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Changing Vehicle Multipliers


Kankou
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Basically, a revised suggestion.

Tier 1: Tanks, MRL (x IG tank)
Tier 2: IFV, APC, SPA, SAAMS (small AA missile systems) (x 2 IG tank)
Tier 3: Non-SP Artillery (x IG tank)


Upper tier stats can be used for lower tiers, but not the other way around.

Guns are restricted by common sense.

Hovercraft (bold) is possible restriction.



Any suggestions/comments?

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[quote name='Markus%20Wilding' timestamp='1303242665' post='2693827']
What, what and what? How do minesweepers and torpedo boats translate into tanks?
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I think you mean "How do tanks translate into minesweepers and torpedo boats."

I've been looking at the various functions and types of tanks, and realized that patrol boats and minesweepers are pretty much the tank and cleanup in the sea. To stop people from making massive fleets, tanks can be a suitable substitute, unless we start making new multipliers for the navy.

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[quote name='TheShammySocialist' timestamp='1303243077' post='2693833']
I believe patrol boats are done by the "handled responsibly" rule.
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I agree. With me being a smaller nation that does not have a navy, I think it is a little unfair to have me count my patrol boats - the only thing I have in my waters - against my already small number of ships.

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[quote name='KaiserMelech Mikhail' timestamp='1303243786' post='2693844']
No, no, and no. Things are going fine, nothing needs to be fixed. I ignore this thread, and politely ask you to stop making the same damn thing every three months when the outcome is always the same. Bye bye now.
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This.

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[quote name='KaiserMelech Mikhail' timestamp='1303243786' post='2693844']
No, no, and no. Things are going fine, nothing needs to be fixed. I ignore this thread, and politely ask you to stop making the same damn thing every three months when the outcome is always the same. Bye bye now.
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I agree with Melech.

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[quote name='Kankou' timestamp='1303243049' post='2693832']
I think you mean "How do tanks translate into minesweepers and torpedo boats."

I've been looking at the various functions and types of tanks, and realized that patrol boats and minesweepers are pretty much the tank and cleanup in the sea. To stop people from making massive fleets, tanks can be a suitable substitute, unless we start making new multipliers for the navy.
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Tanks are used to punch through a position and to destroy other tanks, not to clean %*&# up.

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[quote name='KaiserMelech%20Mikhail' timestamp='1303243786' post='2693844']
No, no, and no. Things are going fine, nothing needs to be fixed. I ignore this thread, and politely ask you to stop making the same damn thing every three months when the outcome is always the same. Bye bye now.
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On the contrary, there was substantial support for a change. I am just trying to see if there was such a support still.



The minesweeper idea came from how there are Armored Recovery Vehicles, but I took them off.

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Depends upon how many window lickers you have factored into your equation. Window lickers are the first line of assault in many militaries. They send them well in advance to discover mines and place their McDonald's caps upon them. They also do adorable things like color on tanks and APCs with crayons and then they eat the crayons.

So until you factor in the window lickers multiplier I'm going to have to say no to this formula.

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[quote name='Tidy Bowl Man' timestamp='1303255115' post='2693988']
Depends upon how many window lickers you have factored into your equation. Window lickers are the first line of assault in many militaries. They send them well in advance to discover mines and place their McDonald's caps upon them. They also do adorable things like color on tanks and APCs with crayons and then they eat the crayons.

So until you factor in the window lickers multiplier I'm going to have to say no to this formula.
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[i]"Human child-forms strapped to war-form externals maximize limb-mobility, permits/enhances percentage of human pilots who hesitate before firing."[/i]

I agree that children must be accounted for in this formula.

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Remember dear Executive Minister, they must not be terribly bright children either. The dimmer the better in fact as they must have that essential qualification of being able to loudly proclaim, "Mommy says I'm special" as they charge tanks wearing their McDonald's uniforms and handsomely tailored suicide charge vest.

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[quote name='Executive Minister' timestamp='1303258115' post='2694033']
Who would hesitate to shoot at tanks that have live criminals strapped on to them? A flawed waste of man power, that is.
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*Ties EM up with whips and leather and then hangs him from the ceiling*

You're supposed to be campaigning, not horsing around.


Tidy Bowl Man: Soldier counts. They're meatbags, so treat them as such.


Going back on track here: Where are the comments from the supports of the past?

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[quote name='Chernarussia' timestamp='1303259852' post='2694091']
Also why would hovercrafts need to be counted? they are pretty useless, the most you would have would be a few for special forces incertions etc.
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They're actually a pretty good weapon in the right conditions. While they are easy to attack, if you have air superiority you can pound the enemy while shuttling tens of thousands of troops. Not exactly a good thing in my opinion.

But I figure I'll just take it out.

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[quote name='Philotheos' timestamp='1206405944' post='485277']1. State the current situation.
2. State the problem with the current situation.
3. State how you suggest to changing it.
4. State why your suggestion is better than the current situation[/quote]

Parts 2 and 4 are missing from your argument, Kankou.

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No need for more rules and more calculations. As long as there is no fault of present system or any controversial abuse that cant be solved without due legislation, no amendment for the current rule.

We have enough multipliers and it stays.

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[quote name='king of cochin' timestamp='1303287551' post='2694479']
No need for more rules and more calculations. As long as there is no fault of present system or any controversial abuse that cant be solved without due legislation, no amendment for the current rule.

We have enough multipliers and it stays.
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Can I ask what the current system actually is? From what I know, there isn't any completely concrete rule in the first place, except the ad hoc rulings that causes only arguments to erupt once in a while (if you remember the very long post by EM about why we should have two times the armored carriers)

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[quote name='Markus Wilding' timestamp='1303304431' post='2694557']
APCs/SPA/IFVs fall under common sense.[/quote]

Actually, there was once a ruling of "APCs/SPA/IFVs combined is IG tank max." Other than the fact that such a number was based on an ad hoc decision, it's unrealistic. ZBut more importantly, that's not even being strictly embedded as a rule.

Seems like we found some problems here. Can the GMs at least make a concrete rule, or is it going to be common sense?

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Common Sense, but then we all know there will be someone along shortly who will introduce the first ever APC Spam attack, which all consider if they are properly equipped with anti-tank missiles it might actually be semi-effective.

APC SPAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMM!

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