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[quote name='Systemfailure' timestamp='1341406940' post='3003353'] still better then complaining about it while doing nothing [/quote] Oi Stop complaining about the complainer!

[quote name='Sardonic' timestamp='1341122760' post='3001054'] This wasn't necessary, at all. [/quote] I know a quote that is used very often by GOONS and fellow DH members. Can you guess which one I am thinking of?

Kudos to you IRON Your move INT

[quote name='Buds The Man' timestamp='1340212117' post='2990154'] Take a look in the Alliance forums. LOL LSF you poor anarchist. [/quote] Bahaha just as I posted, well done IRON. Space, it's still implied. If I was him I would still be offended by the action.

[quote name='Hereno' timestamp='1340211236' post='2990132'] In a weird way, I almost agree with this. What were you guys expecting to happen when you tried to bully an alliance full of anarchists who had already picked a fight with another alliance more than twice their size? Resisting coercion and such is kind of our MO, and realistically, we've barely any open slots left for you to even take. Instead of attempting to in any way be diplomatic, your alliance gave us short deadlines at gunpoint that screwed with our democratic processes and refused to budge in negotiations even an inch. That you think we'd be totally fine with that, be cooperative and not take any shots at IRON is almost as ridiculous as being so mad about the original incident in the first place. The only reason anyone was in favor of giving you anything apart from an apology (which, if IRON only wanted a private apology from Optimistic would have been a completely reasonable demand to make, as I'm sure he didn't mean to offend anyone and would have gladly given it) was because we were looking out for our allies and didn't want to cause another incident when we already had our hands full. If anyone in IRON is displeased at the outcome of this situation, you've really only yourselves to blame. [/quote] Anarchists with democratic processes? [quote] Jun 18 16:43:51 <&Optimistic[LSF]> I hate you MCRABT[IR0N] Jun 18 16:43:55 <&Optimistic[LSF]> I hope you die. [/quote] Classy After reading what happened, and this topic. I would push that big red button.

[quote name='Skippy' timestamp='1336308259' post='2964445'] Who says he still doesn't pull the strings? [/quote] Get back in the kitchen and make me some waffles.

[quote name='wickedj' timestamp='1335295483' post='2958557'] Can i still raid that dirty furry, Nutkase? [/quote] I have a container for you to unload first.

[quote name='Steve Buscemi' timestamp='1335149395' post='2957558'] The irony is, in NG-Hive's case, you turned down attacks on the raider and instead preferred the cash. You chose diplomacy over attacking him. I wonder if this isn't chest puffing more than a future reality, though that's not mean to provoke you. [/quote] We left the decision up to Yaduck as to which we would accept, he chose the reps over attacking the nation back.

[quote name='Sardonic' timestamp='1335111974' post='2957156'] Now when you say "Grämlins reserves the right to conduct military action without diplomatic intervention.", you do mean military action against the mistaken raider, and not the entire raider's AA right? Because that would just be ridiculous. [/quote] Your assumption is correct, the action will be taken against the offending nation not the AA they reside on. [quote name='d3filed' timestamp='1335113411' post='2957166'] thankyou for this x [/quote] Happy to oblige

[quote name='Biff Webster' timestamp='1335088611' post='2957062'] Ok. So if NG attacks a Hive member and lists it as a "Land Raid" do we go back to the "all possible means are to be attempted to resolve the situation peacefully" portion? The announcement states that attacks on Hive members will be treated as attacks on Grämlins herself, would that bring it under the first part of that article? Don't get me wrong, I do get it, it is just that it looks weird to me and there is nothing else to talk about at this time of night. [/quote] If it feels and smells like a tech raid, I believe we will classify it as just that.

