Captain Enema Posted September 20, 2012 Report Share Posted September 20, 2012 I'm sorry, this rule puts an artificial restriction on the game that stinks. Let's get rid of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtleknifewielder Posted September 20, 2012 Report Share Posted September 20, 2012 So much for waiting a week, eh? Not that I blame you... mischief is never far when you are around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isaac MatthewII Posted September 20, 2012 Report Share Posted September 20, 2012 Part of me agrees with this actually. There are far to many rules that are IC and hurt IC RP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triyun Posted September 20, 2012 Report Share Posted September 20, 2012 Isaac... what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isaac MatthewII Posted September 20, 2012 Report Share Posted September 20, 2012 What do you mean what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yawoo Posted September 20, 2012 Report Share Posted September 20, 2012 Get rid of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isaac MatthewII Posted September 20, 2012 Report Share Posted September 20, 2012 I seriously don't understand the "Stop it" "Abolish it" "Get rid of it" posts that don't even cite why the poster thinks this should happen. Reminds me of democrat politics. Hi Triyun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yawoo Posted September 20, 2012 Report Share Posted September 20, 2012 [quote name='Isaac MatthewII' timestamp='1348159706' post='3032310'] I seriously don't understand the "Stop it" "Abolish it" "Get rid of it" posts that don't even cite why the poster thinks this should happen. Reminds me of democrat politics. Hi Triyun [/quote] Quit trying to pick fights and stick to the topic at hand, it's a yes or no question. Do you want to get rid of the nuclear rule or not? Yes or no, simple as that. If you want to explain further that is your right, but is not a requirement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isaac MatthewII Posted September 20, 2012 Report Share Posted September 20, 2012 It was on topic but I really dont care Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iKrolm Posted September 20, 2012 Report Share Posted September 20, 2012 (edited) Has this rule impeded RP? It's already waived if the nation has or develops WMDs, or if the player asks another to nuke someone. I don't see the problem or reasoning here... Edited September 20, 2012 by iKrolm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centurius Posted September 20, 2012 Report Share Posted September 20, 2012 Kill everything with nuclear fire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynneth Posted September 20, 2012 Report Share Posted September 20, 2012 [quote name='iKrolm' timestamp='1348165810' post='3032337'] Has this rule impeded RP? It's already waived if the nation has or develops WMDs, or if the player asks another to nuke someone. I don't see the problem or reasoning here... [/quote] This is my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Enema Posted September 20, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2012 It actually has impeded RP. I've wanted to nuke a certain nation under 20k for some time now. I'm not allowed, give me my cake. Let's kill this with fire, sweet hot nuclear fire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lestari Posted September 20, 2012 Report Share Posted September 20, 2012 As long as it is understood the IC consequences of just launching a nuke at another nation for no reason (or at least, the drastic IC consequences that [I]should[/I] be there) and using nuclear weapons in general then I have no issue with doing away with this rule. !@#$, I didn't even know we had an RP restriction on who you can and can't nuke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isaac MatthewII Posted September 21, 2012 Report Share Posted September 21, 2012 Also, I just noticed and its annoying me. Rid* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zarfef Posted September 21, 2012 Report Share Posted September 21, 2012 (edited) ??? Why get rid of it? Honestly, if you're large enough to own nukes and they're small enough that they lack them, you ought to be able to win the conflict without nuclear weapons, or at least bring it to a defensive stalemate. Nuclear weapons are overused in this RP, to the point that they no longer provide any RP value. They're like missile spams with Michael Bay warheads. All explosions, no plot. EDIT: I propose a halfway point. If you can show that dropping your nuke will be followed by awesome RP and it gains unanimous GM approval, you can use nuclear weapons in that RP. Edited September 21, 2012 by Zarfef Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lestari Posted September 21, 2012 Report Share Posted September 21, 2012 [quote name='Zarfef' timestamp='1348188302' post='3032503'] Nuclear weapons are overused in this RP, to the point that they no longer provide any RP value. They're like missile spams with Michael Bay warheads. All explosions, no plot. [/quote] That's an IC problem. There needs to be more significant IC consequences in reaction to the use of nuclear weapons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gloval Posted September 21, 2012 Report Share Posted September 21, 2012 I feel that the rule should stay, but maybe I'm a bit biased being a tiny nation... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtleknifewielder Posted September 22, 2012 Report Share Posted September 22, 2012 [quote name='dotCom' timestamp='1348188512' post='3032506'] That's an IC problem. There needs to be more significant IC consequences in reaction to the use of nuclear weapons. [/quote]And how do you propose enforcing those? More rules? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vedran Posted September 22, 2012 Report Share Posted September 22, 2012 Yeah...no. Making everybody RP realistic, lasting damages from nukes would be better (so they're actually used as, you know, deterrent). Your suggestion doesn't stem from any problem that needs solving, other than that getting nuked builds character, which is entirely subjective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centurius Posted September 22, 2012 Report Share Posted September 22, 2012 Point me out a case in the last year where the offensive side went on a nuclear first strike and I'll agree that there is abuse of nuclear weapons. So far most nuclear strikes have been by the defensive party and those that weren't were from an offensive party retalliating to a previous nuclear strike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtleknifewielder Posted September 23, 2012 Report Share Posted September 23, 2012 So we should sit around and wait for it to become a problem first before doing anything about it, is that your reasoning? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centurius Posted September 23, 2012 Report Share Posted September 23, 2012 [quote name='Subtleknifewielder' timestamp='1348399121' post='3033293'] So we should sit around and wait for it to become a problem first before doing anything about it, is that your reasoning? [/quote] No, we should shed unneeded rules that have never been an issue and are unlikely to ever become one. Keeping laws that restrict liberties without a problem requiring such laws has always worked well in history. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kankou Posted September 23, 2012 Report Share Posted September 23, 2012 Any examples of those? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtleknifewielder Posted September 24, 2012 Report Share Posted September 24, 2012 Please, tell me how it has truly restricted anyone? And really, what is the POINT of nuking someone that small anyway, unless you are at or near their size anyway? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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