maxnmike

[quote name='bunnet' timestamp='1311458000' post='2762297'] Looks like peace at update. Black pearl asked we granted. No confirmation from black pearl but attacks will cease at update unless attacked. [/quote] Tsk tsk, tis a pity that WAPA leadership can not seem to actually control their people. I have reports of at least 4 attacks on Black Pearl nations after update. Well done WAPA, well done.

[quote name='supercoolyellow' timestamp='1298232296' post='2639689'] This begs the question, will people care more about what Doitzel says, or more about the fact that Doitzel is back? [/quote] I'm going with option 3. Both

[quote name='Bob Janova' timestamp='1294574882' post='2569667'] I thought the GS war was widely acknowledged to be justified? However, as Felix said, that situation was quite different, with GS government actively supporting a senator who was at war with NPO. And no, we aren't going to attack an alliance for having members who vote for the wrong senator. By the way, Invicta [url=http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=23949]fully supported the GS war[/url]. [/quote] Dear Bob, perhaps you should get your facts straight. Golden Sabres members were asked to vote for Roseblood, the leader of Golden Sabres or Brass from FAN. They were not told to vote for Brass. So I guess you think it is justified to go to war for something you can not prove? No surprise there. As for the sanction, senators can pretty much do whatever they want on their color sphere. If you don't like it, tough luck, don't deal with that sphere.

This is nice. One small note. 112) The Realm Of The Rose Colour: Grey NS: 1.1M; Score: 4.14 Should be Colour: Black

[quote name='Voytek' timestamp='1288392926' post='2496699'] If you thought this insult was ~*~too subtle~*~ to go unnoticed you are sorely mistaken. [/quote] It's not an insult, it's a curse.

I sure am glad my bunker is fully stocked. I think I will be heading down there soon.

It's not about the fact that you raid, it's about the piss poor ways you go about it. But I'm sure you already know that.

[quote name='Bavaricar' timestamp='1283149117' post='2435569'] maxnmike, you're wasting your time trying to reason with with one of these new goons. Their goal here [b][i]is[/i][/b] to be obtuse. It seems also to amuse some in the VE, so whatever. [/quote] I suppose you are correct. I will go find something else to amuse myself with now.

[quote name='CEverettKoop' timestamp='1283147142' post='2435543'] You have no clue how arguments work, do you? I have made a statement, a factually correct one at that. You have come in here with an (incorrect) counter-argument, which you did not back up in any way. I have successfully swept away everything you have brought so far. You have yet to bring anything to the table other than empty words. It is not my duty to present a counter-argument, it's yours. If you can't do so, step aside and let someone else try. Or you could save us all some time and just admit that I'm better than you. [/quote] No, you made an incredibly stupid statement of opinion not a statement of fact. Now I never said you were wrong because as an opinion it can not be wrong. I may not agree with you or your opinion(which I don't)but that doesn't make your opinion wrong. It also doesn't make it fact. Now I could say that GOONS is a worthless alliance but that doesn't make it true, that would just be my opinion and not necessarily true. Just for the record I don't think GOONS is a worthless alliance.

[quote name='CEverettKoop' timestamp='1283146213' post='2435529'] So you have no real counter to my claims other than half-hearted name calling? Good to know. [/quote] Hmm... I didn't call you any names. I said your statement was incredibly stupid and it was. Now when you have a real counter argument please feel free to come back.

[quote name='CEverettKoop' timestamp='1283144807' post='2435515'] It's a little thing called power in numbers. If you don't believe me, observe how anything and everything works. My thoughts and statements are bold and true. Take your own advice and think your own statements through. Maybe you'll make a decent one next time. [/quote] Oh, I know how things work. While your statement was indeed bold it was also incredibly stupid and certainly not well thought out. One can only hope the smarter people in GOONS think otherwise.

[quote name='CEverettKoop' timestamp='1283143040' post='2435481'] Proper defense involves joining alliances and having treaties. Honestly, at least try next time. [/quote] Ah, but that's not defending yourself, that's getting someone to do it for you. So I guess you don't really believe the crap you spew either now do you. If you are going to make such a bold statement perhaps you should think it through first.

[quote name='CEverettKoop' timestamp='1283035550' post='2434256'] Those who cannot defend themselves don't deserve to exist. Plain and simple. [/quote] If you guys feel this way, why do you have any treaties. After all, if you need allies to help defend you you don't deserve to exist. Will you be disbanding now?

Perhaps they think these "wars" are merely battles in a larger war, but I suppose you already know that and are being intentionally dense so that you can continue to argue.

