Generalissimo Posted December 3, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2009 (edited) The fact that you don't consider yourselves within our sphere of influence is irrelevant, the actual fact is that you are. Procinctia lacks any shared cultural, ethnic, geographical, historical, or religious background with mainland North America. . . by what standard do you measure influence?Liska Atka, acting generalissimo Edited December 3, 2009 by Generalissimo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generalissimo Posted December 3, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2009 (edited) Rhodesia completely understands where Tahoe is coming from. The presence of a communist government, some may argue even a nation of radical left, can be a threat to stability and the established way of life in a nation. If leftist ideals are allowed to permeate into a nation, they can cause unrest and dangerous rebellion. Should they be successful, the leftist economics of the radical wing can devastate and economy and drive a country into a nearly inescapable spot of economic hardship. The stability and the established way of life in Procinctia has been permanently shattered by foreign armies long ago, there’s nothing left for the radical left to destroy. . . Procinctia is incapable of sinking into further decay, communists or not. If you haven’t already noticed Procinctia’s economy is already devastated, already in a hole of inescapable economic hardship. After the war Procinctia had no economy, the capitalists tried their had at fishing which collapsed completely when Tahoe forcibly negotiated fishing rights in Procinctia’s waters. Now that not a single Procinctian makes money, the market economy collapsed completely, replaced by purer barter exchange. Procinctia is a capitalist country without any real capitalism. Procinctia tried it’s hand at capitalism, and it’s continued failure is abundantly clear. The Procinctian Worker's Party continues to thank Tahoe for forever dismantling capitalist exchange and laying the foundation for communism in Procinctia. Nicola Ramirez, Chairwoman of Procinctian Worker's Party Edited December 3, 2009 by Generalissimo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stefano Palmieri Posted December 3, 2009 Report Share Posted December 3, 2009 (edited) This is correct. And though we do not declare every communist an enemy of Tahoe, a direct neighbor that is historically antagonistic towards Tahoe being taken over by communists would be completely unacceptable. "So you can be Communist just not on your turf, which you consider to be North America?" Procinctia lacks any shared cultural, ethnic, geographical, historical, or religious background with mainland North America. . . by what standard do you measure influence?Liska Atka, acting generalissimo "They draw a line and say if its within this its in our SoI. They only draw the line so they don't use the number by how many times their inflated sense of self worth is out by, if they did the whole world would be with in its SoI." - The Same Noted Scholar on a TV show run for College Students Edited December 3, 2009 by Marquis Chris 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nagato the Great Posted December 3, 2009 Report Share Posted December 3, 2009 Tahoe, simply because you are the superpower of North America does not give you a 'sphere of influence' which you get to govern; that is called your territory, and nothing more. Procinctia is a sovereign nation: they can do as they please, and you have no right to consider their country in your sphere of influence. And anyway, what is so terrible about a Communist Nation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generalissimo Posted December 3, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2009 (edited) Private Message to ProcintiaThe Greco Soviet States fully supports the Communist Party of Procinctia and are unabashed to say we are proud of our glorious Communist Nation. Chairwoman and Generalissimo of the Greco-Soviet States, Temulin, wishes to know what we can do to help the united working masses of Procinctia gain their freedom. While we will not make any statements at the moment, Tahoe's declarations of aggression are concerning and the party here within Athens will be discussing the matter considerably. Please keep us informed if the situation changes. Has Procintia heard of the economic strength recently reported within the GDR, which is run by Rational Communists? Given the state of the Procintian economy, such a system might turn things around in the polar north. Speaking of the chairwoman, would you be willing to accept a visit from our leader, Temulin? -------------------- Private Response to Greco Soviet StatesOur Procinctian Worker's Party gladly accepts the solitary of our socialist comrades in the Greco Soviet States. We have heard of the GDR rational communists, but have adopted a platform more derived Canadian models to work within the framework of the current government model. Given the state of the Procintian economy, anything that’s not purely capitalist would be a significant improvement, although I believe a controlled economy is Procintia’s best hope for improvement. I would, of course, be willing to accept a visit from comrade Temulin during the Procinctian Worker's Party election campaign. Nicola Ramirez, Chairwoman of Procinctian Worker's Party Edited December 3, 2009 by Generalissimo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manetheren Posted December 3, 2009 Report Share Posted December 3, 2009 Tahoe, simply because you are the superpower of North America does not give you a 'sphere of influence' which you get to govern; that is called your territory, and nothing more. Procinctia is a sovereign nation: they can do as they please, and you have no right to consider their country in your sphere of influence. And anyway, what is so terrible about a Communist Nation? They can indeed do as they please within their own nation. We are simply warning that a communist government will have extremely drastic effects to reduce the level of cooperation between our two nations as well as set our relations back years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nagato the Great Posted December 3, 2009 Report Share Posted December 3, 2009 I do not see how a Communist government should affect your relations. What makes you think the Communist