UOKMB war with GOONS

[eyriq]

[quote name='steviewonder' timestamp='1283992625' post='2447151']
This isn't about any other alliances though.

This is about GOONS.
[/quote]

This comment embodies exactly what I mean when I mention the irrationality of certain GOONS policy. Sovereignty is the power to create judgments outside of external control; rationality is the ability to create judgments that reflect the environment you are interacting with. Your sovereignty does not guarantee your rationality.

Edited spelling

Edited September 9, 2010 by eyriq

[Augustus Autumn]

So, the hemming and hawwing aside, why is anyone actually objecting to anything going on in this situation? UOKMB got their war and their publicity. The GOONS are doing what they always do, actiing how they please and being supported by their allies in the effort. Is any of the whining going to change anything? Unlikely. One of these days the GOONS will inevitably commit an error much like every other alliance out there at which point they'll have to decide if they want to stick with their old methods or change tactics. This isn't their instance, so expecting any sort of change is a waste of time and effort at best.

But, hey, if you want to rage and whatnot then this is your port of call.

Go UOKMB! Go GOONS! Yeeaaaahhh! [size="1"][i]Damn this combat inhibitor![/i][/size]

Edited September 9, 2010 by Ferrozoica Hive

[mrwuss]

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[eyriq]

Your slander upon Ninjas has been noted.

'nother example of GOONS irrationality

[Boywunda]

[quote name='Beefspari' timestamp='1283924948' post='2446327']
After 2 days of nukes their NSes are dropping a lot and the lower-tier GOONS are swimming around like sharks waiting for a bite.
[/quote]
And a slot opened up (thanks to whoever it was) and I took the bait.

[nippy]

[quote name='eyriq' timestamp='1284000441' post='2447281']
Your slander upon Ninjas has been noted.

'nother example of GOONS irrationality
[/quote]

Haha...pretty sure it was unintentional, but we're also pretty sure you guys aren't wheelchair bound.

e: bad vision and foot corns are debatable.

Edited September 9, 2010 by nippy

[Beefspari]

I'm glad I talked I M Tpl into joining in.

[img]http://meru.xfury.net/images/8nukes.gif[/img]

Those nukes are really disappearing fast.

[thekirbyfake]

[quote name='Beefspari' timestamp='1284017373' post='2447464']
I'm glad I talked I M Tpl into joining in.

[img]http://meru.xfury.net/images/8nukes.gif[/img]

Those nukes are really disappearing fast.
[/quote]
You have no idea how angrily I was pressing that nuke button this morning. I think the n has worn off and it just says uke now.

[Whyohwhy]

[quote name='Beefspari' timestamp='1284017373' post='2447464']
I'm glad I talked I M Tpl into joining in.

[img]http://meru.xfury.net/images/8nukes.gif[/img]

Those nukes are really disappearing fast.
[/quote]

You know at the end of the day you can spout off all you like. It just shows how sad your alliance is when you have to worry about an 8 man alliance

I think the use of sanctions was your lowest point. Its laughable really, you say we are only 8 rogues yet you feel the need to impose sanctions that not only affected us but all the other black teasm members that were in the trade circles

All that to defeat an 8 man alliance

[Locke]

[quote name='Whyohwhy' timestamp='1284022926' post='2447483']
You know at the end of the day you can spout off all you like. It just shows how sad your alliance is when you have to worry about an 8 man alliance

I think the use of sanctions was your lowest point. Its laughable really, you say we are only 8 rogues yet you feel the need to impose sanctions that not only affected us but all the other black teasm members that were in the trade circles

All that to defeat an 8 man alliance
[/quote]
And yet:
[quote name='Whyohwhy' timestamp='1284022926' post='2447483']
All that to [b][u][i]defeat[/i][/u][/b] an 8 man alliance
[/quote]
You can't change that fact.

[Whyohwhy]

[quote name='Locke' timestamp='1284023631' post='2447488']
And yet:

You can't change that fact.
[/quote]

You cant beat deeper pockets and longer game time. But that was always a given. If the goons had gone for a straight fight without resorting to sanctions then they wouldn't have looked so weak.

[Whyohwhy]

[quote name='Whyohwhy' timestamp='1284024935' post='2447495']
You cant beat deeper pockets and longer game time. But that was always a given. If the goons had gone for a straight fight without resorting to sanctions then they wouldn't have looked so weak.
[/quote]

And now BEefspari is gloating because TKF is running out of nukes

The sadness of it all

[Locke]

[quote name='Whyohwhy' timestamp='1284024935' post='2447495']
You cant beat deeper pockets and longer game time. But that was always a given. If the goons had gone for a straight fight without resorting to sanctions then they wouldn't have looked so weak.
[/quote]
You [i]do[/i] realize they would have beaten you into a bloody pulp, sanctions and allies or not, right? No point in paying $25 for a 25c pack of gum.

[Beefspari]

[quote name='Whyohwhy' timestamp='1284022926' post='2447483']
You know at the end of the day you can spout off all you like. It just shows how sad your alliance is when you have to worry about an 8 man alliance
[/quote]
You know, kirby is taking it like a man (he should join GOONS). All you do is whine. I wasn't showing that to brag about beating kirby, it's just pretty cool that he got 7 nuke whiffs in a row (the odds of that happening on any given day are less than 3%).

Man up; you're going to lose no matter what we do. You should at least enjoy it rather than complaining. You're supposed to be going out in a blaze of glory. kirby seems to be having fun at least.

