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Viresh awoke with a start. His entire body ached from the beating he had received from the King in Delhi’s soldiers when he was being captured, and the hard floor was not helping the pain. He could hear the crackle of gunfire in the distance. He assumed that it was the sound of another scene like the one he had seen on the way to the Rashtrapati Bhavan, that more civilians were being slaughtered by the zengfu. He laughed at himself. Even in a godforsaken prison in a wartorn Delhi, he was still using the Chinese slang he had picked up working as a gold farmer in Dharavi when he was a child. A clattering echoed down the hallway from the guardpost, then angry shouts. Viresh walked to the cell door and craned his neck to try and see what was going on. Gunshots rang out. A voice shouted into the hallway, “Prisoners of the decadent regime! The Revolution has arriv". A gunshot silenced the voice before it could finish the sentence. A second gunshot rang out. Then hurried footsteps moved down the hallway. It was a man dressed in a dark camouflage uniform. He carried a Cochin-issue sub machine gun. When he saw Viresh staring at him through the bars, he approached and asked him, “Are you Major General Mehta?” “I am General Mehta” “Good, let’s get you out of here” “First, I must ask you, who are you, why are you rescuing me?” The other man drew himself into a straighter posture and saluted before saying, “I am Captain Bjaracharya, of the Royal Cochin Army Special Operations Force. I’m here to take you back to your unit so we can get out of this country and gather support to regain our King and Kingdom.” “ Very well, I shall go with you, but first we must rescue the squad of men that I brought with me.” “They’re already out. I’ve got a convoy of AXEs waiting for you so that we can get you out of the city before it explodes.” Gunfire sounded in the distance. Then, a louder explosion boomed into the air. “ I’d say it’s too late to get out before it explodes at this point.” Makeshift barricades appeared in the streets before the assaulting forces of the 2nd ACR. Delhi troops had held them, but as the troops approached, it became clear that only corpses manned them now. Dozens of bodies in civilian dress lay scattered over the barricades, with the occasional Delhi soldier mixed in. A civilian holding a rifle and hoisting a flag stood atop the barricade that faced General Bhatnagar’s unit. The flag was plain red, and the words on it read लोगों के लिए पावर. The man atop the barricade set the flag into its place. The soldiers watched him warily, waiting to see what he would do. He raised his rifle, and a shot rang out. The civilian crumpled to the ground, a flower of red appearing on his forehead, to match his red flag. The dismounts set to work clearing the barricades out of the way so that the APCs could continue onward to the Rashtrapati Bhavan, the palace that the “king” had stolen. General Bhatnagar didn’t know what they would find there. Would the red flag be raised over the corpse of the city? Or would the king still rule over the bloated cadaver he called India? The APCs thundered toward the city center to find out what there was to find.

Just in case Melech isn't allowed to nominate himself for Best SCIENCE!, I also nominate him.

The issue is not that it is illegal for the land to not be labeled a protectorate, the issue is that it is confusing when you are effectively claiming a protectorate but you want it to be labeled as free land. I honestly don't see why it is problem for you to have it labeled on the map as a protectorate in order to avoid confusion.

