In Estuaire...

[Lynneth]

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"Sostra Holdings is currently in the process of setting up operations near the Space Elevator and in the former GDR-owned Madeira.
We have both the funds and the technology to keep the elevator running indefinetely so that the world's nations will not have to worry about it."[/center]

Edited August 2, 2010 by Lynneth

[Centurius]

"Considering both the Space Elevator as Madeira are the sovereign territory of the VDL we do not recognize the claim of this so called Sosta Holdings on either of them"

[Triyun]

Both Madiera and the Space Elevator are the territory of the VDL. We find attempting to hold areas hostage by the rebellion disgusting, and consider the seizing of the Space Elevator as an attempt to weaponize space by expanding the German Civil War to there.

OOC: How did you get past Athen's blockade in the Strait of Gibraltar or my navy's attacks for that matter?

Edited August 2, 2010 by Triyun

[Sargun II]

The Space Elevator and Madeira are both sovereign territory of the VDL and Sostra Holdings has no claims to either of them; this rebel faction is a threat to African stability.

[Lynneth]

"We have never claimed these regions. We are merely setting up some operations in preparation for either going on, or, if the German government takes our current offer, to keep the Elevator running."

[Lavo]

"I'll be blunt and to the point, Sostra Holdings is not welcome in Estuaire, not by Rebel Army and the VDL. Their services are not needed, if the VDL requires any assistance in maintaining and manning the space elevator, Rebel Army will gladly provide it. Sostra Holdings has 24 hours (OOC: RL time) to cease all operations in the area and leave peacefully."

[Kaiser Martens]

We henceforth cease to clain the (Legally ours until this announcement) Southern DMZs (Madeira and the Space elevator territory) and hand it back to the Rebel Army. It is our doctrine that the area is outside of our sphere of influence, so it is reverted to their protectors.

The 1000 Soldiers stationed there are free to join the Rebel Army Garrison, or otherwise leave - we can pay for their departure tickets. They are also invited to return to Germany.

Edited August 3, 2010 by Kaiser Martens

[Lavo]

Rebel Army acknowledges the land transfer by the German government, and now has full ownership over the area. We note however, that there will not be a change in terms of policy (on usage, etc.) of the Space Elevator, and that the area will still remain a DMZ, Rebel Army will maintain a maximum of 2000 soldiers in the area, unless the region is in direct risk of being attacked. As of now, Rebel Army has 1000 troops stationed in the area, 50 on Madeira and 950 in Estuaire.

(IC Edit) As well, the remaining German soldiers are welcome to either join the Estuaire defense forces (henceforth being a part of the 2000 troop garrison in the area) or get free transport to the place of their choosing.

Edited August 3, 2010 by Lavo_2

[Executive Minister]

[i]"We find it puzzling that the United Mechodamian States have not been contacted with regards to this... elevator. Do the said States not bear the required capabilities necessary for the elevator's function and maintenance?"[/i]

[The FSM]

Given that the Space Elevator is located on lands given to the now VDL by Mechodamia, the Sicilian Government cannot recognizes this transfer of sovreignty unless we recieve word that the UMS has been consulted on teh matter and that they are in agreement with the VDL and the RA. While normally we would not make such a statement, it is our feeling that given the extraordinary circumstances surrounding the breakup of the VDL, the UMS should be involved in deciding transfers of control over lands they bequeathed to the GDR.

[Kaiser Martens]

"The fact of the matter is that VDL no longer wants to be involved in that region in any way short of bringing back the 1000 soldiers if they should wish to."

[Lavo]

[quote name='The Flying Scotsman' timestamp='1280812767' post='2399212']
Given that the Space Elevator is located on lands given to the now VDL by Mechodamia, the Sicilian Government cannot recognizes this transfer of sovreignty unless we recieve word that the UMS has been consulted on teh matter and that they are in agreement with the VDL and the RA. While normally we would not make such a statement, it is our feeling that given the extraordinary circumstances surrounding the breakup of the VDL, the UMS should be involved in deciding transfers of control over lands they bequeathed to the GDR.
[/quote]
Actually, it was Rebel Army that gave the land to the GDR. You are thinking of the original transfer, to Canada.

[Lynneth]

[quote name='Lavo_2' timestamp='1280811298' post='2399171']
"I'll be blunt and to the point, Sostra Holdings is not welcome in Estuaire, not by Rebel Army and the VDL. Their services are not needed, if the VDL requires any assistance in maintaining and manning the space elevator, Rebel Army will gladly provide it. Sostra Holdings has 24 hours (OOC: RL time) to cease all operations in the area and leave peacefully."
[/quote]
"Why are we not welcome?
We supported the VDL against the communist rebels."

______________________

Upon hearing that Sostra wasn't welcomed by Rebel Army, a number of maintenance workers and tens of thousands of citizens began to strike, not only people who were supporters of the red revolution or the following counter-revolution.

Edited August 3, 2010 by Lynneth

[Sargun II]

"It is clearly evidenced by these cowardly and despicable strikes that rather than actually work on the Space Elevator the workers and citizens sponsored by Sostra are bent on a political goal."

[Lynneth]

[quote name='Sargun' timestamp='1280822945' post='2399302']
"It is clearly evidenced by these cowardly and despicable strikes that rather than actually work on the Space Elevator the workers and citizens sponsored by Sostra are bent on a political goal."
[/quote]
"We are sponsoring nobody."

