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[quote name='Unknown Smurf' timestamp='1318004175' post='2819766'] And you guys told us that we weren't the aggressors because even though Tetris did something considered an act of war, we actually declared war. If you wanted our allies so badly, you shouldn't have trolled everything ..it really hurts your chances of seeing the entire picture. Also the 'you' is aimed at all detractors of Legion before you go on tirade again.. [size="1"]OOC: I'm using the smug face where it doesn't fit to piss off NSO since they use it so much [/size] [/quote] I'm like 8 chains away. (really, 3 but whatever). I mainly want the war. I don't care who is right or wrong. Almost every single alliance involved in this is terrible. If it wasn't for RV and the possibility of getting to fire off some nuclear tipped love, I would just hope you all nuke each other until you are selling me tech again. As it is, RV is the single best person involved, and the possibility of Rectum Inversionum possibly being involved on your side means I must firmly root for the lesser of 2 incompetent "war machines".

[quote name='Unknown Smurf' timestamp='1318002485' post='2819734'] How you can you argue that The Legion declared, so they are the offensive side of this conflict, when you are telling our allies to honor [b]defensive[/b] treaties? It just doesn't make sense to me. Considering we've done [url=https://docs.google.com/a/terpmail.umd.edu/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AvhBDJVbPEMSdDJIY1E0U1lwZ2s5NVlXU1pjQ0JBc0E&hl=en_US#gid=0]TWICE[/url] as much damage to them as we have received (NS loss) and our allies have oA treaties, we won't call them in until we need them. [/quote] I don't think I've ever said you were the aggressors or defenders. YOU (Legion) said you were the defensive side. In your DoW. Remember? Until Legion wins something, you don't get to use the smug face. Smug face (and coffee) is for closers.

[quote name='Flonker' timestamp='1317999427' post='2819689'] We're at 9 mil??? COOL!!! We haven't seen 9 mil in ages. Guess that, if true, would mean we're [b]really[/b] kickin *** [/quote] My bad, only 6. Silly me for assuming an alliance with 4 times our membership would have at least double our NS. MY BAD

I didn't vote for you. I thought we were an anarcho-syndicalist commune. Taking turns being the Viceroy for a week

[quote name='Haflinger' timestamp='1317994104' post='2819650'] [url="http://www.cybernations.net/stats_alliance_stats_custom.asp?View=Charts&Alliance=Tetris"]Tetris are in fact getting pounded.[/url] [/quote] THIS JUST IN: A 9ms NS alliance can take a 700K alliance. More at 11. [quote] Where in that list do WarriorConcept and TheBigBad fall? [/quote] Maybe in the Doesn't like Tetris or NSO or NsO or IAA or BTA camp? You should probably ask them. A good chunk of the world dislikes NSO, so it would make sense that at least 1 of them is in that group. Now, is there any truth to the rumor that you guys in Rectum Insertionum piddled yourselves when you found out that Rok was ready and waiting for you? Is that why you are sitting back still? Do I need to see if NPO can resume their hand puppetry of you guys so you can use Brehon's wrist and arm bone to fill in the spot where the spine was?

[quote name='Schattenmann' timestamp='1317994716' post='2819651'] Riddle me this: A malcontent in Olympus sends me screenshots of Olympus' forums, or he sends them to my buddy ChairmanHal and Hal sends them to me, then I post them on the OWF. Are you telling me that Olympus cares whether I am [i]the [/i]spy or not? [/quote] They might blow you up either way, but it doesn't mean you spied. The CB still isn't spying, it's dissemenation of information. Spin it however you want, but continuing to say Tetris spied is both inaccurate and an attempt to use that little buzzword to make what they did worse than what actually occured. You're better than that Schatt. Don't obscure the truth

Spying is a CB Tsk tsk

[quote name='EaTeMuP' timestamp='1317929220' post='2818771'] We are going to sit back and laugh because IAA isn't really a threat to anyone. From the looks of this thread they will disband before the war is over. Even funnier than the infighting is the aid bomb going to a 70k NS IAA nation on day 1 of his single offensive war. [/quote] I will preface this with the disclaimer that this is not a peace mode joke. So if you are doing nothing, just "sitting back and laughing", why is half of your alliance in PM? Either A: You plan to jump in OR B: You are scared one of the dozens of alliances that dislikes you will take this chance to punch you in the mouth. Can I get a cofirmation on one of those? Inquiring minds want to know

[quote name='potato' timestamp='1317923429' post='2818682'] "First they came for NPO and I didn't speak out because I wasn't NPO. Then they came for NpO..." [/quote] Logically, NSO and NsO are next. Probably by BTA and IAA