The king leaned forward from his museum-piece throne. “Have you come to swear fealty to me, you Gosree Dragoons of India? Have you come to throw off the shackles that endless foreign empires have thrown on us? Well? What say you!” Viresh stood straight and said to the king, “I am loyal to King Varma, the rightful ruler of all the people of Cochin, including his loyal subjects of the subcontinent. You are a traitor, sir, and my men will come and throw you down in the name of the King.” The King of Indias face grew red and he began to shake with rage. In an apoplectic fury he screamed at his guards, “Arrest this man. He is a traitor to India and a dog of the Cochin Imperialists, and I will have his head for this offense!” The Cochin-uniformed soldiers of Delhi grabbed Viresh and roughly forced his arms behind his back. He craned his neck and saw the squad of soldiers that had accompanied him trying to fight off the men of Delhi. He heard a crack and one of the Delhi men fell back from the melee, his arm bent at an unnatural angle. One of the men holding him shoved him to the ground and he was no longer able to see what was happening. Brigadier General Rohit Raj-Singh paced back and forth in the command tent of the 2nd ACR ‘Gosree Dragoons’. General Mehta was three hours overdue. A brief radio message had come in from the detachment guarding the AXEs at the scheduled check-in time before they cut out abruptly. Rohit had ordered the Regiment to prepare for an assault on the city and had gathered the other generals to the command tent in order to prepare for the assault. Brigadier Bhatnagar spoke up, “ Rohit, is it really necessary to invade the city? There will be many civilian casualties if we go through with this, are we sure it’s necessary?” Rohit turned and spoke,” Goddammit, I know the deaths we’re going to cause! But we have to get the General back, and before the UFE arrives somehow. This is the only way to accomplish that mission. I don’t like it, you don’t like, but we don’t have to like it, we have to do it.” “Alright. We’ll do it your way.” The First Brigade 'Death's Angels' and the Second Brigade 'The Wolf Brigade' moved out of the camp where they had been arrayed in serried ranks of BMPs and BDRMs. The rumble of their engines was like a stormfront moving into Model Town.

For Most Influential in Asia, I nominate the UFE, because they are most of Asia For Most Influential in Europe I nominate the Commune of France because they have the most global influence of any of the nations in Europe For Most Hostile I nominate Hethnamark because they only let people into their country once a year For Best National Leader I nominate Generalissimo because he is Generalissimo.

Major General Viresh Mehta, formerly of the Royal Cochin Armed Forces, rode in a convoy of AXEs on their way into the Kingdom of Delhi. His three vehicles were surrounded by what he had been assured was an honor guard who would protect him on the way to the King. As they drove through the narrow streets of Model Town in North West Delhi, Viresh noticed that the people seemed frightened of the Delhi troops and his own. His curiosity was laid to rest when they came upon a line of Delhi infantrymen firing into a crowded, blocked off courtyard. The screams echoed behind them as the convoy preceded onward. Viresh shuddered. Delhi had changed a great deal since the coup d'etat. The convoy stopped in front of the Rashtrapati Bhavan, where a heavily fortified roadblock had been erected halfway along the causeway leading to the Governor's Palace itself. The sergeant in command of the unit waved the convoy into a makeshift parking lot in what had once been a garden. Viresh climbed out of the AXE, and motioned Sergeant Rangarajan to his side. "Leave half the men here to keep the AXEs ready to go. I don't trust this King...what was his name?, "Privtharaj Chauhan"?", Viresh whispered to the soldier. "Yessir. The men will be ready to provide a proper guard in a moment." The doors opened into what had once been a great dining room for the governor of Delhi, but what was now the throne room of the self-proclaimed "King of All India". The King was a large man in the way that a retired athlete is: neither fat nor strong. He wore clothes in the style of the Mughal Emperors that looked like they had been looted from a museum somewhere. The Delhi Sergeant leaned over to Viresh and spoke in his ear,"When you approach His Majesty, be sure to bow before him." " I will not bow, sir. I bow before no man but King Varma."

