Clarification from The Legion

[wandmdave]

[quote name='Methrage' date='12 February 2010 - 01:18 AM' timestamp='1265955507' post='2177082']
I was mostly referring to you guys trying to threaten them with complete destruction over your gov misunderstanding that they hadn't accepted accepted peace and wanted to stick with their allies to the end. Have fun nuking though.
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We heard what LucasSnow said and disagreed so we started the veto process without telling any....

Excuse me I'm confused. What I meant to say was LucasSnow is not gov and so his words carry no weight on the matter. More to the point his intent was not that we are pursuing eternal war, disbandment, or a viceroy, but that peace will take much longer to achieve after having our chains jerked and then being blamed for it. We're really doing Legion a favor. They need a lot of time to come to decisions that will stick.

Edited February 12, 2010 by wandmdave

[unitedblahcentral]

[quote name='Gunnar Griffin' date='12 February 2010 - 04:20 PM' timestamp='1265955611' post='2177085']
What publicity stunt? This thread, where we explicitly clarify our position?
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You are accusing Sparta of forging your signatures. The fact that you place the blame on Sparta is obvious that you wish to look like the victim, and wish for Sparta to look like the aggressor. Even a high school student knows this.

[jacosby]

[quote name='Matthew Conrad' date='12 February 2010 - 12:20 AM' timestamp='1265955637' post='2177086']
Yes, how very terrible of us to not allow Legion rejoin the war. See I know see the problem Karma started was people finding a way to !@#$%* about every little thing whether they actually care or not.

Yes, also please show me where we officially declared we would try and disband Legion. Quite honestly, you have no idea what you're even speaking about. We aren't upset because they won't peace. We're upset because a government member of theirs came up to us apparently lying.
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your sig speaks volumes to the point you are trying to make. Goode show, old bean, good show.

[Matthew Conrad]

[quote name='jacosby' date='12 February 2010 - 01:22 AM' timestamp='1265955771' post='2177096']
your sig speaks volumes to the point you are trying to make. Goode show, old bean, good show.
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You have no idea what my sig actually means. Please try to educate yourself before attempting any further assumptions.

[Gunnar Griffin]

[quote name='unitedblahcentral' date='12 February 2010 - 01:22 AM' timestamp='1265955737' post='2177093']
You are accusing Sparta of forging your signatures. The fact that you place the blame on Sparta is obvious that you wish to look like the victim, and wish for Sparta to look like the aggressor. Even a high school student knows this.
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Can I have some of what you were smoking?

We clarified our position and were trolled by Spartans and their allies. We retaliated. Now let's let this thread die eh?

[pezstar]

[quote name='wandmdave' date='12 February 2010 - 01:22 AM' timestamp='1265955723' post='2177092']
We heard what LucasSnow said and disagreed so we started the veto process without telling any....

Excuse me I'm confused. What I meant to say was LucasSnow is not gov and so his words carry no weight on the matter. More to the point his intent was not that we are pursuing eternal war, disbandment, or a viceroy, but that peace will take much longer to achieve after having our chains jerked and then being blamed for it. We're really doing Legion a favor. They need a lot of time to come to decisions that will stick.
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No. That wasn't his intent. Read more closely. http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=80612&view=findpost&p=2177013

[joracy]

[quote name='jacosby' date='12 February 2010 - 01:21 AM' timestamp='1265955687' post='2177091']
Dilusions? Once again I ask you to point me to a log where Hubb actually accepts your terms please. Your government forged sigs...that isn't a delusion because that happened. Also if you read hubbs post [url="http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=80612&view=findpost&p=2177069"]here[/url] he clearly explains the discrepancy.
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You do realize you government has repeatedly shown an ability to be unable to communicate throughout this incident, and "forged sigs" just days ago?

[unitedblahcentral]

[quote name='Gunnar Griffin' date='12 February 2010 - 04:24 PM' timestamp='1265955892' post='2177100']
Can I have some of what you were smoking?

We clarified our position and were trolled by Spartans and their allies. We retaliated. Now let's let this thread die eh?
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Provide proof please. We arent so inclined as to waste our time with baseless claims. We've seen these before my friend.

[wandmdave]

[quote name='pezstar' date='12 February 2010 - 01:25 AM' timestamp='1265955933' post='2177101']
No. That wasn't his intent. Read more closely. http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=80612&view=findpost&p=2177013
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I read that but thanks for the link.

[Matthew Conrad]

[quote name='pezstar' date='12 February 2010 - 01:25 AM' timestamp='1265955933' post='2177101']
No. That wasn't his intent. Read more closely. [url="http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=80612&view=findpost&p=2177013"]http://forums.cybern...dpost&p=2177013[/url]
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Whatever his intent was, he isn't gov so I have no idea why you're putting so much emphasis on his words.

[LucasSnow]

I also sated I wasn't government and these were my personal opinions. Read back and pay attention.

We're still at war, end of discussion for me, I'm happy to kill more pixels, indefinitely if I must. - again, this is my opinion, stop with the 'spin' please.

[R3nowned]

[quote name='unitedblahcentral' date='12 February 2010 - 04:26 PM' timestamp='1265955976' post='2177105']
Provide proof please. We arent so inclined as to waste our time with baseless claims. We've seen these before my friend.
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Let me clarify it for you.

Legion and Sparta were talking peace terms. It wasn't white peace - it had a term. Yes, it's a little stringent, but oh well

Hubb said what was misinterpreted as acceptance of peace

Sparta came and posted the surrender thread without receiving signatures from Legion's gov.

Sparta forged the signatures okay?