Edited September 9, 2010 by Beefspari

[thewave]

[quote name='dalstrs' timestamp='1283925704' post='2446335']
Everything they do they are inept at. It took them 4 nukes to hit me, there has been 1 GA since they nuked, no CMs, and no aircraft attacks. Also as stated earlier I can't launch any navy attacks on them and my cash reserve has a difference of 4 million from when they attacked me due to all the money I'm stealing. I love this rogue incident!
[/quote]


Good for you sunshine.

Some of you really sound like children, no really, you do.

Did you EVER consider you may, just possibly, be taking this a darn sight more seriously than us?

I mean, my warchest...pathetic...

my nation building..pathetic..I was lazy, I spent REAL money donating, because I was bored.

Did we EVER think we'd roll you over? No, of course not, now stop jumping up and down like a child because <whineykidmodeon> he took four nukes to hit me, ner ner ner ner </whineykidmodeoff>


Anyway, I must mind my mouth, I don't want to get banned again.

Beefy, when's that date?

Edited September 9, 2010 by thewave

[Whyohwhy]

[quote name='Locke' timestamp='1284025181' post='2447498']
You [i]do[/i] realize they would have beaten you into a bloody pulp, sanctions and allies or not, right? No point in paying $25 for a 25c pack of gum.
[/quote]

Maybe, but that only stregthens the argument that they were weak because they used sanctions, which affected more nations than just us.

IF they hadn't used sanctions then it would have been a straight fight, which seems to be something the goons are unable to contemplate

[Whyohwhy]

[quote name='Beefspari' timestamp='1284026342' post='2447503']
You know, kirby is taking it like a man (he should join GOONS). All you do is whine. I wasn't showing that to brag about beating kirby, it's just pretty cool that he got 7 nuke whiffs in a row (the odds of that happening on any given day are less than 3%).

Man up; you're going to lose no matter what we do. You should at least enjoy it rather than complaining. You're supposed to be going out in a blaze of glory. kirby seems to be having fun at least.
[/quote]

You know I' not bothered that I'm going to lose.

That seems to be something you really can't get a grip on.

This is a [b]game[/b], I'm playing it my way and enjoying every single successful Nuke hit.

[mrwuss]

[quote name='thewave' timestamp='1284027939' post='2447507']
Good for you sunshine.

Some of you really sound like children, no really, you do.

Did you EVER consider you may, just possibly, be taking this a darn sight more seriously than us?

I mean, my warchest...pathetic...

my nation building..pathetic..I was lazy, I spent REAL money donating, because I was bored.

Did we EVER think we'd roll you over? No, of course not, now stop jumping up and down like a child because <whineykidmodeon> he took four nukes to hit me, ner ner ner ner </whineykidmodeoff>


Anyway, I must mind my mouth, I don't want to get banned again.

Beefy, when's that date?
[/quote]


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[Whyohwhy]

[quote name='mrwuss' timestamp='1284031539' post='2447527']
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[/quote]

YOu know all about nothingness. You are even too far below me to allow me to spy on you let alone go to war with you

[mrwuss]

[quote name='Whyohwhy' timestamp='1284033875' post='2447544']
YOu know all about nothingness. You are even too far below me to allow me to spy on you let alone go to war with you
[/quote]


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[tanglerat]

Cor, it's good in 'ere, innit?

Note to GOON admin - I'm not feeling the love here at all. None of your smaller nations has yet asked me to war with them when I reach their range. Can you tell them that the first 3 to ask, I'll oblige?

Ta muchly.

[Andre27]

Current GOONS status: 41 Anarchy out of a total of 299 nations.
This small alliance, or group of rogues depending on your point of view, is certainly giving GOONS something to think about.

[nutkase]

[quote name='Andre27' timestamp='1284040390' post='2447613']
Current GOONS status: 41 Anarchy out of a total of 299 nations.
This small alliance, or group of rogues depending on your point of view, is certainly giving GOONS something to think about.
[/quote]

I wouldn't use anarchy as a guide as it only takes 1 nuke in order to achieve it. Rather go by the individual NS loss or the NS loss of GOONS compared to UOKMB.

Edited September 9, 2010 by nutkase

[Raider]

[quote name='thewave' timestamp='1284027939' post='2447507']
Good for you sunshine.

Some of you really sound like children, no really, you do.

Did you EVER consider you may, just possibly, be taking this a darn sight more seriously than us?

I mean, my warchest...pathetic...

my nation building..pathetic..I was lazy, I spent REAL money donating, because I was bored.

Did we EVER think we'd roll you over? No, of course not, now stop jumping up and down like a child because <whineykidmodeon> he took four nukes to hit me, ner ner ner ner </whineykidmodeoff>


Anyway, I must mind my mouth, I don't want to get banned again.

Beefy, when's that date?
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Come on wave don't be like that. You gotta spread the [s]love [/s] destruction out a little better. I mean I know I'm the one you to hit with CMs and Aircraft, but to keep this [s]relationship [/s] war fresh you gotta switch things up every now and then. Hit me with GAs and dalstrs with CMS and Aircraft or maybe if you're feeling real adventurous you can go all the way like you used to in the beginning and give us both everything you got.

[quote name='Andre27' timestamp='1284040390' post='2447613']
Current GOONS status: 41 Anarchy out of a total of 299 nations.
This small alliance, or group of rogues depending on your point of view, is certainly giving GOONS something to think about.
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Except the number the anarchies they've managed is about half that number, but whatever helps you think more lowly of us.

[Andre27]

[quote name='nutkase' timestamp='1284041021' post='2447624']
I wouldn't use anarchy as a guide as it only takes 1 nuke in order to achieve it. Rather go by the individual NS loss or the NS loss of GOONS compared to UOKMB.
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Not really a guide either since the comparatively large numbers of GOONS. 41 out of 299 is 13-14% of the GOONS alliance and that is not even taking into account that GOONS allies have jumped in to help.