[quote name='Maverick87' timestamp='1317915929' post='2818560'] Yea. I see that now. I was going by what I saw [url="http://cybernations.wikia.com/wiki/Tetris_%282nd%29"]here[/url] and I definitely didn't read every page of every DoW/DoS to see it had been pointed out. Although the part about enough strength... what about before IAA joined? [/quote] Maybe VE doesn't agree with what Tetris did. Maybe they don't think Tetris needed the help. Maybe they just want to make sure that I don't get to have any fun. I will assume it's the last one, because Goldie sucks. [img]http://i.somethingawful.com/forumsystem/emoticons/emot-colbert.gif[/img]

[quote name='Jtkode' timestamp='1317914140' post='2818520'] Thanks for the insight, I feel better for legion now that IAA cant perform. lol By the way, aggressive treaties being honored, especially odp's say you are a B**** so I'm happy IAA as a whole likes to consider themselves that... [/quote] Interesting. We've fought in 2 of our 3 wars via oA clauses. I see nothing inherently wrong with using them. They are great for hitting those pesky alliances that try and pick and choose who they attack to limit the MDP implications. Had IAA hit Legion when it was 5 larger alliances already pounding them, sure, it could be a wuss move. Reality is, however, that it's now pretty damn even.

[quote name='WarriorConcept' timestamp='1317913209' post='2818502'] Not faulting you for backing your ally, but the argument that this is completely even when one side has access to unlimited aid during a war is a big stretch. [/quote] It's not like TLR and GATO are Umbrella...no offense to those parties. Unlimited seems a might over done

[quote name='William Blake' timestamp='1317912287' post='2818479'] Getting pathetic, guys. I guess Legion isn't as !@#$%* as you all were saying before the war. [/quote] Because it's even sides now? Winning a war with 4 to 1 odds doesn't make you good. Winning a war with even sides would make you ok. All Legion has to do is win now.

MK forced Legion to declare war to get at Polar. I hope you don't really believe this.

[quote name='WarriorConcept' timestamp='1317912057' post='2818473'] Tetris earned themselves a fight with what they did and hardly anyone is disagreeing with the validity of Legion's CB. [/quote] I think the VE-Polar remark was to point out that when VE hit Polar, they brought a bunch of friends, they didn't go 1v1. Why is one alliance bringing friends to unbalance the sides ok, but others doing it to balance the sides is not ok? If they wanted fair and even, they should go 1v1 apparently. Even if one side is roughly 1/8th the size of the other. The bottom line now, the sides are roughly half a million NS apart, 25-30 nations difference and within 200 or so nukes. Most wars don't get any "fairer".

[quote name='potato' timestamp='1317895982' post='2818313'] I still wonder why people think a war should be fair. You fight a war for a principle or to break your enemy. No matter your reason, you want to win it. Not make it interesting for the public. Plus, half the world wanted to take a swing at Legion so I don't see why anyone is shocked that NSO/Tetris and co have allies joining in: it may be 5 vs 1 but the total stats from both sides are pretty even. [/quote] This man gets it.

[quote name='Schattenmann' timestamp='1317877035' post='2817963'] Yes, "spying" is a broad term and it always has been. Passing on spied screenshots is a "spying" CB. The fact of the matter is that the other three idiots which replied to the same post would all declare war on CoJ in 5 minutes if I got screenshots from their forums and posted them. And that is what matters. [/quote] And if your friends loved you, hated the other party, or just thought it was BS, they'd defend you as well. Either way, killing the messenger isn't going to stop the actual spy, it just is a bandaid. Now they need more bandaids, for declaring an ill advised war.

[quote name='Schattenmann' timestamp='1317876693' post='2817928'] In defense of Tetris' spying, which is an aggressive act of war. In everyone's opinion. [/quote] Dissemenating information was the CB. Not spying.

Now sig sized please.

I demand a card.

[quote name='Flonker' timestamp='1317837641' post='2817195'] Most of those anarchies are due to nuclear weaponry. Takes a lotta skill to nuke somebody, don't it? The 35 anarchies Legion inflicted [b]prior[/b] to release of nuclear weaponry is, IMNSFBHO, rather more impressive. [/quote] You are terrible at war. Don't pretend you aren't. Your tech is terrible, your warchests are terrible and you are terrible. Pre-war, I didn't care much who won, but the more I see Legion beating their sunken-in basement dweller chests, the more I want to gather up a couple of my hard pipe hittin' citizens of nigeria and roll up a few of your crudtacular nations.

[quote name='Unknown Smurf' timestamp='1317793249' post='2816823'] Its common knowledge MCXA did (one of) the best on their side of the web during the NPO-DH conflict. [/quote] MCXA lasted 8 days... If that's the best you guys had to offerr...

[quote name='Rotavele' timestamp='1317790074' post='2816741'] Where is SOS Brigade at a time like this? [/quote] I would propose and sign a retroactive Pink Unity treaty if SoS his NsO. That would be too good to pass up.

[quote name='Ernesto Che Guevara' timestamp='1317787383' post='2816640'] Right. Enjoy your ZI. [/quote] Why would he be ZIed for attacking a government admitted ghost?

a leader of an alliance disavowed a rogue and lied about it? Shocking.