Manetheren Posted February 18, 2009 Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 Ultimatum to Dragonisia The Taoiseach stood in the Senate Chamber in Cruachan, literally defying the recent nuclear attacks on Tahoe's cities, daring Tahoe's enemies to attack the capitol. "Today, February 17, 2009 the Tahoe Republic was deliberately attacked by the cowardly forces of Dragonisia. The Tahoe Republic was at peace with that nation, and, along with Tahoe's allies, still looking toward the maintenance of peace in the Pacific. Indeed, even after their missiles fell among innocent civilians, they refused to acknowledge their role in this cowardly and deliberate attack on innocent civilians. And while their government has stated that it seemed useless to continue the existing diplomatic negotiations, it contained no threat or hint of war or of armed attack. Dragonisia has, therefore, undertaken a surprise offensive extending throughout the Pacific area. The facts of yesterday and today speak for themselves. The people of the Tahoe Republic have already formed their opinions and well understand the implications to the very life and safety of our nation. As Commander-in-Chief of the Army and Navy, I have directed that all measures be taken for our defense. But always will our whole nation remember the character of the onslaught against us. No matter how long it may take us to overcome this premeditated invasion, the Tahoan people in their righteous might will win through to absolute victory. I believe that I interpret the will of the Assembly and of the people when I assert that we will not only defend ourselves to the uttermost but will make it very certain that this form of treachery shall never again endanger us. Hostilities exist. There is no blinking at the fact that our people, our territory and our interests are in grave danger. With confidence in our armed forces—with the unbounding determination of our people—we will gain the inevitable triumph—so help us God. I ask that the Congress declare that since the unprovoked and dastardly attack by Dragonisia on Tuesday, February 17th, 2009, a state of war has existed between the Tahoe Republic and the State of Dragonisia. Tahoe has asked for and recieved the assistance of her allies with the enaction of the Columbia Pact, Ferrous Pacific Treaty, Sovereign Initiative, and CSA Treaty. Our allies have offered their support and we shall gratefully accept it. However, in a demonstration of our great mercy, we will offer them the chance to recant and surrender to the forces of the Tahoe Republic before a great suffering and death is brought upon their people." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maelstrom Vortex Posted February 18, 2009 Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 "We have no idea what you're talking about." That is the Dragonisian Official response, "Though if you want to send some folks or plants to our underground shelters to ride out the oncoming winter you're welcome to. We believe we have likely been framed. It wouldn't be surprising in this political climate. Maybe lavo shot them over the South Poles with just this in mind."" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeVentNoir Posted February 18, 2009 Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 (edited) Play the big boy. You are a nuclear wasteland, your allies craters, and I say no. I; LeVentNoir will not allow this senseless violence propagate to my lands and waters. Tahoe shall back down. Or Else. Edited February 18, 2009 by LeVentNoir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manetheren Posted February 18, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 We trust LVN will take action against the terrorists of Dragonisia, then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V The King Posted February 18, 2009 Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 (edited) Play the big boy. You are a nuclear wasteland, your allies craters, and I say no.I; LeVentNoir will not allow this senseless violence propagate to my lands and waters. Tahoe shall back down. Or Else. We are doing well, thank you very much. And while you are condemning senseless violence,you seem to be perfectly fine with your neighbor doing sneak attacks. Eh. Responding to Tahoe's activation of the Columbia Treaty, Viniland recognizes that a state of war exists between the Kingdom and Dragonesia. However, since we believe further loss of lives in the planet, we will firstly resort to peaceful settlement. All that will be asked is for material reparations that Dragonesia's missiles have caused to Tahoe's infrastructure and population. However, if Dragonesia's government keep up a cynical attitude as it has just shown, then we will be compelled to use force. This act of cowardice against a weakened Republic is not being taken lightly by any component of the defending party. Edited February 18, 2009 by V The King Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeVentNoir Posted February 18, 2009 Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 (edited) We trust LVN will take action against the terrorists of Dragonisia, then. Right. Or no. You are in no position to say or trust anything. You shall turn and walk away, tail between you legs. Dragonisia will desist from any more attempt at attacking you, or we shall find out just how hard it is to conquer an underground nation. <snip> We activated our SDI against these attacks, do you think we sit here unknowing of what has occurred? We will not let war come to our area. Not for your dumb, senseless blood lust. Edited February 18, 2009 by LeVentNoir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manetheren Posted February 18, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 They will offer reparations or be destroyed. They will surrender or be destroyed. We are giving them the opportunity to save themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maelstrom Vortex Posted February 18, 2009 Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 "We are not the perpetrators of this strike. This is an attempt a geo-global blackmail of a nation that still has its resources. We will not make reparations as it would set a bad precedent. Those were not our missiles. We are greatly grieved that Tahoe has experienced this loss and hope the true perpetrators can be located. Perhaps you should search the realms of your enemies instead." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerreyRough Posted February 18, 2009 Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 So more meaningless war? You will gain nothing. Your soidlers will die. You may kill an "enemy" that, as far as we know, did not happen. As soon as one infantry man, one bomb, one Tahoe Republic military asset touches Dragonisia, and consider us at war. We do not want any more war, but we must protect our workers and factories in Dragonisia. And an act of war upon us can be a very, very bad thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V The King Posted February 18, 2009 Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 (edited) "We are not the perpetrators of this strike. This is an attempt a geo-global blackmail of a nation that still has its resources. We will not make reparations as it would set a bad precedent. Those were not our missiles. We are greatly grieved that Tahoe has experienced this loss and hope the true perpetrators can be located. Perhaps you should search the realms of your enemies instead." "When the missile was confirmed to belong to your nation through the examination of the remaining of the missiles' materials (which came from Tahoe, heh) and radar information coming from both Vinilandese system located in South and North America plus Tahoe's own ultimately traces the missile back to Dragonesia. Realize this is not a game of poker. Or do you treat your population like coins being gambled away?" "We will re-emphasize that we do not seek further bloodshed, however the Dragonesian government is leaving us very little options other than brute force so far, lying in the front of the global community rather than man up and admit their actions." Edited February 18, 2009 by V The King Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maelstrom Vortex Posted February 18, 2009 Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 (edited) ooc: Tahoe's radar system would have been blind from the nuclear blasts in his country the moment the missiles were inbound and neither of you have radars that can reach over the border and satellite launch detection doesn't work on these missiles. They're only visible during re-entry.. which would have been right after they came over the poles. Everybody screamed and yelled about how terrifying of a first strike weapon they would be, but no one remove dthem.. So please.. they're RAM coated.. and would be incredibly hard to detect. If you don't want to recognize the missiles, that's fine, then the attack never happened. Your choice. 1. No attack, you do not recognize missiles, no damage. 2. Attack successful, you do recognize missiles, damage, missiles untraced as per their design. They were intentionally launched at a time the World's EM detection capabilities would be significantly hindered.. in particular the target and its neighbors.. Edited February 18, 2009 by Maelstrom Vortex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manetheren Posted February 18, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 (edited) "We are not the perpetrators of this strike. This is an attempt a geo-global blackmail of a nation that still has its resources. We will not make reparations as it would set a bad precedent. Those were not our missiles. We are greatly grieved that Tahoe has experienced this loss and hope the true perpetrators can be located. Perhaps you should search the realms of your enemies instead." Playing dumb will get your people killed for no reason. We offer you the chance to repent, yet you spit in our face. Tahoe's radar system would have been blind from the nuclear blasts in his country the moment the missiles were inbound and neither of you have radars that can reach over the border and satellite launch detection doesn't work on these missiles. They're only visible during re-entry.. which would have been right after they came over the poles. Everybody screamed and yelled about how terrifying of a first strike weapon they would be, but no one remove dthem.. So please.. they're RAM coated.. and would be incredibly hard to detect. If you don't want to recognize the missiles, that's fine, then the attack never happened. Your choice. My radar system is not affectable by EMP. Edited February 18, 2009 by Emperor Mudd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maelstrom Vortex Posted February 18, 2009 Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 ooc: That's total BS Mudd, there's no such thing as a radar that cannot be detect by EMP. Radars by design DETECT on the electromagnetic spectrum and are the most susceptible possible target to an EMP/nuclear strike! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerreyRough Posted February 18, 2009 Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 ooc: That's total BS Mudd, there's no such thing as a radar that cannot be detect by EMP. Radars by design DETECT on the electromagnetic spectrum and are the most susceptible possible target to an EMP/nuclear strike! OOC: True fact. IC: Why should they repent what they never did? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeVentNoir Posted February 18, 2009 Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 satellite launch detection doesn't work on these missilesSo please.. they're RAM coated.. OOC: Bold: WTF??? Thats impossible. If it can go into a LEO orbit (even an unstable one like ICBMS) its detectable from space. It is a ROCKET MOTOR, those things are EASY to see with infrared. You can't hide that. Non Bold: Of course, reentry only heats up nosecones to thousands of degrees, nobody would notice a massive IR signal screaming across the sky. (and the ram coating would burn off, why do you think they make the nosecones out of uranium?