HHAYD Posted December 28, 2010 Report Share Posted December 28, 2010 [quote name='BaronUberstein' timestamp='1293537288' post='2556147'] What's with the nanotechnology in CNRP as of late? I remember when people laughed at the the word Nano around here. Maybe I'm just tired and confused, but it would be great if the boundaries were cleared up for me. [/quote] About a year ago, there was a new technique for mass producing nanofibers. The link to the article is somewhere in my old GLP factbook. Though I'm not sure if the mass production of nanobatteries and carbon nanotubes can be achieved by 2021. Mass production of grahpene is feasible, but for some reason no manufacturers have coughed up the money to build graphene production facilities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpacingOutMan Posted December 28, 2010 Report Share Posted December 28, 2010 Carbon nanofibers? Yes, that is very doable as they mass produce them as of [b]right now[/b] in multiple industries (sailboat sails, awning sheets, etc.). Carbon nanotubes? No, that isn't possible until way after 2020 (most recent estimates pin it at around 2027) for mass production. Nanobatteries, although still in their infancy, are producible now and will be available for mass production in the coming five years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HHAYD Posted December 28, 2010 Report Share Posted December 28, 2010 Here are two articles on the funding for building a nanobattery production facility: http://www.azonano.com/news.asp?newsID=19895 http://www.azonano.com/news.asp?newsID=9494 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uberstein Posted December 28, 2010 Report Share Posted December 28, 2010 Blargh, the world is moving too fast, everything I design becomes outdated in a week. D: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynneth Posted December 28, 2010 Report Share Posted December 28, 2010 [quote name='BaronUberstein' timestamp='1293568646' post='2556442'] Blargh, the world is moving too fast, everything I design becomes outdated in a week. D: [/quote] On the contrary! It doesn't move fast enough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Kingswell Posted December 28, 2010 Report Share Posted December 28, 2010 Does it really matter that much about ETC weapons. I mean we all know when an actual battle is fought out all it will be is one side saying they lose X number of tanks and the other person says the same and either the fight continues along such a route or one person complains OCC or to a GM? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HHAYD Posted December 28, 2010 Report Share Posted December 28, 2010 [quote name='Kevin Kingswell' timestamp='1293573675' post='2556537'] Does it really matter that much about ETC weapons. I mean we all know when an actual battle is fought out all it will be is one side saying they lose X number of tanks and the other person says the same and either the fight continues along such a route or one person complains OCC or to a GM? [/quote] It's just a way to express our "lolteching". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaiserMelech Mikhail Posted December 28, 2010 Report Share Posted December 28, 2010 [quote name='HHAYD' timestamp='1293573896' post='2556541'] It's just a way to express our "lolteching". [/quote] You just lost all your internet points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HHAYD Posted December 28, 2010 Report Share Posted December 28, 2010 [quote name='KaiserMelech Mikhail' timestamp='1293577330' post='2556584'] You just lost all your internet points. [/quote] For using sarcasm? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaiserMelech Mikhail Posted December 29, 2010 Report Share Posted December 29, 2010 [quote name='HHAYD' timestamp='1293579809' post='2556630'] For using sarcasm? [/quote] For using the phrase lolteching. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpacingOutMan Posted December 29, 2010 Report Share Posted December 29, 2010 (edited) [quote name='KaiserMelech Mikhail' timestamp='1293577330' post='2556584'] You just lost all your internet points. [/quote] Mr. HHAYD, what you have just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul. Your quote reminded me of that Kaiser. Edited December 29, 2010 by SpacingOutMan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HHAYD Posted December 29, 2010 Report Share Posted December 29, 2010 (edited) [quote name='SpacingOutMan' timestamp='1293582921' post='2556696'] Mr. HHAYD, what you have just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul. Your quote reminded me of that Kaiser. [/quote] Um... Megabyte, on Jan 6 2009, 07:03 AM, said: [quote]Sir, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent post were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this forum is now dumber for having read to it. I lock this thread, and may God have mercy on your soul.[/quote] Good job on being original. Really, I'm [i]not[/i] kidding. Edited December 29, 2010 by HHAYD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpacingOutMan Posted December 29, 2010 Report Share Posted December 29, 2010 [quote name='HHAYD' timestamp='1293584457' post='2556725'] Good job on being original. Really, I'm [i]not[/i] kidding. [/quote] You haven't seen Billy Madison, have you. Likewise, I'm not going to derail this further. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iKrolm Posted January 19, 2011 Report Share Posted January 19, 2011 [quote name='King Timmy' timestamp='1295345446' post='2581050'] With the 1000 nmi range of their sonar, it would not take long. [/quote] Hey Timmy, do you have a source on that? I don't think 1000 nm is possible, much less on a submarine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Timmy Posted January 19, 2011 Report Share Posted January 19, 2011 (edited) [quote name='iKrolm' timestamp='1295415110' post='2582892'] Hey Timmy, do you have a source on that? I don't think 1000 nm is possible, much less on a submarine. [/quote] Yea I read it somewhere, i'll try find it again. EDIT: Turns out I was wrong http://www.mod.uk/DefenceInternet/DefenceNews/EquipmentAndLogistics/UksMostPowerfulSubmarineJoinsTheNavy.htm It's 3000nm Gotta love the British for that. Get ready for some lol-ISEEYOU-RP. Edited January 19, 2011 by King Timmy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iKrolm Posted January 20, 2011 Report Share Posted January 20, 2011 Oh, that's even the same submarine I run Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king of cochin Posted January 20, 2011 Report Share Posted January 20, 2011 My Yankee class attack submarine is also based on Astute class, but really 3000 NM? how does that work? Or is it the ability to analyse data from that distance which travels over the thermals etc? Like how sonar gets reflected across various sonographic layers? Is that what it means? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Timmy Posted January 20, 2011 Report Share Posted January 20, 2011 I have no idea how it works, I'm pretty sure they won't be releasing any details of how the most advanced sonar in the world works any time soon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king of cochin Posted January 20, 2011 Report Share Posted January 20, 2011 From my understanding of sonar, submarines can pick up acoustic signals from very far away, much like how whales communicate over long distances. However ability to get signals does not mean ability to locate or engage. Due to the way acoustic signals propagate, it could be at any distance as a variable of the wavelength of the signal (I think). So yes, your sonar systems may have ability to receive signals from that far, but to triangulate you need an active sonar ping or some sort of triangulation system. So I really doubt you would be able to search and destroy it just based on that sonar especially at that range. If you have aerial and satellite assets to coordinate with the sub hunt assisting these subs you would be able to destroy it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynneth Posted January 20, 2011 Report Share Posted January 20, 2011 [quote name='king of cochin' timestamp='1295534381' post='2586310'] From my understanding of sonar, submarines can pick up acoustic signals from very far away, much like how whales communicate over long distances. However ability to get signals does not mean ability to locate or engage. Due to the way acoustic signals propagate, it could be at any distance as a variable of the wavelength of the signal (I think). So yes, your sonar systems may have ability to receive signals from that far, but to triangulate you need an active sonar ping or some sort of triangulation system. So I really doubt you would be able to search and destroy it just based on that sonar especially at that range. If you have aerial and satellite assets to coordinate with the sub hunt assisting these subs you would be able to destroy it. [/quote] Basically, they know "There's [b]someone[/b] [i]somewhere[/i] in that direction", but they've no idea about the distance? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king of cochin Posted January 20, 2011 Report Share Posted January 20, 2011 [quote name='Lynneth' timestamp='1295540933' post='2586504'] Basically, they know "There's [b]someone[/b] [i]somewhere[/i] in that direction", but they've no idea about the distance? [/quote] Precisely. There is no way without triangulation that you can target a sub at such extreme ranges. Active sonar will not give target solutions at such ranges Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Timmy Posted January 21, 2011 Report Share Posted January 21, 2011 Well this is all assumptions, for all we know Thales have found some way to detect speed and direction at 3000nm. It's doubtful that they have, but I can live with "there's something there" at 3000nm. You can't engage other subs from a sub till you're at 65km anyhow with a spearfish torpedo so it doesn't really matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generalissimo Posted January 21, 2011 Report Share Posted January 21, 2011 (edited) I was reading Christian Wolmar’s book [i]Engines of War: How Wars Were Won and Lost on the Railways[/i] and am now wondering how battle trains should be represented in CNRP. Would an armoured train constitute a tank slot? What about railway guns? Would something with the size and guns of a Soviet second world war Hurban Armoured Train count a multiple tanks? [img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/72/12inchRailwayHowitzersMkVCatterick12December1940.jpg[/img] 12-inch Mk V howitzers [img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/98/Pancierovy_vlak-Zvolen.jpg[/img]Hurban Armoured Train Edited January 21, 2011 by Generalissimo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaiserMelech Mikhail Posted January 22, 2011 Report Share Posted January 22, 2011 [quote name='Generalissimo' timestamp='1295641403' post='2589467'] I was reading Christian Wolmar’s book [i]Engines of War: How Wars Were Won and Lost on the Railways[/i] and am now wondering how battle trains should be represented in CNRP. Would an armoured train constitute a tank slot? What about railway guns? Would something with the size and guns of a Soviet second world war Hurban Armoured Train count a multiple tanks? [/quote] This is a tricky one. I think that they shouldn't have a limit simply because of how useless they are on the battlefield. They're extremely slow-moving, and can only go where the rail lines are. Plus, since you're probably the only one who's going to RP it, it really shouldn't be a problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king of cochin Posted January 22, 2011 Report Share Posted January 22, 2011 Limits in CNRP has generally been placed on weapon systems that have tactical applications in CNRP war. Railway artillery like those fall into the realm of the obsolete, but still present some real challenges in design, construction and operation. In today's world of satellite reconnaissance, you just cannot hide such a weapon or the special tracks required by them. If someone forgoes these liabilities and wants to use them, I see no reason why not for the flavor of RP it brings, so long as the number is reasonable. I dont think any sort of calculation would be needed for such a thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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