OOC: The events in this RP happen during the collapse of the KoC. I meant to post it earlier but then Christmas and a pile of other things happened. IC: "General Mehta! General Mehta! The Kingdom is lost. General Mola Ram has launched a coup d'etat against King Varma! The men are deserting en masse and the UFE is advancing uncontested. The war is lost!” the lieutenant shouted as he ran into General Mehta'a office. The General calmly looked up at his aide. “What is this treason? The war cannot be lost, the war will not be lost. “ “but sir, the Kingdom has fallen! We cannot stand alone against all the forces of the UFE. We must surrender.” “ Very well, tell the men to surrender.” When the lieutenant turned to leave, Viresh pulled his sidearm from its holster and shot the aide in the back of the head. Gray brains and the red splatters of blood splattered all over the walls and door. The General stood from his chair and walked to the body. He looked for a moment, nudged it with his foot to ensure the young soldier was indeed dead. When he was satisfied that the lieutenant had been killed, he dragged the husk into a closet. With the corpse hidden, he opened the door and ordered one of the soldiers working in the HQ to broadcast an order to the Regimental MPs to shoot any man who tried to desert. Another order was sent out to the rest of the division to retreat to the south in the same order of battle as they had when pulling the expeditionary force back to Hami. Their objective would be the nearest unoccupied port. “We will return to restore the King or his heir to threir rightful throne one day. But for now we must retreat and gather our strength.” The General told the command staff. Dust rained down from the ceiling of the headquarters of the 2nd brigade of the Gosree Dragoons as a UFE artillery shell landed near the defenses in Xinxingxia. The communications officer yelled that a message from Hami HQ had arrived for General Raj-Singh. The General strode across the room and took the radio from the officer. "We are to retreat?! What the hell is General Mehta thinking! If we retreat the UFE'll have a straight path to the capital. We have to kill those !@#$%^&* now to keep our people safe!...What do you mean General Ram has taken King Varma prisoner and is ordering a surrender to the UFE! $%&@. Very well, the 2nd will hold while the rest of Singhforce retreats to the south. The best chance for my units survival is if you provide me with the support helicopters and the Piranhas for the retreat. My brigade will hand over its AXEs to the rest of Singhforce to facilitate their retreat... What the $%&@ are you talking about! There are civilians in Hami and the UFE has Mongol troops with them. We have to get them out before the UFE arrives...Goddammit Viresh, I won't let civilians die just to save out own necks!...Very well then, I'll pull out as many f the troops as I can. The Blackhawks will still be appreciated.” The roads were choked with refugees fleeing the depredations of the routing soldiers of the Border Guard. In places where groups of refugees had been overtaken by the broken men, the screams of women rang out, and the sound of gunfire inspired the other refugees to move faster. Some ran too fast, and their vehicles stalled on the side of the road, leaving them helpless. Many tried to run on foot, but the Border Guardsmen took a fiendish pleasure in running them down in AXEs. Those who did not run sat by the side of the road in despair, their tear-streaked faces turned toward the sky, beseeching their gods for aid. Some ran towards Mola Ram's army in Cochin, where they hoped to find some protection. Others gathered around the Gosree Dragoons, as they fled south in good order towards Delhi, where they heard the garrison still held. There they hoped to refuel and replenish other supplies. Still more refugees fled towards Bangladesh, where they heard they could find some protection. The division had gathered a tail of thousands of refugees that stretched for miles behind the unit by the time they came into sight of Delhi. A convoy of AXEs drove out of the city. They stopped a mile from the division and called for a representative of the division to come treat with His Majesty Privtharaj Chauhan. "Brigadier Raj-Singh, I am leaving you in command while I go to speak with this "king". I will check in every hour. If I do not check in, you have my permission to invade Delhi, as long as the UFE hasn't managed to get through General Ram by then." "Understood." "Good, I'm trusting you with this, Rohit."

I would not want to live in my old nation, Andonia. It was paranoid, pseudofeudal and incredibly racist to anyone who was not part of the Andonain ethnic minority. Even if you lived the privileged life of a noble, you were expected to constantly train for war, because they didn't trust non-Andonain to fight in their wars. In addition to that, the government was extremely prone to coups and civil war. In addition to that it was a bit of a theocracy. On the plus side, virtually all the power was provided by geothermal and solar energy, and if you were a wealthy non-Andonain businessman you could purchase a title and gain the privileges of a noble without having to fight in the frequent wars (civil and foreign). If you were from the short-lived Socotran province, you could escape the feudal system because it was a direct fief of the Allthing. In addition to that the Socotrans were able to gain a lot of money from the trade to the RA and the Mediterranean. So basically, unless you lived in Socotra, which was only part of my country for about an RL week, or you were a wealthy non-Andonain it would suck to live in my former country.

The only rules that should be applied are these 3 1. No forced RP 2. No forced RP 3. No forced RP The purpose of CNRP is to have fun, not to build a realistic simulation of the world. If you want to, that's fine, but don't go trying to set up rules that make everyone else do so as well.