party will make any worse decisions than the last one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generalissimo Posted December 3, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2009 (edited) I do not see how a Communist government should affect your relations. What makes you think the Communist party will make any worse decisions than the last one? It would seriously impede the normalization of Tahoe-Procinctia relations if a communist party came to power in Procinctia. The security implications of such a regime would cause Tahoe to rethink its policy towards Procinctia. . . . a direct neighbor. . . (of) Tahoe being taken over by communists would be completely unacceptable. . . . And anyway, what is so terrible about a Communist Nation?Why is everyone talking as if those communists have already won an election that will take place an excess of five Generalissimo Scale real-time months in the future? I'll have everyone know that Procinctia’s Technocratic Progress Party is a real contender, because you can’t contend with science ! ! ! Dr. Hugo, Procinctia’s Technocratic Progress Party Edited December 3, 2009 by Generalissimo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tahsir Posted December 3, 2009 Report Share Posted December 3, 2009 It is a strange day to see Tahoe feel threatened by a pinprick of land in the Bering sea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhodesia Posted December 3, 2009 Report Share Posted December 3, 2009 The stability and the established way of life in Procinctia has been permanently shattered by foreign armies long ago, there’s nothing left for the radical left to destroy. . . Procinctia is incapable of sinking into further decay, communists or not. If you haven’t already noticed Procinctia’s economy is already devastated, already in a hole of inescapable economic hardship. After the war Procinctia had no economy, the capitalists tried their had at fishing which collapsed completely when Tahoe forcibly negotiated fishing rights in Procinctia’s waters. Now that not a single Procinctian makes money, the market economy collapsed completely, replaced by purer barter exchange. Procinctia is a capitalist country without any real capitalism. Procinctia tried it’s hand at capitalism, and it’s continued failure is abundantly clear. The Procinctian Worker's Party continues to thank Tahoe for forever dismantling capitalist exchange and laying the foundation for communism in Procinctia. Nicola Ramirez, Chairwoman of Procinctian Worker's Party "I do not speak only of Procinctia, but the surrounding nations as well." -General Rhodes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynneth Posted December 3, 2009 Report Share Posted December 3, 2009 (edited) "A note: The GDR would love to see either the Procinctian Technocratic Progress Party winning the election (because SCIENCE is an important principle of our nation), or a joint-government between them and the Procinctian Worker's Party (reformed). However, we shall not interfere in any way, respecting that Americans can govern themselves quite well." Edited December 3, 2009 by Lynneth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generalissimo Posted December 3, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2009 (edited) Ai Yorishiro, Procinctia Tintagylist Front rally, Savoonga Village (St. Lawrence Island) There was once a voice of reason in an unreasonable world, a single candle of light in a sea of darkness, an advocate of hope in the face of constant despair - Sarah Tintagyl. It was Sarah’s vision and strength, together brought Procinctia out of darkness towards redemption and reconstruction. Without Sarah Tintagyl we would all be hiding in fear, waiting to die forgotten by an uncaring world, living without hope of a future. We at the Procinctia Tintagylist Front believe in Lady Tintagyl, who’s principles are Procinctia’s best prospect for a better tomorrow. We believe in internationalism more than anything else, through international efforts and organizations. We propose an aggressive diplomatic outreach to all the world’s nations, with increased international participation. Procinctia should advocate a more proactive role for international organizations in world affairs. Those same international institutions should also play a greater role in Procinctia itself. Internationally Procinctia’s interest should lay to the southeast with Queendom of Australia, Sarah’s legacy, a sane nation in an increasingly insane world. The communists unintentionally seek to turn us away from internationalism, because communism can only really work internationally when all other countries are communist, otherwise international exchange stagnates when faced with incompatible ideologies. The technocrats believe in advancement without ideology, ideology is more than tangible results, but without believe it isn’t progress at all. If we must have a material objective the reconstruction a foreign ministry is essential to our country’s redevelopment. Sarah believed one girl could change the world, from sharing classes with our acting generalissimo I know it to be true, even I’m a high school student with a political party, with Procinctia’s unique voting age at fifteen our youth have an unparalleled opportunity to control this country’s fate. Sarah’s Will Be Done. [crowd] ! Sarah’s Will Be Done ! [/crowd] [crowd] ! ! Sarah’s Will Be Done ! ! [/crowd] [crowd] ! ! ! Sarah’s Will Be Done ! ! ! [/crowd] [crowd] ! ! ! ! Sarah’s Will Be Done ! ! ! ! [/crowd] Ai Yorishiro, director of Procinctia Tintagylist Front, Savoonga Municipal School Sarah Tintagyl Fanclub president Edited December 3, 2009 by Generalissimo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtleknifewielder Posted December 3, 2009 Report Share Posted December 3, 2009 "It was inevitible that a Tintagylist party would form and begin campaigning in these new elections. All we are wondering is...what took you so long?" ~Al Theodore Frederickson, Talk Show Host Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah Tintagyl Posted December 3, 2009 Report Share Posted December 3, 2009 (edited) TO: Ai Yorishiro, Chairperson of the Procinctia Tintagylist FrontFrom: Sarah Tintagyl, H.G, the Duchess of Brisbane Dear Ai, The world continues to do me more honor than I could have ever deserved in millions of years. I have long since viewed Procinctia as one of the few voices of reason in the world