[Joe Izuzu]

[quote name='unitedblahcentral' date='11 February 2010 - 10:08 PM' timestamp='1265954922' post='2177049']
Sparta is an alliance with a clean and healthy history. The government would never dare ruin our reputation through these low means on such a pitiful alliance.
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LOL. Really? "A clean and healthy history"? Revisionism beats historical accuracy, I guess.

[pezstar]

[quote name='wandmdave' date='12 February 2010 - 01:27 AM' timestamp='1265956065' post='2177108']
I read that but thanks for the link.
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So you're saying that you read where lucas said that "Peace will not be offered again." and what you gleaned from it is that "Peace is gonna happen, but it will take a really long time."?

Edited February 12, 2010 by pezstar

[joracy]

[quote name='R3nowned' date='12 February 2010 - 01:28 AM' timestamp='1265956116' post='2177111']
Let me clarify it for you.

Legion and Sparta were talking peace terms. It wasn't white peace - it had a term. Yes, it's a little stringent, but oh well

Hubb said what was misinterpreted as acceptance of peace

Sparta came and posted the surrender thread without receiving signatures from Legion's gov.

Sparta forged the signatures okay?
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You are missing the talks with Imperial, and Legions government inability to communicate. Those are kinda key.

[Gunnar Griffin]

[quote name='Il Impero Romano' date='11 February 2010 - 10:51 PM' timestamp='1265946672' post='2176379']
If you don't like the decision your leader made on his own, this is not the type of situation you get to just "take it back" from. Coup him, re-enter, whatever, but as it stands now your leader signed a peace agreement.
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[quote name='Hyperion321' date='11 February 2010 - 10:51 PM' timestamp='1265946680' post='2176382']
hubb agreed to peace. You waited until he left and then took authority and rescinded the peace without telling us.
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[quote name='Chief Savage Man' date='11 February 2010 - 10:53 PM' timestamp='1265946806' post='2176393']
Legion is the model of decisiveness in this new age.
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[quote name='Matthew Conrad' date='11 February 2010 - 10:53 PM' timestamp='1265946825' post='2176395']
Seriously, I'm tired of dealing with your government's incompetence. This is probably the first time I've seen an alliance of this size act with so much indecision and confusion with something that is so simple.
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That's only the first page. Anyways, I'm done with you.

[quote name='unitedblahcentral' date='12 February 2010 - 01:26 AM' timestamp='1265955976' post='2177105']
Provide proof please. We arent so inclined as to waste our time with baseless claims. We've seen these before my friend.
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[wandmdave]

[quote name='Joe Izuzu' date='12 February 2010 - 01:28 AM' timestamp='1265956132' post='2177112']
LOL. Really? "A clean and healthy history"? Revisionism beats historical accuracy, I guess.
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I suppose NPO would know quite well. You win sir!

[jacosby]

[quote name='Matthew Conrad' date='12 February 2010 - 12:24 AM' timestamp='1265955891' post='2177099']
You have no idea what my sig actually means. Please try to educate yourself before attempting any further assumptions.
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Me=viceroy? The Legion's flag? No I am pretty sure I understand the implications. I am actually sure that a 7th grader would understand the implications. Maybe you are the only one who doesn't understand the implications.

[jacosby]

[quote name='joracy' date='12 February 2010 - 12:30 AM' timestamp='1265956203' post='2177115']
You are missing the talks with Imperial, and Legions government inability to communicate. Those are kinda key.
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Please show us then. please.

[unitedblahcentral]

[quote name='Gunnar Griffin' date='12 February 2010 - 04:30 PM' timestamp='1265956212' post='2177116']
That's only the first page. Anyways, I'm done with you.
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My friend, your inability to link me to any evidence makes me laugh. Admit your defeated, and let me continue pounding Legion please.

[R3nowned]

[quote name='joracy' date='12 February 2010 - 04:30 PM' timestamp='1265956203' post='2177115']
You are missing the talks with Imperial, and Legions government inability to communicate. Those are kinda key.
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Lets be diplomatic and say -both- side's inability to communicate. Sparta never asked for a confirmation for the acceptance of peace to my knowledge. There's obviously more logs not provided to the public though.

[Matthew Conrad]

[quote name='jacosby' date='12 February 2010 - 01:31 AM' timestamp='1265956266' post='2177122']
Me=viceroy? The Legion's flag? No I am pretty sure I understand the implications. I am actually sure that a 7th grader would understand the implications. Maybe you are the only one who doesn't understand the implications.
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No what you don't understand is what happened in #legion. I'm sorry you're not included in an inside joke that happened last night. Ask your superiors, maybe they'll glean some knowledge on you.

[Gunnar Griffin]

[quote name='joracy' date='12 February 2010 - 01:30 AM' timestamp='1265956203' post='2177115']
You are missing the talks with Imperial, and Legions government inability to communicate. Those are kinda key.
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Sparta provided the closes thing to the evidence trying to prove your claim. That evidence was deemed wanting according to a majority of people. You're beating a dead horse; you're misinformed.

[LucasSnow]

To clarify I also meant 'White' Peace will not be offered again. Sorry for the mistype. Through I did state that clearly in a before post, along with the fact that this was all my opinion, and not the official stance of Sparta.

[Trinite]

[quote name='pezstar' date='12 February 2010 - 01:25 AM' timestamp='1265955933' post='2177101']
No. That wasn't his intent. Read more closely. http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=80612&view=findpost&p=2177013
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Well if it makes you feel better, I can assure we will not seek the destruction of Legion. We will also not seek peace with them for awhile. At least until they're really really sure they want it. We wouldn't want another mix up.