"General Mehta! General Mehta! The Kingdom is lost. General Mola Ram has launched a coup d'etat against King Varma! The men are deserting en masse and the UFE is advancing uncontested. The war is lost!” the lieutenant shouted as he ran into General Mehta'a office. The General calmly looked up at his aide. “What is this treason? The war cannot be lost, the war will not be lost. “ “but sir, the Kingdom has fallen! We cannot stand alone against all the forces of the UFE. We must surrender.” “ Very well, tell the men to surrender.” When the lieutenant turned to leave, Viresh pulled his sidearm from its holster and shot the aide in the back of the head. Gray brains and the red splatters of blood splattered all over the walls and door. The General stood from his chair and walked to the body. He looked for a moment, nudged it with his foot to ensure the young soldier was indeed dead. When he was satisfied that the lieutenant had been killed, he dragged the husk into a closet. With the corpse hidden, he opened the door and ordered one of the soldiers working in the HQ to broadcast an order to the Regimental MPs to shoot any man who tried to desert. Another order was sent out to the rest of the division to retreat to the south in the same order of battle as they had when pulling the expeditionary force back to Hami. Their obkective would be the nearest unoccupied port. “We will return to restore the King or his heir to threir rightful throne one day. But for now we must retreat and gather our strength.” The General told the command staff. Dust rained down from the ceiling of the headquarters of the 2nd brigade of the Gosree Dragoons as a UFE artillery shell landed near the defenses in Xinxingxia. The communications officer yelled that a message from Hami HQ had arrived for General Raj-Singh. The General strode across the room and took the radio from the officer. "We are to retreat?! What the hell is General Mehta thinking! If we retreat the UFE'll have a straight path to the capital. We have to kill those !@#$%^&* now to keep our people safe!...What do you mean General Ram has taken King Varma prisoner and is trying to surrender! $%&@. Very well, the 2nd will hold while the rest of Singhforce retreats to the south. The best chance for my units survival is if you provide me with the support helicopters and the Piranhas for the retreat. My brigade will hand over its AXEs to the rest of Singhforce to facilitate their retreat.”

The whole point of this was that some people thought that the GM position had grown too powerful and was starting to make rules on their own instead of simply mediating. The simplest fix is for the mods to create a rule for GMs indicating that GMs can only change rules with community input. I don't think anyone would be able to object to that. There really should not be any reason Mael shouldn't be allowed to have his lizard people as long as he does not claim that they have powers that make them massively better than ordinary people.

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[quote name='Voodoo Nova' timestamp='1324516937' post='2883688'] You made the concern known, yet you have not offered a viable solution. [/quote] The earlier suggestion of increasing the importance of RPing over IG stats would be a viable alternative

[quote name='Triyun' timestamp='1323827094' post='2877118'] Freakwars, which would you prefer. Cochin respond between my next response to your post, or me posting tonight? [/quote] It doesn't really matter to me, so whatever you prefer.

Kaiser, my soldiers are well over 31 miles from the border.For your artillery to hit my troops they would have to cross the Cochin border, which you never RPd. I think there are some Border Guards there, I'm not sure. [img]http://i.imgur.com/Yahru.jpg[/img] The positions I initially posted. My troops are now retreating back down the highway depicted in the map. [img]http://i.imgur.com/f9VZc.jpg[/img] The scale on the map.

[quote name='Evangeline Anovilis' timestamp='1323009667' post='2862246'] Well, a geosynchronous satellite would serve most purposes just as well and is even more out of range. And besides grenade launchers, SAM's and FlaK, one could also just et it down with fighter aircraft. If I were to observe something, I use conventional means. At least something that doesn't give me one more vulnerable point, that takes ressources to cover. [/quote] Blimps make a good backup if an ASAT takes out your sats.

[quote name='Kevin Kingswell' timestamp='1323205583' post='2866027'] Some of you may have noticed and even looked at my new nation thread and I was wondering if it is okay with you all if you could tell me your feelings on my post quality. As many of you I have been a somewhat average to poor writer in the past and even in the present I felt that I did write quite badly however, with my Imperium nation I actually stepped back and have taken my time with writing out my posts that is why it has taken two days to get a new post out. So in general I was wondering if you guys could tell me what you think of my posts and if you have any tips or ideas. Also if you have any questions I will happily answer them. Thanks. [/quote] You definitely have improved, I just wish you'd capitalize things like African. Bad grammar and usage from other people bother me.

