Centurius Posted April 3, 2009 Report Share Posted April 3, 2009 While believing in Innocent until proven otherwise looking at the evidence provided until now we come to the conclusion this man is guilty and hope Justice will be swift. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranather Posted April 3, 2009 Report Share Posted April 3, 2009 "Though I am nonetheless saddened to hear that a man of the Faith may have committed these actions, should he be found guilty in a court of law, then one can hope justice be carried on swift wings." - Archcanon Tholyer Saryoni, Catholic Church of South-Central Africa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Frost Posted April 3, 2009 Report Share Posted April 3, 2009 (edited) We are disappointed that the punishment, if found guilty (which we are confident he will), for serious crimes is so light. How does Azerbaijan hope to deter such crime with such light punishments for Genocide? Edited April 3, 2009 by Lord Frost Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agostinho Neto Posted April 3, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2009 We are disappointed that the punishment, if found guilty (which we are confident he will), for serious crimes is so light. How does Azerbaijan hope to deter such crime with such light punishments for Genocide? We have no death penalty in Azerbaijan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agostinho Neto Posted April 3, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2009 (edited) People's Supreme Court, Baku In the center of Baku, the People's Supreme Court building is one of the few remnants of Soviet architecture in the Azerbaijani Republic. A big, heavy guarded 5 floors tall building where the General Prosecutor and his assistants investigate on the crimes against the Republic and the people of Azerbaijan. Before the war, the court's main duty was to judge the laws voted by the parliament, and approve them or eventually reject them for not being compatible with the country's constitution. When the transition from "Parliamentary Democracy" to "Single party state" occured, the building became a high security Government building, sorrounded by armed guards and security systems such metal detectors, security cameras, and armed soldiers doing body searches. It is also requied to show a Government badge in order to access any of the court rooms inside the building, and no spectators are allowed in the court rooms, for security reasons. Edited April 3, 2009 by President Aliyev Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V The King Posted April 3, 2009 Report Share Posted April 3, 2009 And why does everyone automatically assume he is guilty? Is not the maxim "innocent until proven guilty?" Nothing has been proven yet--it is still only accusations.And you call yourselves civilized nations. "The Vinilandese statement was erroneously transmitted through communication channels. The words of our Minister were as follow:" "It deeply disturbs us how a Catholic priest performed genocide-like actions... if he is proven to be the party behind the attacks... thus being a criminal, justice must be done - he ought to be punished and judged according to the law, akin to any other criminal. "We apology if the given statement did not properly reflect our stance of "innocent until guilty, but if guilty, justice must be done." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HHAYD Posted April 3, 2009 Report Share Posted April 3, 2009 We are disappointed that the punishment, if found guilty (which we are confident he will), for serious crimes is so light. How does Azerbaijan hope to deter such crime with such light punishments for Genocide? A life sentence is basically punishing a person for the rest of his or her life and being locked up behind the bars forever until he or she is proven innocent. A death penalty maybe painful to the person, but afterward, no more pain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justinian the Mighty Posted April 3, 2009 Report Share Posted April 3, 2009 (edited) A life sentence is basically punishing a person for the rest of his or her life and being locked up behind the bars forever until he or she is proven innocent. A death penalty maybe painful to the person, but afterward, no more pain. Well in Father Abbanov's case, if he were to be convicted then executed, his beliefs tell him that he would serve an eternity of torture and torment in the fires of Hell. Edited April 3, 2009 by Justinian the Mighty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HHAYD Posted April 3, 2009 Report Share Posted April 3, 2009 Well in Father Abbanov's case, if he were to be convicted then executed, his beliefs tell him that he would serve an eternity of torture and torment in the fires of Hell. Well, if it was in that case, then not only he would suffer while being alive, but then die while in shame and you get the point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Keshav IV Posted April 3, 2009 Report Share Posted April 3, 2009 Problem is he doesn't seem to show remorse for his crimes so I don't think anything less then a death sentence would do. But that's our opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freakwars Posted April 3, 2009 Report Share Posted April 3, 2009 In my opinion, he should be turned over to the Vatican. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtleknifewielder Posted April 3, 2009 Report Share Posted April 3, 2009 We agree with Slavorussia. On that note, the Canadian system is basically that which Promised Land described: Innocent until proven guilty. We are glad to see that we are not the only nation who does this in practice. Simply put, if you did not commit the crime, then it would be easy to establish why you could not have possibly committed the crime. Finally, not one person had been found guilty of 'carjacking' in Glorious Aotearoa. Your first statement makes several blatantly false assumptions. First, you assume the person who committed the crime isn't smart enough to make it look like someone else did it. Second, suppose the person being accused (whether framed or simply being in the wrong place at the wrong time) has a legitimate alibi, but no witnesses to back it up because they were simply alone--so you assume he's lying. And what do you do if later on you find the convicted person is innocent? Release them with a pat on the back and say "no hard feelings, mate?" And as Canada pointed out, the 'carjacking' thing is only because you don't HAVE cars. Substitute any other crime of equal or greater severity in the example you were given. We are happy to Azerbaijan send a criminal like this to jail."Knock Knock" Promised Land hope your reading, A religious leader himself is considered dangerous and yet you still support religion. Luckily our nation doesn't need to deal which such maniacs like this priest. Well, I suppose it is fortunate for him that he's not in your nation, as you seem to have already convicted him due to his religion--with no evidence yet presented! And no, a religious leader is not generally considered dangerous. Except by a few intolerant fools like yourselves. "The Vinilandese statement was erroneously transmitted through communication channels. The words of our Minister were as follow:""We apology if the given statement did not properly reflect our stance of "innocent until guilty, but if guilty, justice must be done." Problem is he doesn't seem to show remorse for his crimes so I don't think anything less then a death sentence would do. But that's our opinion. In that case, we apologize for our remarks toward you. We ourselves believe that if he is found guilty, he SHOULD be punished. But ONLY if he's found guilty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agostinho Neto Posted April 4, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 4, 2009 (edited) In my opinion, he should be turned over to the Vatican. Father Abbanov an ethnic Armenian with Azerbaijani Citizenship. He is under custody for committing a crime on the soil of the Azerbaijani Republic, not the Vatican, we know better then the Vatican what the war has provoked in the Talysh-Mughan Autonomous Republic, nothing but Azerbaijani authorities have the right to judge him in the name of the people of Azerbaijan. If he wll be found guilty, he will be punished according to the Laws of the Azerbaijani Republic, we see no reason to hand Abbanov to the Vatican, they have no right to judge an Azerbaijani citizen who is suspected for committing a crime on the soil of the Azerbaiiìjani Republic.. Religion is part of the citizen's private sphere of life, in the Azerbaijani Republic, what is going on between Abbanov and his God is none of our business. Edited April 4, 2009 by President Aliyev Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holy See Posted April 4, 2009 Report Share Posted April 4, 2009 The Vatican sees no reason to accept the accused Father Abbanov especially if he is found guilty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingChris Posted April 6, 2009 Report Share Posted April 6, 2009 The Kingdom of Mayo is disgusted with the alleged claims against father Abbanov; however, it will respect the verdict of him. But, the Kingdom requests that if found guilty that he not be executed, but be placed in a maximum security prison for 3872+ years. Mayo sees that taking away life, even in repairation for other lives, is immoral. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.