[Executive Minister]

[i]"To prevent war from traveling to Africa, we recommend the elevator be dismantled."[/i]

[Centurius]

[quote name='The Flying Scotsman' timestamp='1280812767' post='2399212']
Given that the Space Elevator is located on lands given to the now VDL by Mechodamia, the Sicilian Government cannot recognizes this transfer of sovreignty unless we recieve word that the UMS has been consulted on teh matter and that they are in agreement with the VDL and the RA. While normally we would not make such a statement, it is our feeling that given the extraordinary circumstances surrounding the breakup of the VDL, the UMS should be involved in deciding transfers of control over lands they bequeathed to the GDR.
[/quote]

Actually that is not how events happened, if our history books are correct the original land for the space elevator was granted to then Saboria and later Canada by the Sarnungian Republic, at the fall of Canada the elevator was handed over to Rebel Army in addition to all research the nation of Canada had achieved. Eventually the space elevator was handed over to the GDR which later became the VDL. Nowhere did the UMS have a direct influence in the life cycle of this wonder.


[quote name='Executive Minister' timestamp='1280845451' post='2399465']
[i]"To prevent war from traveling to Africa, we recommend the elevator be dismantled."[/i]
[/quote]

"Coming from Nod we are not amazed you would consider destroying perhaps the most important construction in the modern world"

[king of cochin]

The Kingdom would firmly oppose any attempt to destroy or dismantle the Space Elevator, one of the landmark wonders of our time.

[Executive Minister]

[quote name='Centurius' timestamp='1280846314' post='2399475']
"Coming from Nod we are not amazed you would consider destroying perhaps the most important construction in the modern world"
[/quote]
[i]
"Indeed. Such is the price for peace on this continent. The VDL of the past is no more... the current entity that resides upon its shattered surface- now controlled by the North- seems intent on stifling the Southern peoples, even when it is abundantly clear through rebellion and uprising that they want no part of the Martencist regime. Where the elevator once represented hope, and freedom of humanity... a beacon to all who would hope to reach for the stars now lays a cold monolith, a testament to those that were silenced when the uprisings were put down."[/i]

[Centurius]

[quote name='Executive Minister' timestamp='1280847005' post='2399483']
[i]
"Indeed. Such is the price for peace on this continent. The VDL of the past is no more... the current entity that resides upon its shattered surface- now controlled by the North- seems intent on stifling the Southern peoples, even when it is abundantly clear through rebellion and uprising that they want no part of the Martencist regime. Where the elevator once represented hope, and freedom of humanity... a beacon to all who would hope to reach for the stars now lays a cold monolith, a testament to those that were silenced when the uprisings were put down."[/i]
[/quote]

"Only there is one problem with your logic, neither the GDR nor the VDL constructed the space elevator, they were merely the power guarding it."

[Executive Minister]

[quote name='Centurius' timestamp='1280847553' post='2399490']
"Only there is one problem with your logic, neither the GDR nor the VDL constructed the space elevator, they were merely the power guarding it."
[/quote]

[i]"We are glad you believe this to be the only problem with our logic.

You say that they were merely the power guarding it- that power is now in contest. Again, while there is still contention over who may hold dominion over the elevator, it must be destroyed."[/i]

[Lynneth]

[quote name='Centurius' timestamp='1280847553' post='2399490']
"Only there is one problem with your logic, neither the GDR nor the VDL constructed the space elevator, they were merely the power guarding it."
[/quote]
"However, the GDR was ruled by a Lynneth Sarkara and employed the scientist Fjodor Leclerc, both of whom were rulers of Saboria and Canada, respectively. If anyone has a claim to the elevator, then it's me, Leclerc's legally adopted daughter."
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Edited August 3, 2010 by Lynneth

[Centurius]

[quote name='Executive Minister' timestamp='1280848840' post='2399506']
[i]"We are glad you believe this to be the only problem with our logic.

You say that they were merely the power guarding it- that power is now in contest. Again, while there is still contention over who may hold dominion over the elevator, it must be destroyed."[/i]
[/quote]

"Solving a dispute by destroying the disputed object. Thank you for reminding us why we do not maintain active relations with Nod"

[quote name='Lynneth' timestamp='1280849031' post='2399509']
"However, the GDR was ruled by a Lynneth Sarkara and employed the scientist Fjodor Leclerc, both of whom were rulers of Saboria and Canada, respectively. If anyone has a claim to the elevator, then it's me, Leclerc's legally adopted daughter."
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[/quote]

"And the VDL is the legal successor to the GDR. Your claims are void unless the object was privately owned and maintained by Leclerc."

[Lynneth]

[quote name='Centurius' timestamp='1280854154' post='2399580']
"And the VDL is the legal successor to the GDR. Your claims are void unless the object was privately owned and maintained by Leclerc."
[/quote]
"The unification was not subject to a vote, which would have been required as per the GDR's constitution.
Obama's actions were unconstitutional, but any attempt to sue the government was struck down. The media were censored so that the world didn't even see what was happening - until more hardliner-communists chose to take up arms.
It is thus that the VDL's claims to any of the former GDR's holdings are not legitimate."

Edited August 3, 2010 by Lynneth

[Manetheren]

The Space Elevator was constructed by the German Democratic Republic, not an individual. The VDL is the legal successor state to the GDR and is therefore the legal owner of the Space Elevator.

Your claims cannot be verified as there are no records. The international community recognized the GDR's annexation into the VDL and ultimately the international community is the final arbiter of international law.