[quote name='Triyun' timestamp='1322950365' post='2860974'] As soon as the bombardment began, UFE radar and overhead electro optical scopes would pick up the locations of the artillery bombardment. Especially with the concentration of enemy fire, the IR emissions would become even greater apparent to the multiple aircraft moving overhead. This combat information was swiftly relayed to units across the battlefield. The first engagement would be done with ETC 155 mm artillery. The ETC would generate superior speed per artilery shell, further enhancing the accuracy of satellite guidance. These units would put down fire on the bombarding target. At the same time, A-47 attack drones would engage the enemies MLRS systems as they fired. This would be supported by deployments across units in the field of the Non-Line of Site Launch System Mk II. These systems enabled all units to launch their own long range attacks. As MLRS units setup positions, these missiles would fly at low altitude where forward looking radar would have trouble detecting them and downward looking ones would reflect off the earth's surface thus increasing difficulty of detection. The missiles would then slam into the MLRS systems as they opened up fire on UFE forces. The NLOS-LS would be supported as well by several rear deployments. The first would be the positioning of the rail guns the UFE had at the rear of its forces. These large weapons kept on portable trucks would fire devastating rounds into the MLRS and SPART postions. A total of about 18, they would rapidly lay down fire after hooking up to portable power positions, before disembarking to new locations. Each of these had the effect of a full battleship volley on the enemies position. At the same time, the UFE outranged the enemy with the use of tactical ballistic missiles, equipped with multiple anti-vehicle flechettes in each warhead. As the enemy force attempted to concentrate its fire for 30 minutes of bombardment, from 200 kilometers, over 400 small tactical ballistic missiles would be used to degrade the enemies launchers. At the same time though, the UFE was employing active defensive measures. NLOS-AA Hydra's would use their ETC cannons and HDRM munitions to rapidly degrade incoming rocket based attacks across the area. Microwave emitting weapons across the field of battle would be used to jam and fry the circuitry of the satellite guided artillery shells, throwing off their guidance and reducing accuracy. While at the same time solid state lasers would be used to engage and degrade the artillery bombardment further intercepting many of the shells as they came in. Armored units did not simply sit in the open. Both sides of the border were extremely well defended and fortified. Armor that was stationary were in bunkers reinforced equal to the Cochinese own, and with the UFE relentless attack on the artillery positions, the ability to defeat the bunkers armor was rapidly being degraded. There was some effect more noticeable effect on the moving UFE armor, but again it was moving rather than stationary. This meant satellite based attacks, which really couldn't provide up to date pictures on individual ground units were somewhat lessened in effectiveness, further the stury armor and active defenses, and onboard jamming pods, meant without a direct hit, general bombardment was lessened. As enemy forces advanced, a surprise would be left for them. The UFE would allow them to advance with light contestation, remotely deactivating parts of the minefield making it seem much less intense than it was, just enough to make it look as though it was trying. Before as the enemy force was sufficiently crossed in the border, the UFE detonated fifteen HPM landmines. The high powered microwave devices with proven capability against EMP hardened targets (see CRS report 2009) would go off in the middle of the armored columns, doing all sort of mean nasty damage to target scopes, transmissions, radios, and other equipment would be a nasty as hell surprise. After their detonation, UFE artillery was concentrated on these positions along with UFE MLRS, NLOS-LS-II, and NLOS mortars. Pretty much the entire numerically superior force within 100 clicks of the position was bearing down onto the EMP hit targets. The mines, having been protected from lack of above ground wiring now activated remotely. Large areas of explosive detonated enmasse beneath the advance of troops. At about twenty clicks the UFE Fury Tanks would also soon begin their attack on the units. Using their 152 mm ETC cannons, they and sinking in with other radar systems, they would be able to provide pin point accuracy on their attacks towards the beleaguered forces. This was rapidly joined by various other armored vehicles, all maintaining movement while firing from beyond visual range. Many of these smaller vehicles would carry several battlefield size tactical missiles which would be equipped with white phosphorous. These units be fired enmasse on troop positions, swiftly followed by the use of an incindiery warhead. The results of the attack were intended to be immediate and obvious. Single units charging across the border was a bad idea. [/quote] The counter-battery fire devastated the positions taken by the Self-Propelled Guns, but their constant movement and their own detection of the enemy positions and missile launches allowed 150 of the vehicles to survive the indirect fire from the enemy batteries while returning fire themselves. The missiles were largely stopped by the five-layer defense system employed by the Kingdom. Another 16 of the artillery guns were lost to missile fire. The necessity of counter-battery fire significantly retarded their attempts to reduce the enemy positions, but the extreme precision of the guided rounds made the fire extremely devastating. The fire from the railguns was devastatingly effective against the artillery batteries, destroying another 26 of the guns. The missile attack on the MLRS was less effective because of the higher mobility of the vehicles. They could fire and be away before the missile even cleared the hill. 12 of