and you are right about this world of chaos. It seems to only become darker by the day, but I believe with your dreams and your ambitions, as well as my own that we can make this world a truly better place for the oppressed and the misrepresented. Have faith in yourself and continue to fight the good fight of democracy, freedom, and multi-culturalism that I have desired all my life and still to this desire push in Australia and across the world. I look forward to your voice joining my own. To offer any help of my own, if time provides I will come to Procinctia myself to lend encouragement, though my duties in Australia may prevent that from happening. If I cannot make good my word, please accept the book attached to this letter, Tintagylism: Philosophy of Peace and Progress. I wish you luck in your election and I wish luck for all of Procinctia. Sincerely Yours Sarah Tintagyl, The Duchess of Brisbane Edited December 3, 2009 by Sarah Tintagyl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nagato the Great Posted December 4, 2009 Report Share Posted December 4, 2009 OOC: heh...i like the Tintagylist leader. IC: Mandalore will likely support the Tintagylist Party in these elections, they seem to know and want what is best for Procinctia. --Private-- "Dear god." General Jacob Borissean wondered to himself. "The lackeys of Tintagyl truly permeate throughout the world. It's only a matter of time before they get to Mandalore...this could be an issue." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biohazard Posted December 4, 2009 Report Share Posted December 4, 2009 It is a strange day to see Tahoe feel threatened by a pinprick of land in the Bering sea. If it's frightened by a pinprick, how scared is it of the huge Asian nations that consist of large landmasses? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otto Verteidiger Posted December 4, 2009 Report Share Posted December 4, 2009 It is a strange day to see Tahoe feel threatened by a pinprick of land in the Bering sea. Small things can turn into big problems if not addressed quickly. Why not extinguish a tiny flame in a forest before it engulfs the entire forest? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mergerberger II Posted December 4, 2009 Report Share Posted December 4, 2009 I fail to see why we are having this debate. Tahoe has threatened no war against Procinctia, they have simply made a statement regarding the Communist Party therein. While we may not agree with this statement, we will not take this opportunity, as numerous small, insignificant states have, to debate Tahoe's ideology and doctrine. Let us instead watch Procinctia's elections take place, recognize the results, and then set our individual policies accordingly, instead of attempting to convince others that their policies are wrong and yours are righteous. There is some wrong and right in all foreign policies, except ours, which is all right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tahsir Posted December 4, 2009 Report Share Posted December 4, 2009 Small things can turn into big problems if not addressed quickly. Why not extinguish a tiny flame in a forest before it engulfs the entire forest? Better to let the flame burn the forest down to begin anew then let it grow stale and overgrown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nagato the Great Posted December 4, 2009 Report Share Posted December 4, 2009 Indeed. Well, as said, Tintagylist Party of Procinctia and its leader may consider itself endorsed and supported by Mandalore. Good luck, may the best party win. --Classified-- All Tintagylists in Mandalore are being monitored closely by agents of the Secret Police. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biohazard Posted December 4, 2009 Report Share Posted December 4, 2009 I fail to see why we are having this debate. Tahoe has threatened no war against Procinctia, they have simply made a statement regarding the Communist Party therein. While we may not agree with this statement, we will not take this opportunity, as numerous small, insignificant states have, to debate Tahoe's ideology and doctrine. Let us instead watch Procinctia's elections take place, recognize the results, and then set our individual policies accordingly, instead of attempting to convince others that their policies are wrong and yours are righteous. There is some wrong and right in all foreign policies, except ours, which is all right. Your foreign policy is only right when it is not wrong. Better to let the flame burn the forest down to begin anew then let it grow stale and overgrown. Perhaps Dranagg should write a philosophical book? The statements that stem from Dranagg are almost endless in infinite wisdom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manetheren Posted December 4, 2009 Report Share Posted December 4, 2009 Better to let the flame burn the forest down to begin anew then let it grow stale and overgrown. These are the types of inane, psuedo-intellectual statements made by Promised Land that, instead of awing foreigners with your philisophical knowledge make young children blush at their stupidity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nagato the Great Posted December 4, 2009 Report Share Posted December 4, 2009 Better to let the flame burn the forest down to begin anew then let it grow stale and overgrown. I don't follow you. And I suspect it's not my fault either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loannes Posted December 4, 2009 Report Share Posted December 4, 2009 **Classified** James II glanced up from a map of the Caucasian civil war and military positions at the news. He rolled his eyes. "Somehow, I preferred it when Generalissimo was Generalissimo." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tahsir Posted December 4, 2009 Report Share Posted December 4, 2009 These are the types of inane, psuedo-intellectual statements made by Promised Land that, instead of awing foreigners with your philisophical knowledge make young children blush at their stupidity. We prefer to wage war against the people that believe we are trying to sway them with words. They can spend all their time believing in their own political positions about nations while we crush them. Dranagg is not built on hippies and love like some nations appear to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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