Elrich von Richt Posted October 31, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2009 The SST has mixed feelings on such a matter. While we do understand the need to move due to political climate, we inquire as to why you would choose Asia. Your nation's population dosen't seem as though it'd be suited to live among the natives of the locations we currently have under protection. Until we have been given a statement that states the locals of the protectorate shall be treated on the same par with your civilians, we shall have to ABSTAIN. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king of cochin Posted October 31, 2009 Report Share Posted October 31, 2009 New Anglica's reputation for destablization, especially in light of the recent events in Australian region would weigh heavily against them. Surely New Anglica can prosper well in the Americas itself. If AUP permitted New Anglica to settle in Asia, it may also cause a rift between AUP and its Australian allies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lutai Posted October 31, 2009 Report Share Posted October 31, 2009 Michuraza votes nay to their move to Asia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angela Spencer Posted October 31, 2009 Report Share Posted October 31, 2009 The SST has mixed feelings on such a matter.While we do understand the need to move due to political climate, we inquire as to why you would choose Asia. Your nation's population dosen't seem as though it'd be suited to live among the natives of the locations we currently have under protection. Until we have been given a statement that states the locals of the protectorate shall be treated on the same par with your civilians, we shall have to ABSTAIN. The Anglicans have cultural relations with both Malaysia and Burma, stemming from the past as members of the British Empire. Also, our population is suited to living in all parts of the world. We also guarante that we shall treat all people within our state the same. Just as there has been no problems dealing with the North Carolinans, we shall be able to coexist with the various ethnic groups of Asia. New Anglica's reputation for destablization, especially in light of the recent events in Australian region would weigh heavily against them. Surely New Anglica can prosper well in the Americas itself. If AUP permitted New Anglica to settle in Asia, it may also cause a rift between AUP and its Australian allies. It is interesting why we are considered a destabilizing force, when we were the ones that risked our lives to take out the genocidal "Tintagylist" cult that nearly murdered everyone in Brisbane. Is there a certain problem with our conduct as peacekeepers? Also, we do not see why our relocating to Asia would cause a rift with Australia, with the possible except of isolationist Hansa. The fact that Promised Land, the most important Australian nation and a member of AUP, does not seem to be against us adds weight to our beliefs. Could Cochin think of other reasons why we should not move? Michuraza votes nay to their move to Asia. We ask why. Is it because your recent attempt to annex Burma has failed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lutai Posted October 31, 2009 Report Share Posted October 31, 2009 " No, because due to past events haveing american nation move into asia would cause problem's with some nations in Asia and we don't want that." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angela Spencer Posted October 31, 2009 Report Share Posted October 31, 2009 " No, because due to past events haveing american nation move into asia would cause problem's with some nations in Asia and we don't want that." The only problem I forsee is Dragonisia being against. But since everyone abandoned the Dragon Empire, clearly showing who is at fault, we do not see a problem with this. Also, we originally moved to America from England. Hence, we are not "complete" Americans but recent immigrants who wish to find a new home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king of cochin Posted October 31, 2009 Report Share Posted October 31, 2009 It is interesting why we are considered a destabilizing force, when we were the ones that risked our lives to take out the genocidal "Tintagylist" cult that nearly murdered everyone in Brisbane. Is there a certain problem with our conduct as peacekeepers?Also, we do not see why our relocating to Asia would cause a rift with Australia, with the possible except of isolationist Hansa. The fact that Promised Land, the most important Australian nation and a member of AUP, does not seem to be against us adds weight to our beliefs. Could Cochin think of other reasons why we should not move? Cochin does not share the New Anglican visions of "genocidal Tintagylists". Cochin has for long been allied to the Hanseatic Commonwealth, indeed a very many of nations in Asia today have been deeply influenced by the Hanseatic Commonwealth. So any nation that is so overtly anti-tintagylist would only caused destablization in the continent. We fail to see how a nation that virtually colonized a nation when in the pretext of giving support it sent soldiers, can be truly called a peace keeper. New Anglica has pivotal role in bringing conflict to the very peaceful and stable Australia. As regards Promised Land, we do not see where they made a categorical statement regarding this matter, and hence there can not be any assumptions regarding their stance regarding your request. Interjecting with regard to New Anglica's reply to the Shinsei Shikkoku Teikoku, may we ask when New Anglica have cultural relations with Malaysia and Burma also we would like a clarification on their history as a part of the British Empire. Would New Anglica be kind enough to clear up these questions as we are not aware of New Anglica's existence prior to their claiming of their present territory in North America. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angela Spencer Posted October 31, 2009 Report Share Posted October 31, 2009 Cochin does not share the New Anglican visions of "genocidal Tintagylists". Cochin has for long been allied to the Hanseatic Commonwealth, indeed a very many of nations in Asia today have been deeply influenced by the Hanseatic Commonwealth. So any nation that is so overtly anti-tintagylist would only caused destablization in the continent.We fail to see how a nation that virtually colonized a nation when in the pretext of giving support it sent soldiers, can be truly called a peace keeper. New Anglica has pivotal role in bringing conflict to the very peaceful and stable Australia. As regards Promised Land, we do not see where they made a categorical statement regarding this matter, and hence there can not be any assumptions regarding their stance regarding your request. Interjecting with regard to New Anglica's reply to the Shinsei Shikkoku Teikoku, may we ask when New Anglica have cultural relations with Malaysia and Burma also we would like a clarification on their history as a part of the British Empire. Would New Anglica be kind enough to clear up these questions as we are not aware of New Anglica's existence prior to their claiming of their present territory in North America. We said "Tintagylist" to mean that they are false believers. There was a reason we added the "" around the world Tintagylist. Although the protectorate seemed to be colonization, they Queensland Government were the ones who approached us with the offer in the first place. Colonization happens when it is forced upon a country, not when it is offered the role of protector. New Anglica was formed when some of the English people decided to leave Scotland to establish an English state. After a voting section between the choices of North Carolina and the Russian Far East (with had been offered by Shinsei Shikkoku Teikoku), we had decided upon North Carolina. However, as time has passed, we realized that it was a mistake, and are now moving to Asia. Since we are English, we have had relations with the former parts of the British Empire, and with the common language of British English, we are sure we can intergrate with Southeast Asia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king of cochin Posted October 31, 2009 Report Share Posted October 31, 2009 We said "Tintagylist" to mean that they are false believers. There was a reason we added the "" around the world Tintagylist.Although the protectorate seemed to be colonization, they Queensland Government were the ones who approached us with the offer in the first place. Colonization happens when it is forced upon a country, not when it is offered the role of protector. New Anglica was formed when some of the English people decided to leave Scotland to establish an English state. After a voting section between the choices of North Carolina and the Russian Far East (with had been offered by Shinsei Shikkoku Teikoku), we had decided upon North Carolina. However, as time has passed, we realized that it was a mistake, and are now moving to Asia. Since we are English, we have had relations with the former parts of the British Empire, and with the common language of British English, we are sure we can intergrate with Southeast Asia. False believers? We do not understand what special belief you are attributing to the followers of the former Lady Protector. Scotland? We are not aware of any history of Scotting presence in South East Asia? And which British Empire are you talking about? Also from what you have only accepted, you are English, so your presence in South East Asia could stoke the anti colonialist mentalities of the local population! Especially since New Anglica is not a refugee of any sort, fleeing from any oppression, we do not see why they must claim a territory so far away from their current territory. If as they said their interest is purely transitory, what hope does AUP have that a New Anglican Government in South East Asia would not be transitory, vanishing when the government feels the need to translocate on a whim! That would obviously not help the cause of Asian stability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angela Spencer Posted October 31, 2009 Report Share Posted October 31, 2009 False believers? We do not understand what special belief you are attributing to the followers of the former Lady Protector.Scotland? We are not aware of any history of Scotting presence in South East Asia? And which British Empire are you talking about? Also from what you have only accepted, you are English, so your presence in South East Asia could stoke the anti colonialist mentalities of the local population! Especially since New Anglica is not a refugee of any sort, fleeing from any oppression, we do not see why they must claim a territory so far away from their current territory. If as they said their interest is purely transitory, what hope does AUP have that a New Anglican Government in South East Asia would not be transitory, vanishing when the government feels the need to translocate on a whim! That would obviously not help the cause of Asian stability. We were talking specifically about the cult that was firing the poison gas missile.s Do you not know your history? (OOC: I believe that CNRP starts sometime in the 2000's, with the 20th century as close to RL). It is not the government that wishes to move, it is the wish of the people. The stuffiness of America is nothing compared to the dynamic movements of Asia, and the people wish to follow the dynamics. OOC: Seriously, I could jsut reroll in Asia. Let's not make this harder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king of cochin Posted October 31, 2009 Report Share Posted October 31, 2009 It is the opinion of the Kingdom of Cochin as an observer to AUP that New Anglica not be permitted to establish in South East Asia. They have not stated any tangible reasons why they should be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Keshav IV Posted October 31, 2009 Report Share Posted October 31, 2009 We were talking specifically about the cult that was firing the poison gas missile.sDo you not know your history? (OOC: I believe that CNRP starts sometime in the 2000's, with the 20th century as close to RL). It is not the government that wishes to move, it is the wish of the people. The stuffiness of America is nothing compared to the dynamic movements of Asia, and the people wish to follow the dynamics. OOC: Seriously, I could jsut reroll in Asia. Let's not make this harder. OOC: Sorry for the OOC, but not to my knowledge, CNRP has no exact start date or year, and the British Empire never existed in CNRP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lutai Posted October 31, 2009 Report Share Posted October 31, 2009 It is the opinion of the Kingdom of Cochin as an observer to AUP that New Anglica not be permitted to establish in South East Asia. They have not stated any tangible reasons why they should be. " Michuraza agree's with cochins opinion and hope that the rest of the AUP thinks the same way". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iKrolm Posted October 31, 2009 Report Share Posted October 31, 2009 Although also an observer, Selenarctos too sees no valid reason for this move. OOC: Sorry for the OOC, but not to my knowledge, CNRP has no exact start date or year, and the British Empire never existed in CNRP. OOC: I think it's up to the RPer when CNRP breaks off the RL time line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biohazard Posted October 31, 2009 Report Share Posted October 31, 2009 Although also an observer, Selenarctos too sees no valid reason for this move.OOC: I think it's up to the RPer when CNRP breaks off the RL time line. OOC: Keshav, you're partially right, and iKrolm, you're also partially right. Everything in history happened, unless it is changed by the person who controls said plot of land. IE, the Roman Empire fell long before it normally did, in Rothenberg's case (one potential thing that could happen, I don't think that he did that though.) Although real-life tends to end somewhere around the early 2000s, and that's when CNRP's Planet Bob history starts up. Pardon the OOC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madame Unicorn Posted October 31, 2009 Report Share Posted October 31, 2009 (edited) OOC; Angela Spencer, your bullying tactics will not work. You have been warned. IC: Annihilation votes NAY to allow New Anglica into Asia. We believe that an American nation with such an.. interesting background should not be allowed into a fragile region of the world. Nice try, but no. Edited October 31, 2009 by Madame Unicorn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtleknifewielder Posted October 31, 2009 Report Share Posted October 31, 2009 OOC: Sorry for the OOC, but not to my knowledge, CNRP has no exact start date or year, and the British Empire never existed in CNRP. OOC: Keshav, you're partially right, and iKrolm, you're also partially right.Everything in history happened, unless it is changed by the person who controls said plot of land. IE, the Roman Empire fell long before it normally did, in Rothenberg's case (one potential thing that could happen, I don't think that he did that though.) Although real-life tends to end somewhere around the early 2000s, and that's when CNRP's Planet Bob history starts up. Pardon the OOC. OOC: Actually, there are multiple RP'ers that RP based onthe British Empire. Even Penchuk and Welsh refer to the British Empire occasionally. IC: "Didn't the British Empire have more connection with the north American Continent than the Asian one? It makes more sense to remain where you are." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comrade nikonov Posted November 1, 2009 Report Share Posted November 1, 2009 The PDC, legal successor to the Southern Tang Empire, is leaving the AUP on friendly terms. It is of our own accord, and we wish each other well in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerahoam Posted November 1, 2009 Report Share Posted November 1, 2009 Kivortistan holds many of the sentiments that other nations have expressed, and find that it would not be wise to have such a nation move to Asia. We will have to vote nay as well. To the Southern Tang, we must just say good luck to your future affairs and know that you will always be welcome back here if you wish to rejoin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amyante Posted November 1, 2009 Report Share Posted November 1, 2009 (edited) "The recent Asian-American conflict between Tahoe and Dragonisia has made moving an American nation onto Asian land, especially land bordering Dragonisia itself, a bit of a delicate matter. We do not question Dragonisia's integrity, but you would be the proverbial red flag to the bull for many citizens, and your presence here would therefore be seen as destabilizing in itself. For these reasons, and taking into account national and international stability, Zargathia has decided voting 'Nay' to be in everyone's best interests, including New Anglica's." "To the PDC, we wish them good luck, and hope that they will decide to rejoin the AUP again one day." Edited November 1, 2009 by Amyante Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtleknifewielder Posted November 1, 2009 Report Share Posted November 1, 2009 (edited) The PDC, legal successor to the Southern Tang Empire, is leaving the AUP on friendly terms. It is of our own accord, and we wish each other well in the future. We are sorry to see you leave, but it is your choice, and we are glad it is on friendly terms. We hope to see you here again someday. Edited November 1, 2009 by Subtleknifewielder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elrich von Richt Posted November 8, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 8, 2009 We are also sad to see the Southern Tang/PDC leave us. May you join us once again when the time is fitting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elrich von Richt Posted November 10, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 10, 2009 OOC: Bumping... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtleknifewielder Posted November 10, 2009 Report Share Posted November 10, 2009 OOC: Any issues we still need to vote on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biohazard Posted November 11, 2009 Report Share Posted November 11, 2009 OOC: Bumping... OOC: Not to come off as hostile, but this is technically a warnable offense. Someone could report you. :\ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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