the launchers were lost to the counter-fire. Any hostile armor that was out in the open would be heavily savaged by the few SMArt 155 shells that made it through the enemy countermeasures. The IR and radar detectors built into the submunitions allowed them to locate the enemy tanks and fire their explosive penetrators into the relatively weak armor on the top of the tank. The combination of multiple sources of sensor data allowed the submunitions to largely bypass the jamming from the UFE tanks, but a small number of them were unable to stay on target because of the effectiveness of the UFE jamming techniques. Very few of the Excalibur shells made it through the UFE defenses, and those that did had very little effect. OOC: I hope you don’t mind me saying the Excalibur shells had very little effect. The HPM landmines had little effect on the comparatively primitive BMP-3s, BTR90s and BDRMs, but the highly advanced T-150 tanks with Singhforce were heavily affected by the landmines, as were many of the infantry small arms. Luckily, the anti-tank missile launchers and their missiles were not turned on, so the HPM mines did not affect them, and so were still usable. Brigadier General Rohit Raj-Singh was supervising the advance of most of the Second Regiment from a modified BMP-3C Command Vehicle when the lights flickered and died, and the transmissions from the radio abruptly ceased. He was confused for a moment, then understanding dawned. “ Everybody OUT! Move, Move, Move!” The general and his command staff tumbled out of the vehicle as an artillery round scored a direct hit on the top of one of the suddenly blind and defenseless T-150 tanks ahead of them. The damage was not nearly as spectacular as Hollywood would suggest. The round hit in the engine compartment, crippling the tank. The crew bailed out as more rounds landed in among the column. Raj-Singh pulled out his personal radio and tried to contact his commander, Major General Mehta. The radio didn’t even pick up static. He threw it away in disgust. He turned to one of his aides. “Take the command vehicle and get a message to Major General Mehta that the front of the attack has been stalled by some kind of unusually strong EMP. Tell him we are likely to need the reserve force soon.” The young lieutenant nodded and scrambled back into the BMP-3C. The machine turned and blasted back towards the rear at full speed. Suddenly, the world seemed to shake and all the sound of warfare was silenced, then it stabilized in what seemed to be a sideways orientation. Then it started to shudder again. With a start, Rohit realized that an artillery shell had landed nearby and knocked him to the ground. Two of his aides were dead, and a third had a shard through his leg. The third was the one shaking him and appeared to be calling his name, although the general could not hear him. He got back up and started dragging the injured lieutenant towards a nearby hollow that he hoped could shield them from the worst of the shrapnel. The other two surviving aides hurried to help drag their injured fellow and the General into whatever cover was available. When they made it to the small hollow, Raj-Singh turned to one of the relatively uninjured aides and shouted at him through the ringing in his ears, “Tell Colonel Rupesh of the First Brigade to pull the T-150s back and get in contact with the Third and Fourth Brigades to get the IFVs and APCs to scatter to present less of a target for the UFE artillery. Then get Colonel Gupta to deploy Javelin teams as dismounts from the APCs to counter any armor forces. You have my permission to commandeer some additional men in order to contact all the commanders.” Raj-Singh was starting to get his hearing back as he turned to his last aide and told him, “Commandeer us an AXE so that we can get away from this artillery bombardment and get Lieutenant Chahan to the field hospital.” Major General Viresh Mehta watched in shock as the badly battle-damaged BMP-3C that he recognized as belonging to Brigadier General Raj-Singh drew up in front of the HQ building in Hami, Xinjiang. A bloody young Lieutenant he recognized as being one of Rohits aides climbed out of the hatch on the command and saw the General. He hastily salunted and nervously shouted, “General Mehta, sir, Singhforce needs reinforcement!” “Calm down, son. Tell me what happened.” General Mehta said reassuringly. “The Pinkos hit us with some kind of EMP, which knocked out critical systems on the T-150s! The IFVs and APCs were mostly ok, but all the communication is out. General Raj-Singh has been using runners in AXEs and IFVs to relay his orders across Singhforce. He respectfully requests that reinforcements be sent to the North of the enemy line in order to smash through the enemy and get in behind them. He also requests additional Javelin teams to reinforce the main force to brunt any armored offensives and advises you to get the mechanics ready to refit the retreating T-150 forces.” General Mehta nodded thoughtfully and stroked his beard. “No, inform Rohit that he is to retreat to Sitian and an extra 500 men in Javelin teams are on their way to bolster his rear guard. I want him to pull the T-150s out first, then the BMPs, then the BDRMs, with the BTRs bringing up the rear. Split 3000 infantry among the APCs, with any leftovers to go in the AXEs and trucks. I will also send some working radios with you so we can reestablish communications with the whole force for an orderly withdrawal. Whatever artillery we can spare will launch another bombardment fairly close to cover the retreat.” The General Mehta turned to one the aides hovering over and his shoulder, and ordered,"Find Colonel Banerjee and tell him to take 2000 men to reinforce the Border Guards in Xinxingxia." 50 of the SPGs launched a volley from their new positions 30 miles north of their original positions. They fired primarily SMArt 155 anti-tank guided rounds and Excalibur guided rounds for close-in fire on the enemy, then shifted position rapidly again. The Regiment had lost 79 BDRM LRVs, 23 BMP-3 IFVs, 43 BTR90 APCs, 318 infantrymen and 12 T-150 tanks.

