based on massaging NPO's feet. I like Brehon's explanation of 'pushing them out of the nest', but the timing is awful. Regardless, it will be interesting to see what path they take from here. Legion has been a joke since the Valhalla splinter (re-ally with ODN! Good Lord). Europa? They have the same vibe that Andromeda gave out - which is far from a compliment.

CnG going hard in the paint.

[quote name='Sir Sci' timestamp='1334438622' post='2953332'] Next things you know, Pope Hope and Pius are going to come back. I am slightly surprised that the NAAC did not choose LoSS to be the protectors, as LoSS was originally a NAAC protectorate back when they were both on blue. I like this, have fun. [/quote] There's a good reason for that: AirMe.

How has this thread not blown up yet? Was expecting 20+ pages by now.

[quote name='NoMercy' timestamp='1334388553' post='2952929'] Considering what they have swallowed for you, the losing wars (partly with pathetic reasons on your part), the PR hits - "lapdog" etc. that's a pretty retarded reason. [/quote] Oh, hello there. You have summed up this thread nicely.

Beautiful. NAAC's spirit has never died, and it's great to see you guys reform.

aid sent*

I miss Anathema.

[quote name='Jorost' timestamp='1333671023' post='2948813'] If we're still picking worst leaders, are you allowed to nominate yourself? [/quote] You're a little late to the party.

You guys were ollllllllddddd. Best wishes.

A little shocked/miffed to not see Rebirth's name on there. :/

The dragon with the sword is Doch.

Does Kaskus have any other MDP partners? If so, they better declare in their defense. It's what Kaskus would do.

[quote name='Zoomzoomzoom' timestamp='1332546276' post='2942382'] Who is sister midnight [/quote] n00b [img]http://i4.ifrm.com/5982/21/upload/av-2346.jpg[/img] [img]http://i4.ifrm.com/5982/21/upload/av-1815.jpg[/img] [img]http://i4.ifrm.com/5982/21/upload/av-11668.jpg[/img]

[quote name='bros2' timestamp='1331779946' post='2938251'] I'll be sitting in the 6 year CN veteran clubhouse. Lonely. i think there are only a handful of people left from January-March 06 [/quote] *waves