[center][img]http://images.wikia.com/cybernations/images/c/c8/AquaX.jpg[/img][/center] [center]While Grämlins usually do not make announcements for amendments to the Charter, this one takes special cause due to the nature of who it affects. The amendment as follows [quote] Article III – War If any nation of The Grämlins is wrongfully attacked all possible means are to be attempted to resolve the situation peacefully. Should negotiations fail, the alliance shall deploy all its forces to come to the aid of their brother. [i][b]If a nation protected by Grämlins is attacked for the purpose of acquiring tech, Grämlins reserves the right to conduct military action without diplomatic intervention. Approval from all Conclave members is required to implement this policy.[/b][/i] No Grämlin nation shall declare war upon another nation without orders. Any Grämlin nation must follow the orders of the Executor. Declaring war when not ordered to, or not declaring war when ordered to, shall be seen as an infringement of the charter. [/quote] I would also like to announce the following AA is under the protection of The Grämlins and any attack upon them will be seen as a attack upon The Grämlins themselves. "The Hive" "The Grämlins Hive" The Conclave Systemfailure - The Judicator Bob Janova - The Executor Nutkase - The Praetor[/center]

[quote name='Sardonic' timestamp='1334770424' post='2955367'] Please C&G, don't betray PB/DH. Also welcome back to C&G, MK. [/quote] We are agreeing on too many things for my liking

All hail MK Did I do that right?

You're terrible hada hada hada Liz

[quote name='Timberland' timestamp='1334680713' post='2954867'] You love us Nutty [/quote] Forever and ever XOXO

[quote name='Unknown Smurf' timestamp='1334648761' post='2954747'] Yes, someone who was a part of the war has "no leg to stand on while discussing this situation" whereas someone who constantly commentates from the sidelines but rarely, if ever, does anything is a expert on the issue. Never change. I also joined for this war, consider all the facts before you imply cowardice. There was extenuating circumstances regarding my surrender. [/quote] Part of it then ran away when convenient and leaving your allies on the battlefield. Sorry but I don't stand up and be counted whenever you decide so. Many times I have joined a side to fight, if you actually checked my nation you would see that and never have I left the field without the others even if I disagreed with them. I literally hate GOONS, I can't wait to see them burn. Yet I stand against you with Sardonic, so what does that tell you of what I think of you and your petty excuses for surrender.

[quote name='Unknown Smurf' timestamp='1334614638' post='2954471'] As well as multiple threats that you would do so by your membership. And before you state that "members" don't speak for GOONS, realize you've spent most of your time criticizing mongols based on their "members" posts. [/quote] Please shut up, you surrendered while your alliances continues on. You have no leg to stand on when it comes to discussing this situation anymore.

[quote name='Umar ibn Abd al-Aziz' timestamp='1334473955' post='2953671'] Ah, that definitely sounds like the Grämlins I used to know [/quote] Well most of his discussion is idiotic at best as 80% of the people within Grämlins was in Ninja's. His memory is selective at best.

[quote name='WorldConqueror' timestamp='1334454492' post='2953534'] Eh, treaties are a two way street, both parties will likely have something they don't agree with from the other side. Personally, I respect alliances that have the will to follow through on their principles, as opposed to alliances like Gre who spout off at every opportunity yet do nothing material to enforce their views. In the end, what is the point of existing here if you stand for nothing. [/quote] If you knew anything of the last month within Grämlins, your view of us would be different. Tunnel vision is not a very good trait to have.

[quote name='Sardonic' timestamp='1334338361' post='2952297'] My good man, we are only acting in our rational self-interest, pip pip. We ask only for what we deserve from the top of the food chain. [/quote] Did I read that correctly. As in your allies owe you this help?

[quote name='Wishywashy' timestamp='1334338082' post='2952291'] [img]http://i2.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/004/029/disgusted-mother-of-god.png[/img] Kaskus is too powerful. [/quote] Ahaha well done /thread

[quote name='WorldConqueror' timestamp='1334326331' post='2952169'] Ah Gre, full of disapproving words, sadly lacking in action. [/quote] Wow I'm amazed you are alive after that Legion curb stomping.

Sardonic actually said he considered us to be a alliance not rogues at the time Just for clarification.

Got a laugh out of me

[quote name='suryanto tan' timestamp='1334012489' post='2950504'] If you really care for friendship, I suggest you do not cast us as the unreasonable ones who won‘t pay. I genuinely think we can ask for reps as well especially seeing how the war is started. Whether they will approve or not is their decision to make. Your line of thinking that we should just surrender without a real fight do not appeal to us. It may work for sissies but not us. We have yet to fall into their meat grinder range they proudly advertised. [/quote] While I am very much enjoying GOONS trying to solve this headache they created. You are delusional to think you can ask for reps. The victor gets to decide that and while you may be in a better position PR wise, you are not when it comes to the long run of this war.