Aeternus Posted December 11, 2008 Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 Actually, this protects you. If they cleared the war slots, then members of Murder inc. would be able to attack you for leaving their alliance. This way, you are offered some protection. It makes perfect sense to do what they did. And wouldn't it make more sense to let Murder Inc. handle the deserters? It takes one or two less war slots off potential Judgement targets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varianz Posted December 11, 2008 Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 And wouldn't it make more sense to let Murder Inc. handle the deserters? It takes one or two less war slots off potential Judgement targets. We promised members of Murder inc. who agreed to surrender under our terms our protection, and that is what the Judgment alliance intends to deliver. Besides, Murder inc. is at the point where we can easily handle them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeternus Posted December 11, 2008 Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 We promised members of Murder inc. who agreed to surrender under our terms our protection, and that is what the Judgment alliance intends to deliver. Besides, Murder inc. is at the point where we can easily handle them. No where in the DoW of war does it offer protection upon surrendering. Why not let the nation surrendering decide if he/she wants protection even? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varianz Posted December 11, 2008 Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 No where in the DoW of war does it offer protection upon surrendering. Why not let the nation surrendering decide if he/she wants protection even? The DoW may not explicitly include it, but it's implied. We WANT people to leave Murder inc., and the best way convince them to do so is to ensure that they are protected when they leave. If they can be attacked immediately after they leave Murder inc., then what incentive is there to leave? If it confuses people, we can edit the DoW to include that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeternus Posted December 11, 2008 Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 Whatever, everyone attacking me is just wasting their time and actually doing worse by allowing me to become unreachable NS-wise after the wars expire...in turn allowing me to reroll. Whereas they could just keep me in war if they left my NS alone after doing enough damage to me. Regardless if you peace wars or not, I won't make an honest surrender. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcane Posted December 11, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 (edited) Whatever, everyone attacking me is just wasting their time and actually doing worse by allowing me to become unreachable NS-wise after the wars expire...in turn allowing me to reroll. Whereas they could just keep me in war if they left my NS alone after doing enough damage to me. Regardless if you peace wars or not, I won't make an honest surrender. Did you fire a shot back after you were attacked? Did you surrender more than 24 hours after the war started? If so, technically you're not eligible for the surrender terms and should continue to be attacked.. Those initial terms were primarily for those nations that were ghosting MI or had very low loyalty to the alliance to get them out and offer them some protection. you'll notice that a lot of them from the first 24 hours were cleared and moved onto other AA's because they weren't a threat. I'm not sure of the specific details for you, but all surrenders needed to take place in the first 24 hours from the DoW. After that, Judgment will deliver formal surrender terms after MI is no longer considered a threat. Edited December 11, 2008 by Arcane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeternus Posted December 11, 2008 Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 Well, I don't know what the deal was...but a GDA member gave me peace while I was wearing the Murder Inc. AA...almost immediately after he said he was ordered to not give peace. Puzzling... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BastardofGod Posted December 11, 2008 Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 (edited) Well, I don't know what the deal was...but a GDA member gave me peace while I was wearing the Murder Inc. AA...almost immediately after he said he was ordered to not give peace. Puzzling... Your nation is out of this fight. The nations that are at war with you can do plenty of damage. There are more targets on the field that need to be hit. Funny you would say anything..after changing your AA to a PoW. Edit ADD: Further Peace was offered by you...when the war was declared originally..you mocked us and are now in anarchy..with big losses. You offered the peace originally...and we are moving our forces around. Edited December 11, 2008 by BastardofGod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeternus Posted December 11, 2008 Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 Your nation is out of this fight. The nations that are at war with you can do plenty of damage. There are more targets on the field that need to be hit. Funny you would say anything..after changing your AA to a PoW. Are you so dense as to realize that was all a guise to try and hurry along my rerolling? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varianz Posted December 11, 2008 Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 Are you so dense as to realize that was all a guise to try and hurry along my rerolling? And then you will be destroyed again...Why don't you just accept surrender? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BastardofGod Posted December 11, 2008 Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 Are you so dense as to realize that was all a guise to try and hurry along my rerolling? We will gladly put you in your place again once you return to the conflict. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeternus Posted December 11, 2008 Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 We will gladly put you in your place again once you return to the conflict. You can trust me when I say that I will return, maybe not under the pretense you expect though, only one way to find out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BastardofGod Posted December 11, 2008 Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 You can trust me when I say that I will return, maybe not under the pretense you expect though, only one way to find out. Cool I'll be sure to bring the balloons for the party. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeternus Posted December 11, 2008 Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 Cool I'll be sure to bring the balloons for the party. Only if I can bring the cake! OOC: Ya'll had a good blitz, I wouldn't dare admit that IC Although I did resist anarchy for two nights, I applaud Judgement for yer effortz, most interesting TE round I've been in so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bomberboy Posted December 11, 2008 Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 o/ Judgement Black Star 10 Believes the same together we advance in battle against those who believe MURDER is good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Benji Posted December 11, 2008 Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 (edited) Nothing wrong with a little bit of Murder. It's just when it get's to think it's more important then other things, is the problem. Edited December 11, 2008 by Commander Benji Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fists of Steel Posted December 12, 2008 Report Share Posted December 12, 2008 I think its a great strategy to get members. No one else has this many members to throw , and obviously no one can copy it because that would be hypocritical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Grinch Posted December 12, 2008 Report Share Posted December 12, 2008 This really wasn't the war it could have been were MI at all competant. Winning the last round thanks to IDIOT's success and then the boredom of their leaders saw them gain a lot of fluff this round as people flock to the 'top' alliance. Oh well thanks for playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arentak Posted December 12, 2008 Report Share Posted December 12, 2008 This really wasn't the war it could have been were MI at all competant. Tactically, we're obviously kicking butt, dealing anarchies 1 for 1, despite being outnumbered 2.5 to 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azaghul Posted December 13, 2008 Report Share Posted December 13, 2008 Tactically, we're obviously kicking butt, dealing anarchies 1 for 1, despite being outnumbered 2.5 to 1. Most Judgement alliances have gained NS while you've lost more than half yours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcane Posted December 13, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2008 Tactically, we're obviously kicking butt, dealing anarchies 1 for 1, despite being outnumbered 2.5 to 1. And most of your anarchies dealt came from Roman Empire. The rest that exist within judgment were, for a large part, already there prior to engaging MI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arentak Posted December 14, 2008 Report Share Posted December 14, 2008 (edited) Perhaps you people don't understand the word "TACTICAL", look it up. We're dealing plenty of pain and death. Like, the Strategic plan might have been to hit RE. I can't say if it was a good or not good plan, but I can say, the implementation has been awesome. Edited December 14, 2008 by arentak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Benji Posted December 14, 2008 Report Share Posted December 14, 2008 As someone watching from the side-lines. I would say yeah, Inc has been tactical. Maybe un-planned tactics, but still good tactics. Judgement is destroying Inc, but they could have done a hell of a lot better. They have the numbers and strength to keep things up though. end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Believland Posted December 15, 2008 Report Share Posted December 15, 2008 Bone, bone, bone, bone, bone, bone, bone, bone, bone Tell me what ya gonna do where there ain't no where to run when judgment comes for you, when judgment comes for you? What ya gonna do where there ain't no where to hide when judgment comes for you, Cause it's gonna come for you ^One of my favorite song's intro BTW I feel like good no attacking tatics were used by Murder Inc. Murder Inc see you at the crossroads what? Had to include the song title Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drai Posted December 15, 2008 Report Share Posted December 15, 2008 This really wasn't the war it could have been were MI at all competant. Winning the last round thanks to IDIOT's success and then the boredom of their leaders saw them gain a lot of fluff this round as people flock to the 'top' alliance. Oh well thanks for playing. We're still in 1st, if that's saying anything. Obviously people have a different idea of what success is, but to remain well in the lead after over a week of war in our position is no small feat. BTW I feel like good no attacking tatics were used by Murder Inc.Murder Inc see you at the crossroads what? Had to include the song title Glad you were so willing to provide us your reasoning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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