North Atlantic Security Treaty

[Maelstrom Vortex]

"I beg to differ. It is definitely a form of aggression, a people will come under the influence of a government they have not appointed, elected, or welcomed.. However, whether or not the aggression is a permissible one is an altogether different question. The world as a whole has recognized that anarchy is not an ideal state for a nation to exist in and historically friends of nation have adopted neighbor states when there was the mutual consent of their neighbors, but this is a conflicting land claim. One claims a protectorate.. the other is a claim of sovereignty. What needs be done is a discussion towards resolution without guns at the table. It isn't slander to point out what is easily observed."

-MV.

[Colerich Krieg]

OOC: LOL I just read the "NASTY" Acronym

Edit: Nvm Mael wasnt the one who thought of it so

Edited August 30, 2009 by Colerich Krieg

[Maelstrom Vortex]

ooc: Wish I could take credit for that one, but it was Oate's idea.. the acronym that is and most of the language of the treaty.

Edited August 30, 2009 by Maelstrom Vortex

[Colerich Krieg]

ooc: Wish I could take credit for that one, but it was Oate's idea.. the acronym that is and most of the language of the treaty.

OOC

Ahh, nvm then.. still.. sounds like something you would have came up with >.>

Edited August 30, 2009 by Colerich Krieg

[Elrich von Richt]

Imperial Dispatch:

The Haruhiist Empire does not see the need for a defensive treaty in this situation. While not all of Tahoe's past policies can be agreed with by both us, and others, that does not mean you must run to seek protection when he has a rightful claim over the land. The state was in anarchy for some time, and thus, he took the neccessary precedents to protect the general Texan population, and ensure the anarchy didn't spread elsewhere. The Empire believes the steps taken by Tahoe to be neccessary, and shall the CFNA invade Texas without reasoning, or should a war erupt due to the actions of the CFNA, the Haruhiist Empire will send medical troops to Tahoe, if acceptable, to provide care to their military troops.

Signed in the name of Haruhi,

Itsuki Koizumi

Imperial Minister of Foreign Affairs, Mysterious Transfer Student

Edited August 30, 2009 by Elrich von Richt

[Sargun II]

"Even in the struggle that we continue to fight in, New Zealand will honor our pact with Tahoe. If the Dragon Empire attempts to interfere with the legitimate operations of Tahoe, the Zealander Navy will be forced to launch."

[Maelstrom Vortex]

"We have no intent on bothering Tahoe if they do not bother Mexico.. they do need to discuss the Texas situation in more detail in a more amicable manner."

[Sargun II]

"No, they don't. For someone who objects to anyone interfering in Asian affairs you sure are happy to jump across the globe."

[Maelstrom Vortex]

"If other states want friends in Asia they can have them, we are not bullies. Likewise we expect to be treated in like fashion on other continents. What we consider interfering in Asian affairs is direct, active, military intervention. We have no right to dictate to local sovereigns with whom they could associate or we could be telling New Zealand to break its ties with Tahoe and we know how well that would go over. This is not the case, however. Tahoe and NZ have a right to their own relationship just as we have a right to form such with Mexico without the interruption or interference of Tahoe. The only reason we even signed the MDP was because it had been conveyed to us that Mexico had been leaned upon not to have any relations with us."

Edited August 30, 2009 by Maelstrom Vortex

[Sargun II]

"The one leaning on Mexico is yourself. Tahoe has done nothing to these people other than grant them independence. As soon as the Dragon Empire was approached, tensions rose. That alone shows how destabilizing you are. You are not just making friends, you are telling Tahoe what they can or cannot do."

[Manetheren]

First, I will remind all parties that by far the vast majority of Mexico remains a protectorate, not the CFNA.

The ongoing incident in Texas is a matter between the governments of the Tahoe Republic and Amerikanisches Reich. We do not need to discuss the security arrangements of our allies with anyone, particularly Asian governments. It is unfortunate that the CFNA has their opinions, which are clearly fueled by out of continent influence, but they aren't particularly relevant to the ongoing civil strife.

We would hope the Dragon Empire and CFNA would applaud the Tahoe Republic for giving them their independence instead of attempting to put pressure on us because of baseless claims.

[Maelstrom Vortex]

"We do applaud you for granting them their independence, but they are a movement of the people as well. You can't keep them cooped up. There is absolutely nothing wrong with our treaty with them long as you do not bring them harm. All of it is friendly.. trade.. science.. co-operation. There is no pressure on you unless you have intent to cull your child."

[Michael McBride]

Calling upon North American nations to sign an MDP against Tahoe is the height of stupidity. Tahoe has long been a bullwark of North American sovereignty and independence. Just look at their own doctrines and their being a co-signer of AASSD.

Futhermore, we condemn both the CFNA and the DE for their actions in this matter. We condemn the DE for meddling in North American affairs and the CFNA for allowing themselves to be used as a pawn of the imperialists of Asia.

[Maelstrom Vortex]

"The same old propaganda. We're becoming friends with Mexico and simply protecting them. Hardly meddling. We have significant economic interests to protect in the region it makes sense our ties deepen. Oates made me aware of a credible concern about Tahoe attempting to reduce their sovereignty and free action, we're only assuring them they have every right to act as a free state. Tahoe seems to want them to be free and sovereign and if they do then there is no impasse with the Empire. I'm beginning to think this 'incident' is entirely overblown from simple misunderstanding."

[Oates]

"I can assure you that we are not pawns of any Asian or North American nation, we are equal partners. While the North Atlantic Security Treaty is a security treaty, it is also an economic and political pact between numerous great nations. Read the laungage of the treaty, it is a defensive pact. We will not make the first move in what would be a World War, and I can assure you that any military action against the parties of this treaty will result in such. Our potential partners in North America have nothing to fear, unless they seek military expansion into Mexico.

However, we will not isolate ourselves from the continent. Recent military adventures have shown that this is impossible for us to do. Military action in the Great Lakes region and Texan region have shown that some of our neighbors will use force against their weaker, more unfortunate neighbors. We will protest any and all military actions in North America, and we will extend a helping hand to those countries that face the tip of a spear. With that said, I'd also like to state that we are open to friendly relationships with those countries which would chose peace over war, brotherhood over bloodshed. Any nation that seeks to establish further economic and political ties with the CFNA is encouraged to do so."

[Markus Wilding]

So preventing anarchy, in a region that will most certainly cause more death and destruction without the protectors, is now aggression? Bohovia had fallen into anarchy, and GLS helped quell that anarchy. GLS has no other track record of aggression in war. The government in Texas had become unresponsive and the probe revealed that the government had collapsed. I reccomend that you read up on your history before making such bold statements.

[DeSchaine]

Nations falling into anarchy and being administered by stronger neighbors has happened many times in the recent history of the world, not just in North America. The fact that you oppose the establishment of law and order in an area that has fallen into chaos shows you to possibly have nerfarious intent.

Taeunas will not have ties of any sort with a nation such as yours. Good day.