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brucemania

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  1. Simply Van (whom as a long time player we all respect) ... this is a Oculus decision and not just NPO ..simple and easy .. i am sure you have been in coalitions or blocs in the past where the majority makes the final decsion and even though you may not agree or are saddened by it ..you go with your allies
  2. Could of been that way yes but in hindsight what is the right thing to do ... if they defend MI6 then they attack NG maybe ... so what happens NPO counters regardless ...plus i am sure many more scenarios ... the one thing i think would of determined the best course is take the option of a TPF counter out by getting as many nations in anarchy before they could do any counter ... but then what do i know .. that would of been a Oculus decision not just a NPO decision
  3. I can respect this Gibsonator definitely... there is no probs with this ... what i can not respect is the crying that we are not allowed to attack a AA that we may have had as allies in the past and even by our own admission we consider loyal and all for when they stood beside us. Then turning around and saying well we had not right too because of it. We dont have that peice of paper no more and unfortunetly it is what it is today. NPO went one way and TPF went another BOTH knowing what may happen in the future .. we hate it they hate it but why cry about it. After the war maybe the leaders of that time can sit and say what they need too .. that to me is the logical way to go. ?
  4. When two alliances are going different directions yes someone has to cancel on someone that is a given.. To add who is to say that you did not actually all of a sudden go to TPF to treaty them to bring the chain closer to try and stop the events of today as well filling them with retoric and the sympathy crap ... wait .. that is politics and sorry it back fired on ya. Your only upset at the end result not that facts. There is a song .. here let me play it for you https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RaIjYvIayj0 keep trying :) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RaIjYvIayj0
  5. I look at the last time we got ganged ... Invicta and Legion and so forth them AAs that we used to be good buddies with ... hmmmmm what else happened in that war ? you know the one were NG got stomped and we defended them and got stomped on as well ? ... hmmmm ... seems such memories are so short and i thought i was a old man :( .. but yet we still hold you in the highest regard for the history we did have together
  6. Yes you did .. one of the few .... but in general the world didnt... but lets face facts at this point ... you choose this path you are on. We did not force you to take the path it was all you and maybe you should look at your decisions instead of blaming us or saying we owe you at this point a free pass. There is not one member in NPO that hates you or despises you as a matter of fact declaring on any TPF nation is hard for any of us. But we both took our paths and we must follow what our leaders decide for us.
  7. Sure we do care. We also look at our history and if i recall we were preempted twice. DH and the next war if i recall. And at that time no one gave a craps as(s) if it was right or wrong cept for our allies at the time which i understand you guys are saying now. Yes agian times of changed and as well the one thing people seem to forget this is not only a NPO thing but it is Oculus. Of which there are many not just one. We are standing with our committment to Oculus so in just picking out just NPO at this point is not the right propaganda for you all. Sure we are NPO and we always take the blame most of the time and we are used to it. In this case however singleing out NPO is also singleing out the whole of Oculus
  8. Times do change. TPF and NPO at one time were great freinds and even today alot of us members hold them in high regard for the time they spent defending us. That is not a question of debate at any point. History has dictated that relationships do sour over time and both NPO and TPF decided to take different directions. NPO choose thiers and TPF went a different path with both knowing that at some point this day would come. Sitting here listening to the old well you should not fight us cause we .... is kinda retoric at this time. It is what it is unfortunetly and we both took the path we stand today.
  9. likes this very much .. well wishes to 2 good AAs o/
  10. :( .. but you know where ya can always come :) .. o/ this is massively massive o/
  11. You are the contestant in the middle right ? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpQQ2WnRtKI
  12. Oh goody .. more IRON in the blood keeps us old guys healthy :) .. o/ to both of us
  13. Congrats to you all .... i see you had lots of fun o/
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