I think the main problem with the current system is not so much the scale or anything based on IG stats, I think its lazy rp and lack of explanation. Using a bunch of technobabble without explanation is basically the same as lolteching, except people are much less likely to call BS on someone who technobabbles. The easiest way to solve most of the problems I have seen is just to make people at least post links explaining the tech they are using at the bottom of their post.

[quote name='Triyun' timestamp='1323046642' post='2862813'] Rail guns have approximately 300-400 kilometer range, and fire up into the stratosphere than down. Further a 2 cm tungsten slug is the effective equivalent of a 16 inch iowa battleship cannon. They aren't firing straight across, no artillery is, all is firing in an arc, that goes well above most hills. You will need to be specific with the rest. [/quote] I misunderstood your post. It sounded like they were line of sight firing from the way you worded it, plus I kind of assumed that it would have to fire straight because its a railgun. I cannot understand what any of your acronyms refer to except NLOS, MLRS and HPM. I also can't find the CRS report you refer to about the ability of HPM to get around hardening.

[b]Triyun[/b], where are those railguns located? Because if the rear of your force is where I think it is, then you would be firing through a number of hills, and I don't think even railguns have the power needed to punch through a significant amount of rock and dirt, and then smash through modern armor. Also, could you tell me what basically all the acronyms you used when defending against my attack mean? I know NLOS, but I can't find an explanation for the others.