[quote name='Beefspari' timestamp='1282943949' post='2433096'] You're comparing theft to tech raiding? I have news for you: Tech raiding isn't illegal. There are no laws forbidding tech raids that cover the entire planet of Bob. Tech raiding is a perfectly legitimate form of earning tech. GOONS not only has laws allowing raids, but encourages it. We have laws that restrict who and when we can raid, but the act itself is not unlawful. Maybe you and your alliance have laws against it, but YOUR laws don't control what WE do in our alliance. Tech raiding isn't going anywhere, even if you managed to disband GOONS. It's always been, and always will be. But if you think it's your duty to end tech raids, and enforce your will on other alliances, then by all means do something about it. [/quote] Just because it isn't against the rules doesn't mean it isn't theft. They are not giving you their land, tech and money, you are stealing it from them.

[quote name='mythicknight' date='17 July 2010 - 08:24 PM' timestamp='1279427081' post='2376660'] You were openly supporting an alliance at war with TORN and others, and who had used senate sanctions in those wars. While its all ancient history at this point, and it was good enough for me, you pretty much put yourselves up on a platter for us with that scrolling announcement. And no, I don't care if anyone really did vote or not. I consider it a darwin moment. [/quote] Well let us see... you were at war with FAN for god only knows how long and yet you had nations on yellow where they could be sanctioned? How incredibly intelligent of you. Also, thank you for admitting that you don't care if you had a valid CB or not, but of course, we already knew that.

[quote name='bigwoody' date='17 July 2010 - 05:01 PM' timestamp='1279414852' post='2376495'] Strange then that you bring that tangent up, if my opinion doesn't matter. In any case, the picture is pretty clear that Vences didn't smudge out any exculpatory evidence, rather he marked out OOC personally identifying information...pretty standard fare, that. If you still don't understand why that was a CB, my PM inbox is far from full, but it seems quite off-topic here. [/quote] Just because we said they could vote for brass doesn't mean they did and is something that can not be proven either way which is why your CB was crap then and still is. Bye now.

[quote name='bigwoody' date='17 July 2010 - 02:58 PM' timestamp='1279407502' post='2376373'] http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=23941 The imageshack picture has since expired, but I believe you're doing a little history re-writing. Though it doesn't really matter, everyone who saw the forums at the time saw it. [/quote] bigwoddy, I don't know what the image you received said nor do I care. I do however know what the announcement said on our forums. I know because I wrote it and it said to vote for RoseBlood or Brass. In addition if any of you had bothered to check you would have found out that we had 27-28 nations on yellow and that RoseBlood had between 17 - 20 senate votes at the time. I doubt that you will believe me on this but I don't really care. What you think matters not at all to me.

[quote name='King Vences' date='17 July 2010 - 12:20 PM' timestamp='1279397996' post='2376179'] Then, the Golden Sabres War ensued. Someone took a screenshot of the Golden Sabres website. The front page encouraged their members to vote for Brass for the Senate seat. Some of you may remember what the screenshot looked like. I took that shot. Our diplomat from NPO made the discovery and relayed the information to me. [b]I took the shot, marked out a couple things[/b], then passed it on to Bigwoody of TORN. [/quote] So, was one of the things you marked out the part where it said to vote for RoseBlood or Brass? You know, RoseBlood, the leader of Golden Sabres.

[quote name='Bilrow' date='13 June 2010 - 05:14 PM' timestamp='1276478035' post='2336569'] Come one, come all, but be warned; as much as we may try to stop it, a rendition of the Timewarp is pretty much inevitable at some point during the night.[/quote] Ah yes, it's the pelvic thrust that really drives you insane. It truly is.

Something you might not realize is that buyers don't always get all the tech they contract for. Most sellers are new nations that don't have a full understanding of how it all works. They buy too much tech and waste money, they forget, a lot of them just get bored and delete or get deleted. Then you have those few that are outright thieves who have no intention of sending the tech. It can be a huge pain for buyers if they have to nag the seller to send the tech they owe. That is why I don't even bother with tech deals outside of my alliance any longer. I am a lot more tolerant of mistakes or delays from nations within my alliance than those from without.

[quote name='KainIIIC' date='29 May 2010 - 09:55 PM' timestamp='1275198886' post='2316355'] Don't worry, there's plenty of room here for all of Ramirus, Matthew PK, Alter_Ego, ShinRa too.. the whole cocktail. We shall collect all of the Dragonballs! [/quote] Just don't ever let them into government, because damn...

April, I don't know you, we have never talked. Just remember this game is pretty much crap. It's the people you meet that matter. Hang on to your friends and just ignore the haters. They are just not worth the effort.

You know Londo, you and a great many other "leaders" should follow Tulak Hord's lead and retire. Although not for the same reasons.

[quote name='Hymenbreach' date='07 April 2010 - 01:09 AM' timestamp='1270631357' post='2251477'] No doubt we will have to read this twice to check for little 'clever double meanings' like earlier treaties? [/quote] I don't know, it looks like plain enough english to me. However, I suppose that a translator could be found if you prefer a different language.