Grigoris Lambrakis

[quote name='Hereno' timestamp='1348153225' post='3032279'] @Rigas specifically: INT is an alliance of leftists, not a leftist alliance. That's what I keep being told when I bring up ideological solidarity in the CN left, so I'm going to bring it up here and watch the flip flopping. [/quote] Allow me to flip-flop then. What's a leftist alliance in CN if not an alliance of leftists? If you give me a definition and then point this alliance to me, I'll quit Int and join it. [quote]democracy and all that...why bother having the membership vote?[/quote] Cause you can have both democracy and a government I guess. [quote] a war sparked specifically to keep you from defending your allies and destroy your PR to save MK[/quote] Wait, you mean that LSF didn't see the direct tie between MK and NoR or did they miss the tie between MK and CnG? Since when do micros dictate the politics of sanctioned alliances and blocs? I understand your frustration, but perhaps you should chill a bit and use your brains too.

[quote name='Hereno' timestamp='1348146974' post='3032246'] all that [/quote] I don't want to drag Trotsky in the mud. No one deserves this. So I won't go on about him. After all, if you want to discuss his role, you know where to find me. But you can't hold Int's membership responsible about any of this. You see the membership votes based on the info the government decides to disclose, so, practically, the membership can only vote what the government wants them to vote. You do know where to find me about any and all of this. So if you sincerely want answers, ask me on in private. All you can achieve here is drag in the mud the only good alliance the Left has left. You know as well as I that truths are never told in OWF.

[quote name='Hereno' timestamp='1348144722' post='3032234'] Oh shut up. You and I both know the planning/brainstorming/etc. stage for this was over a period of months, and I know for a fact that none of this blindsided INT in the least. Tetris knew about it before we even signed with LSF as part of the due diligence and such that takes place before a treaty is signed. I don't have any particular desire to send INT 'round the ringer, but if you're going to sit there and scapegoat Trotsky now that he's left and then lay everything else at the feet of the LSF, I'm going to have to correct that. [/quote] No one is "scapegoating Trotsky now that he's left". Trotsky left [i]because[/i] of the [i]justified[/i] criticism he received. And in a week we also have elections. That's how democracies work, when the government fails to deliver, you replace them. If Trotsky was not removed, you would be all over the place going "if he failed you, then why is he still gencom?". But I guess hatters gonna hate.

Well, I handled LSF's FA for a good moment during this war. LSF had 2 major allies and none of the two was allowed to enter this conflict. Nothing shocking there for anyone accustomed to the way the CN food chain works. The difference is that NATO was clear and responsible about it. If Int had acted the way NATO did, we wouldn't be here today I believe. But here we are, an ancient treaty cancelled, Int losing a friend that has gone to bat 4 times for us, and the word incompetency more than fitting.

So, what do we say? Grats? Everyone? Good luck? About time? We all have a lot of questions to ask ourselves over this affair. NoR can pose MK some questions. Int can do the same with ODN and CnG with MK. LSF could be asking Int questions. NATO could be asking NPO. MK could ask NPO and NPO could ask MK and ... anyway, good fight.

I, Grigoris Lambrakis, nation ruler of PIIGS (link : http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=502023 )surrender to the superior forces of Nordreich.

Congrats everyone! And congrats to Jrkee, a really pleasant fellow .

NATO is a great place to be. Congrats on moving on, it is always a tough decision.

Looking for people with a serious mental disorder, people who don't give a damn about their pixels and are ready to go to places to fix what needs fixing. In particular, a couple of decent military commanders and a committed recruiter would be most welcome. We pay in lead scraped off NoR's bullets.

Congrats guys .

[quote name='Charles Stuart' timestamp='1343715133' post='3017232'] I swear the original nordreich had a member of their milcom in RL prison who was heavily affiliated with, if not a member of, an extremist white nationalist movement. The name escapes me though. Maybe one of the old commies will remind me? [/quote] Wartides perhaps? It's been a very long time and I don't recall details. It's nothing I ever verified either, just something posted on OWF by a third party. [quote] The point remains, if this announcement had stated that NoR has suffered from nazis infiltrating in the past and that the government of NoR took all reasonable steps possible to keep them out then no one would have bothered. But no nazis ever? Who are you trying to fool?[/quote] Yeah, everybody knows that there was a stormfront invasion of CN back at 06, where SF tried to infiltrate a number of alliances. Naturally, many of them resided in NoR. For instance, I do recall a certain Magnus Nordir writing some essay about race which claimed black people had smaller brains, a couple of other racist essays too. Then there were links to rl neo-nazi groups, holocaust denial etc. All this was hosted in NoR's forums. I really can't see why NoR continues denying this, given that all this material has been removed and most of these people don't seem to play CN anymore. There were pics all over the place anyway.

[quote name='Windblade' timestamp='1343050792' post='3013626'] Who are those people? I've only seen Fatlord posting in this topic to find it back later. Before that a month of no posting in this topic. Now you suddenly post in here to make a silly claim. [/quote] I didn't check when people had last posted or who was the last to post. I only noticed that it was like 3d topic. Then it was too late to remedy. Anyhow. Looks like people don't post too much in World Affairs these days, if such an old topic stays this up for so long while no one's posting.

[quote name='Methrage' timestamp='1343333883' post='3015849'] If you need a gov, I can take over leadership for you guys if you want. Although you'll have to call me Messiah. [/quote] No, that'd be either Padishah Emperor either Kwisatz Haderach. We had a Messiah once, he was a good guy.

Grats everyone, especially NEAT

Whether a direct democracy with delegates is a government or not is a question of semantics. So call it as you like, what matters is that: LSF announcements are official only when made by a Puba. When you want to discuss an agreement or generally FA, discuss it with a Co-FA or you haven't discussed at all. When you want to coordinate your military with LSF's military, you discuss it with the Co-War, it's his job, no one else's. When you need security info ask the Co-sec about it. When you need deals ask the Co-econ. That's how things roll.

Good stuff .

Congrats on peace

RIA is cool .

Besmelesef, I take the solemn oath that the spice will flow again, one way or another.

This thread should be locked. There was a wonderful apology made to IRON, peace was signed, and in consequence, the people who insist bringing this up have some other agenda in mind and not the interests of LSF nor IRON.

Good to see peace .

[img]http://banksyposter.net/wp-content/uploads/products_img/banksy-fallen-angel.jpg[/img] [i]LSF is a fallen angel, no more and no less.[/i]

The alliance theme is a bit plain as it is. Needs more modern Greece and colour. I mean Greece is not only the sea and flags and the army. C'mon, if you've done your military service, you know that the army is the most boring place in Greece. Thankfully Greece is so much more than that. [img]http://breakawaybackpacker.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/DSC00927-1.jpg[/img] If there is room for this in your alliance, I wish you good luck and I'll be happy to help in the future. Unfortunately, I'm kinda occupied on another front right now .

[img]http://i956.photobucket.com/albums/ae47/RedEyesV/WallpaperTankLSF3.png[/img] [size="2"][i]Want one of these? I built it with the spare parts from the 10 NoR nations I fought so far. If I did it, you can do it too. Why grow to be yet another bored tech seller? Instead, build your nation into a lean mean killing machine through the spoils of war against the 3d Reich.[/i][/size]

[quote name='Nemhauser' timestamp='1342712216' post='3012099'] And so you shall. [/quote] no u