[quote name='Triyun' timestamp='1322712184' post='2857588'] Actually IRL, it is there likely isn't. The US concepts which it is based on likely far outstrip the world by a considerable margin (I'd be happy to get into this in query or on IRC with anyone who is curious). Half of global R&D spending on military technology is done by the US. The US has a virtual monopoly on the top tier schools in high tech. It has the largest aeronautics companies in the world. Most of the gap in between there isn't filled in by China or Russia, but by the Brits and the rest of the EU. In other words its highly likely that the F-22, X-47, and F-35 as well as all other things based off of these technology testbeds far outpace anything that the Russians, Chinese, or their partners have. I did graduate level surveys of China last year whose high technology capability sectors look far more promising than India or Russia's in higher ed, and they just get killed by the West + our Asian allies. I'd be happy to get into specifics of these broader trends, but its pretty obvious Putin's marketing claims aside that the gap since the Cold War ended has just grown by leaps and bounds in high technology and producing the type of quality innovative engineers you need to keep that edge up (as opposed to sheer quantities of diploma mill engineers). Understanding stealth, supercruise, low probability of intercept EM emissions, and other technologies and how to integrate them into a doctrine and use them is not lolteching. It is no different than understanding and developing doctrine to include tanks in WW I or carriers in WW II. [/quote] I never suggested that Russia or China were likely to develop ways to detect the fighters. I was actually thinking more along the lines of a classified vulnerability, or a technology developed by the Americans themselves, which they obviously would not want to get into the hands of a country like China, so they would keep it a secret. The problem is that those of us who are less well-versed in aeronautic technology can't actually tell if you are lolteching or not because we don't know if the vehicles you propose are possible or not.

[quote name='Kevin Kingswell' timestamp='1322702169' post='2857414'] I don't feel it needs to be reigned in at, instead I feel it needs more explanation. It is perfectly easy to say that your technology helps against radar detection but if you don't explain it then it is difficult to understand why it helps after all there may be a way to be it which you wouldn't know about unless there was an explanation given. So no need to reign in the technology just need more explanations. [/quote] I really hate to whine about this, but I kind of feel like there does need to be a closer cap on how far the future tech can be rpd. When people rp using tech that is at or beyond the cutting edge in military it will be really hard to rp stopping them because any tech that could detect them either is not yet in existence or is heavily classified and so not available. Case in point, the Quantum fighter that the UFE is using. I spent hours searching for the slightest possibility of a reliable method of detecting the dam things and nothing I could find was really effective. There probably is some way to detect it fairly reliably, but we can't know because its probably super secret. I also agree that does need to be a lot more explanation given for how things work, even if its just in the form of articles linked at the bottom of a post.

OOC: Artillery bombardment is 200 self-propelled guns and 50 rocket systems. If I overestimated the shells or rockets that I have the ability to fire or the amount of area that it would cover, please stay calm and I will work to remedy the offending estimate, if it is indeed an overestimate. [img]http://i.imgur.com/ATcSW.jpg[/img] Political map of the attacking forces [img]http://i.imgur.com/Lu8Zi.jpg[/img] Map of the terrain in the same area, without attacking forces The 1st and 2nd Artillery Brigades of the 2nd Armored Cavalry Regiment 'Gosree Dragoons moved from their base in Hami, Xinjiang to a position 30 km from the UFE-Cochin border, where they then began the bombardment of the enemy positions using a mixture of 90% M982 Excalibur 155mm explosive rounds and about 10% SMArt anti-tank artillery rounds. Their top rate of fire was somewhat diminished due to the necessity of frequent movement to avoid counter-battery fire. The effect of the artillery fire was significantly increased by their use of MRSI, which allowed several volleys to land on the enemy positions at the same time. Satellite imagery was used to improve the accuracy of the artillery fire on the enemy fortifications and armor forces, which allowed the GPS guided rounds to land as close to on top of the enemy positions as they could make them. The 3rd Artillery Brigade (rocket) moved to a position about 26 km from the KoC-UFE border, and timed its first volley to hit at the same time as the second MRSI from the 1st and 2nd, launching rockets loaded with XM31 644 DPICM sub munitions that could guide themselves to the largest concentrations of UFE troops and release 644 antipersonnel grenades from each rocket. The incredible rate of fire of the MLRS allowed them to lay down 540 rockets during their 30 minute bombardment of the enemy fortification. It was inconceivable to the Cochin soldiers that anything without a layer of steel or concrete between them and the rockets could survive that much destruction. 4000 infantrymen of the Regiment attacked across the border into the shelled territory. They were supported by 250 BDRM light vehicles, 100 BTR90s, 150 BMP3s, and 60 T-150 tanks. This detachment was named Singhforce and placed under the command of Brigadier General Raj-Singh. The remaining units of the Regiment remained close behind, ready to reinforce Singhforce in the event that the the enemy was in better shape than anticipated.