Anu Drake Posted February 20, 2009 Report Share Posted February 20, 2009 Wonder how we missed this last year. NATO was formed on June 1, 2006. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balder Posted February 20, 2009 Report Share Posted February 20, 2009 I will update the list as soon as i have fixed the leak in my PC (darn watercooling!).As for the debate on alliances, im only counting alliances that are active within CN politics e.g treaties and declarations/announcements, unless the member of PPF can provide proof of this he will striked off the list. As for alliances that once disbanded such as VE they can remain with their original founding date as they are the same alliance. The PPF are a rather public alliance. They have posted quite a few threads in the past while (mostly regarding them being tech raided). I would say that if your qualification for being an alliance is that they're active with CN Politics then PPF most certainly counts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steodonn Posted February 20, 2009 Report Share Posted February 20, 2009 I believe OIN merged into GR, we killed IAA, so those two at the very least no longer exist. I'm sure there's others that no longer exist, as well. This is true Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
princessro07 Posted February 20, 2009 Report Share Posted February 20, 2009 I will update the list as soon as i have fixed the leak in my PC (darn watercooling!).As for the debate on alliances, im only counting alliances that are active within CN politics e.g treaties and declarations/announcements, unless the member of PPF can provide proof of this he will striked off the list. As for alliances that once disbanded such as VE they can remain with their original founding date as they are the same alliance. They disbanded for something like 6 months >_> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delta1212 Posted February 20, 2009 Report Share Posted February 20, 2009 I will update the list as soon as i have fixed the leak in my PC (darn watercooling!).As for the debate on alliances, im only counting alliances that are active within CN politics e.g treaties and declarations/announcements, unless the member of PPF can provide proof of this he will striked off the list. As for alliances that once disbanded such as VE they can remain with their original founding date as they are the same alliance. Again, Does fighting in a war count? Anyway, PPF was initially founded and recognized as a one man alliance. It has experienced fluctuating member levels since then, but it didn't sudden;y cease to exist every time it dropped to just Opethian and then reform when a new member decided to join. It has an unbroken chain of existence. Whereas an alliance like GOONS officially had its government disband. It may have some nations flying the AA still, but it's not really GOONS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaaku Posted February 20, 2009 Report Share Posted February 20, 2009 I do remember seeing at least one NAAC affiliation during the last war. Some of their members stuck around for over a year after it disbanded. he's always there. and if GOONS are still an alliance, then so is NAAC. GOONS did announce a formal disbanding no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomInterrupt Posted February 21, 2009 Report Share Posted February 21, 2009 GOONS did announce a formal disbanding no? As I remember it, yes. I think some other guys decided to carry on the GOONS, but the alliance did formally disband. Also I think it's funny how this had turned into another debate over the PPF. It seems rather simple to me really. PPF was considered an alliance before most of the people in this thread knew the game existed. The PPF was an alliance in 2006. The PPF was an alliance in 2007. The PPF was an alliance in 2008. Why wouldn't they be an alliance in 2009? Nothing has changed, save for new people coming in with no appreciation of the alliances and people that made the game interesting before the showed up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hassman Posted February 21, 2009 Report Share Posted February 21, 2009 (edited) WAPA formed in December 12, 2006 Think that should go up there. Edited February 21, 2009 by Hassman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kowalski Posted February 21, 2009 Report Share Posted February 21, 2009 Why do people keep saying they when they refer to PPF? While realistically all hope of PPF ever becoming what most would consider an alliance has been abandoned Opethian probably does technically have an alliance there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floatsam Posted February 21, 2009 Report Share Posted February 21, 2009 (edited) The very definition of 'alliance' is an agreement between two or more parties, so I believe the only reason why the PPF could be considered as one is because of a necessary technicality do to the game mechanics. Edited February 21, 2009 by Floatsam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delta1212 Posted February 21, 2009 Report Share Posted February 21, 2009 The very definition of 'alliance' is an agreement between two or more parties, so I believe the only reason why the PPF could be considered as one is because of a necessary technicality do to the game mechanics. Or becuase most alliances recognize PPF as an alliance. Opethian has spent the vast majority of his time in CN ignoring everything that would be considered the normal conventions of how things work. PPF is no different, in that it is completely different from anything else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vend3tta Posted February 21, 2009 Report Share Posted February 21, 2009 I guess the VE doesn't count? D: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gran the Adequate Posted February 21, 2009 Report Share Posted February 21, 2009 I believe OIN merged into GR Did they then call themselves GROIN? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ejayrazz Posted February 21, 2009 Report Share Posted February 21, 2009 (edited) Did they then call themselves GROIN? You sir are a genius. Edited February 21, 2009 by Ejayrazz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hassman Posted February 21, 2009 Report Share Posted February 21, 2009 Did they then call themselves GROIN? Give him caek! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uralica Posted February 21, 2009 Report Share Posted February 21, 2009 Did they then call themselves GROIN? I love GR, but I :lol:-ed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomInterrupt Posted February 21, 2009 Report Share Posted February 21, 2009 I guess the VE doesn't count? D: This version of the VE was formed on September 17, 2007. So, probably not going to make the list I wouldn't think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delta1212 Posted February 21, 2009 Report Share Posted February 21, 2009 This version of the VE was formed on September 17, 2007. So, probably not going to make the list I wouldn't think. Even if you go by the original founding date, you'd have to take into account the 6 months in which the alliance didn't technically age. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drugsup Posted February 21, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2009 Computer fixed and list updated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warzors Posted February 21, 2009 Report Share Posted February 21, 2009 (edited) OcUK were formed on the 1st of March 2007, if you can't find anyone older to fill the 30th slot Edited February 21, 2009 by Warzors Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorkingClassRuler Posted February 21, 2009 Report Share Posted February 21, 2009 Wonder how we missed this last year. NATO was formed on June 1, 2006. Your Wiki tells liez Clearly some kind of conspiracy to confuse and disorientate us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fireandthepassion Posted February 21, 2009 Report Share Posted February 21, 2009 GDA October 2006 My bad it wasn't September. Source: http://cybernations.wikia.com/wiki/Global_...cratic_Alliance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drugsup Posted February 21, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2009 GDA October 2006My bad it wasn't September. Source: http://cybernations.wikia.com/wiki/Global_...cratic_Alliance Exact or rough date please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BacTalan Posted February 21, 2009 Report Share Posted February 21, 2009 Exact or rough date please Our oldest forum post is October 10th. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Svendonia Posted February 21, 2009 Report Share Posted February 21, 2009 OcUK were formed on the 1st of March 2007, if you can't find anyone older to fill the 30th slot Ooooh, hate to rain on OcUK's parade, but the USN was formed on October 29th, 2006. So sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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