Generalissimo Posted March 28, 2012 Report Share Posted March 28, 2012 (edited) Out of Character bickering about technology in CNRP has become unbearable. Generalissimo has a decisive yet underdeveloped solution. . . Let’s give everyone the same level of technology! Why shouldn’t everyone play CNRP with the same advanced technologies! Generalissimo proposes 2032 technology for [b]*EVERYONE*[/b] That doesn’t necessarily determine that 2032 is the only tech year we have to equalize at. . . Other options could be added to future polls. This is a formal proposal for CNRP rules modification! Edited March 28, 2012 by Generalissimo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triyun Posted March 28, 2012 Report Share Posted March 28, 2012 $%&@ off !@#$@#$ commie. Go back to Soviet Russia where you belong! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zarfef Posted March 28, 2012 Report Share Posted March 28, 2012 I fully endorse this idea. Technology makes for stat-based role-play and stat-based role-play is often times badly done role play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generalissimo Posted March 28, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2012 Technology is for everyone. . . FOR SCIENCE! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evangeline Anovilis Posted March 28, 2012 Report Share Posted March 28, 2012 For once I'm with Triyun on this. This is CNRP. Throwing a stat like tech out the window... What next? A million soldiers for everyone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generalissimo Posted March 28, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2012 We’ve already removed the connection from CyberNations with so many other things. . . Generalissimo still advocates one-to-one ratios from CyberNations for [b]*EVERYTHING*[/b] in CNRP. If the community decides to slide from that ideal – why not make it fair for everyone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zarfef Posted March 28, 2012 Report Share Posted March 28, 2012 [quote name='Evangeline Anovilis' timestamp='1332964084' post='2944447'] For once I'm with Triyun on this. This is CNRP. Throwing a stat like tech out the window... What next? A million soldiers for everyone? [/quote] Role play is not a competitive sport. This isn't a giant game of risk - this is CNRP. Role Play. That means you enjoy the game because you play a role, not because you can dominate another person by beating them up. That's about as low as when bullies get a high off of beating up some smaller kid simply because they're smaller and then the adults go in and say, "hey, that's just like in real life when they get older - they just have to get used to being beat up now while they're young.' If stats weren't used to bully other players around and simply used to create an interesting atmosphere, then hey, that might be cool if both sides had pros and cons. However, the equation only goes one way, the one side has pros and pros and the other side has cons and cons. Who the heck wants to play a game where they're constantly being beaten up and begging for their existence - even if they were just looking for the role play. It's an annoying power trip that was old when I was a much younger nation and it's still annoying today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kankou Posted March 28, 2012 Report Share Posted March 28, 2012 Zarfef, you obviously have been away from CNRP too long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isaac MatthewII Posted March 28, 2012 Report Share Posted March 28, 2012 (edited) I voted yes, because why not? Also Zarfef, you are compleately wrong. It is a game of Risk. Well a game of risk where Triyun has loaded dice and more plastic figures. Edited March 28, 2012 by Isaac MatthewII Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheShammySocialist Posted March 28, 2012 Report Share Posted March 28, 2012 [quote name='Isaac MatthewII' timestamp='1332965256' post='2944456'] I voted yes, because why not? [/quote] Because you want to be able to build your F/A-37 Talons. Anyways, no. That is all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evangeline Anovilis Posted March 28, 2012 Report Share Posted March 28, 2012 [quote name='Zarfef' timestamp='1332964566' post='2944452'] Role play is not a competitive sport. This isn't a giant game of risk - this is CNRP. Role Play. That means you enjoy the game because you play a role, not because you can dominate another person by beating them up. That's about as low as when bullies get a high off of beating up some smaller kid simply because they're smaller and then the adults go in and say, "hey, that's just like in real life when they get older - they just have to get used to being beat up now while they're young.' If stats weren't used to bully other players around and simply used to create an interesting atmosphere, then hey, that might be cool if both sides had pros and cons. However, the equation only goes one way, the one side has pros and pros and the other side has cons and cons. Who the heck wants to play a game where they're constantly being beaten up and begging for their existence - even if they were just looking for the role play. It's an annoying power trip that was old when I was a much younger nation and it's still annoying today. [/quote] Zarfef, your idealism is nice, but play your role when others think it's a funnier role to go on a world conquest. Not everyone is here for just some peaceful role and either one submits, one leaves or one fights. I agree with Kankou. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynneth Posted March 28, 2012 Report Share Posted March 28, 2012 Yes, yes! Tech for everyone! ALL THE TECH [quote name='Evangeline Anovilis' timestamp='1332964084' post='2944447'] For once I'm with Triyun on this. This is CNRP. Throwing a stat like tech out the window... What next? A million soldiers for everyone? [/quote] Let's do this! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacharth Posted March 28, 2012 Report Share Posted March 28, 2012 [quote name='Generalissimo' timestamp='1332964248' post='2944449'] We've already removed the connection from CyberNations with so many other things. . . Generalissimo still advocates one-to-one ratios from CyberNations for [b]*EVERYTHING*[/b] in CNRP. If the community decides to slide from that ideal – why not make it fair for everyone? [/quote] Bothaism $%&@s up your CN nation. That's been proven. That's why this is a bad idea. CNRP becomes a question alliances ask when people join them, because people start playing for CNRP rather than CN, and $%&@ up alliance stats because of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isaac MatthewII Posted March 28, 2012 Report Share Posted March 28, 2012 [quote name='TheShammySocialist' timestamp='1332967325' post='2944469'] Because you want to be able to build your F/A-37 Talons. Anyways, no. That is all. [/quote] Oh hahahahha I get it because I built them and...so anyhow really no I dont agree with this or any change on tech. I think we should all be in 2012 but tech wise no we should not have all this nonsense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Executive Minister Posted March 28, 2012 Report Share Posted March 28, 2012 If i had to spend two years with the fear that the trollbrigade could come at any moment and fire cms at me while I built my tech up to stronger levels, then any !@#$@#$ newbie that joins needs to do the same. No goal post moving. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zarfef Posted March 29, 2012 Report Share Posted March 29, 2012 [quote name='Executive Minister' timestamp='1332977444' post='2944560'] If i had to spend two years with the fear that the trollbrigade could come at any moment and fire cms at me while I built my tech up to stronger levels, then any !@#$@#$ newbie that joins needs to do the same. No goal post moving. [/quote] We fought during those times for days when we could actually make sure that Lavo and friends wouldn't happen again - or at least that we wouldn't become them by using our tech as an instant claim to victory over other nations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MostGloriousLeader Posted March 29, 2012 Report Share Posted March 29, 2012 I don't really mind the current tech scale all too much but I've always felt that at the very least everyone should have access to what actually exists now regardless of tech and then keep some other techscale for more future tech (not too far future though). I remember when I first started out in CNRP there was Lavo and LeVent or whatever and they came out with some ridiculous stuff. Plus I'm pretty sure Martens had his AT-ATs and that guy who was in Finland had a tank that was the size of a damn apartment building or something. Fun times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtleknifewielder Posted March 29, 2012 Report Share Posted March 29, 2012 'That Guy' was, I believe, Baron Uberstein. [quote name='Triyun' timestamp='1332963929' post='2944444'] $%&@ off !@#$@#$ commie. Go back to Soviet Russia where you belong! [/quote] Now now, Triyun, be nice. [quote name='Bacharth' timestamp='1332972744' post='2944508'] Bothaism $%&@s up your CN nation. That's been proven. That's why this is a bad idea. CNRP becomes a question alliances ask when people join them, because people start playing for CNRP rather than CN, and $%&@ up alliance stats because of it. [/quote] Wait, they ask about CNRP? Our infamy has spread that much? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtleknifewielder Posted March 29, 2012 Report Share Posted March 29, 2012 Anyway, i don't think equalization is what's needed, but I think we need to compress the scale a little--basically add a few years to the lowest tier and subtract a few from the highest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaiser Martens Posted March 29, 2012 Report Share Posted March 29, 2012 using 2023 is ridiculous, we've no idea what that tech would be like, beyond the realm of speculation that is. Current year at most. Voted null. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kankou Posted March 29, 2012 Report Share Posted March 29, 2012 It depends, Martens. While most of DARPA stuff are flimsy ideas which might be delayed by a decade, there are other technology which had already been completely proven and just needs to be adjusted for militarization. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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