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maelstrom Vortex Posted February 18, 2009 Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 (edited) OOC:Bold: WTF??? Thats impossible. If it can go into a LEO orbit (even an unstable one like ICBMS) its detectable from space. It is a ROCKET MOTOR, those things are EASY to see with infrared. You can't hide that. Non Bold: Of course, reentry only heats up nosecones to thousands of degrees, nobody would notice a massive IR signal screaming across the sky. (and the ram coating would burn off, why do you think they make the nosecones out of uranium?) ooc: Liquid cool the fins and tail section with super cooled nitrogen. The fins actually jacket the flame. You're right, on re-entry, they would burn off. They become detectable on re-entry. Edited February 18, 2009 by Maelstrom Vortex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tahsir Posted February 18, 2009 Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 What is this? Still have some fireballs to throw in your arsenal so its time to go trolling? Dranagg is very disturbed by these events. Nations as badly damaged as Tahoe should not be seeing world war, again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeVentNoir Posted February 18, 2009 Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 ooc: Liquid cool the fins and tail section with super cooled nitrogen. The fins actually jacket the flame. You're right, on re-entry, they would burn off. They become detectable on re-entry. OOC: Either the nitrogen is added into the rocket plume after the reaction chamber, which is ineffective as the hot plume still exists, or in the reaction chamber, which would give you a cold plume, and also kill your engine (along side with being highly ineffective at cooling). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maelstrom Vortex Posted February 18, 2009 Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 (edited) ooc: Wouldn't effectiveness be determined by how much you were spraying into the stream as it exited? I mean, a sufficient mix of cold and hot air will normalize relatively quickly.. especially if you have an extended fin casing for this process to occur in. Edited February 18, 2009 by Maelstrom Vortex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maelstrom Vortex Posted February 18, 2009 Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 ooc: Not going to repeat myself to much, but just to ensure both these threads are covered where the doubters are.. it's possible. Russia has them. here is proof: They're not detected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel Virginia Posted February 18, 2009 Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 The Republic of Rebel Virginia fully backs Tahoe. We have suspected Dragonisia of attempting to colonize the Americas for some time now. This attack only confirms our suspicions. You will back down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanis777 Posted February 18, 2009 Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 One would think that the nations of North America has a lot more things on their plate then to rattle their sabers at a country that is clearly innocent than say, cleaning up your own country. I would think the nuclear dust is playing with your heads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comrade nikonov Posted February 18, 2009 Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 The Chairman of IndoChina is really glad IndoChina was kicked out of the Leviathan Pact, however as he is in Dragonisia at the moment he feels endangered. As soon as possible he will return to IndoChina to destroy this insurrection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtleknifewielder Posted February 19, 2009 Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 We are doing well, thank you very much. And while you are condemning senseless violence,you seem to be perfectly fine with your neighbor doing sneak attacks. Eh.Responding to Tahoe's activation of the Columbia Treaty, Viniland recognizes that a state of war exists between the Kingdom and Dragonesia. However, since we believe further loss of lives in the planet, we will firstly resort to peaceful settlement. All that will be asked is for material reparations that Dragonesia's missiles have caused to Tahoe's infrastructure and population. However, if Dragonesia's government keep up a cynical attitude as it has just shown, then we will be compelled to use force. This act of cowardice against a weakened Republic is not being taken lightly by any component of the defending party. They will offer reparations or be destroyed. They will surrender or be destroyed. We are giving them the opportunity to save themselves. "When the missile was confirmed to belong to your nation through the examination of the remaining of the missiles' materials (which came from Tahoe, heh) and radar information coming from both Vinilandese system located in South and North America plus Tahoe's own ultimately traces the missile back to Dragonesia. Realize this is not a game of poker. Or do you treat your population like coins being gambled away?" "We will re-emphasize that we do not seek further bloodshed, however the Dragonesian government is leaving us very little options other than brute force so far, lying in the front of the global community rather than man up and admit their actions." Playing dumb will get your people killed for no reason. We offer you the chance to repent, yet you spit in our face.My radar system is not affectable by EMP. Your ridiculous slander of Dragonisia has been noted. Do not attempt to invade any portion of the Australasian region, or you will face the combined might of not only the Australasian Coalition, but of all other powers represented in the region. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaiserMelech Mikhail Posted February 19, 2009 Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 OOC: Just a quick question, where is the thread that started all this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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