brucemania

thanks JB .. this is prob the best post i have seen from TPF for a very long time .. very honest.....you were not the only one inactive as most of your mates where for a long time ...that inactivity created the downfall between our two AAs.. but some have a hard time admitting it and probaly it was not just one side but both to some extent. In the end it turned out we went one way you guys did not want to follow .. THat is no ones fault. it is what it was. WHat you are doing know sure i get it i really do .with that in mind i hope some of you even stay around as you say in the end of your post .. any ways good luck and god speed

Correct and you made a choice a long time ago to go your own way .. hence why all this crying and bickering makes no sense on your part. Crying we owe you the world for the past does no fit this response does it?

oh and Lastly as i knew you would put this on .. be careful as what you say to leaders of AAs as when you question them about what their membership is saying and insinuating some discord and actually messaging thier members with propaganda and such .. i would think in a lot of cases that would be tampering with the soverignty of a AA and considered DoW by some .

Not that i recall but Invicta did declare on us i beleive a year ago .. point is this .... You all had a choice after the MI6 war and maybe even before that.... and that choice was to talk to our gov and see if there was a possibility of reconsiliation and given our past together i am almost sure ( am not gov) but am almost sure that them doors could of been opened. Instead your so called leadership decided to cry that we owe you the world please dont hit us. Fact is i beleive you did get a apology to the was the DoW Was written at the time of the MI6 war but aside from that you still cried and are still using the same crap now .... do what you want that is YOUR choice .. you made the bed now enjoy what you are getting in return as you have earned it.

actually they do mean something ... we have dropped some in the past and worked out our differences ....as a matter of fact one two examples would be IRON and Invicta... with Iron we had no treaty with at one point and am now together ... Invicta we had sepereated and have worked things out. Read our history son before you make statements without fact.

see them words in the past .... problem is the rest of us are living in the present ... first off we had no treaty when we were at war with you before this crying fest. Meaning if there is not a tie we have no obligation to not do something for our current allies. Seems to me you have a problem of the current as even in the current if you recall we are also at war with other AAs in another conflict ... having allies help with a misquito helps take care of the wasp we have somewhere else.

No one is making excuses from our perspective .. if any one is doing so it is yourself by boasting about how much damage you are doing to nations whom are less prepared than your nations. And age is not a factor due to our nations have a choice to what they do ... meaning if they do not grow it is by choice that they make the sacrifice as they do. If anything knowing they are less prepared and declaring on your nations shows more loyalty than we have seen from TPF since our relationship starting to fall apart couple of years ago.

If that was the case then i am sure more would of been said but hey you know what our Gov and our Allies Gov talk about which is probaly more truthful than rumor you may want to start ...

Sure they do as allies as well maybe they have their own personal agenda which is their right and your own fault for dropping all treaties putting yourself out there for such action. 1 + 1 = 2 ... not 3 as you are trying to make things out to be .

just saying your created the free for all and knowing that when ya hit one Oculus member you hit us all ....so if you want to keep crying then please by all means do so as i mentioned before my Kleenex Stock goes up each time you whine

IN all honesty .. considering you have stated that this is the end of TPF and you have rescinded all your treaties and protection one might just consider you all rogues. WHich means in fact anyone has a free go at your tech and all.

A sad day ... made many freinds with you people ... love ya all o/ ... god luck to you all and where ever you reside your butts

I am so happy i invested in Kleenex stock .. your making me nice and rich .... which is funny for a bunch of people whom claim this is their swan song to say good bye .. one would think you would enjoy the extras that we provide for free :) ...

You guys have come a long way .... Congrats dudes :) o/

These are probably the best words i have seen in the many posts that have been made for a lot of people and hopefully others take them to note as well. Well said Nick. With that said congrats to both parties and things can now move forward between both of you. Seems to me the world should have more wars like this were personal or small grudges should be kept in control of said AAs to work it out like this one with no need of always wars being all global and just being for the LOL's ... again well done to both i am sure a lot of respect has been earned around the planet.

dam no dance :( .. back to the singles club

well just nuke anarchy you can actually declare TBH .. but that was not the point just saying in general

As per someone saying a fair point .. actually not... after three days and someone is not fighting back one would think that the nation in question would go to another war to help a fellow member. Just saying instead of boasting about dominating a inactive nation.....

diplomacy at its best ... good luck as it will probably be a never ending story o/

yeah o/ welcome to the fun friends :)

just for the record sometimes things just dont seem as they look ? from the link http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?/topic/128617-recognition-of-state-of-war-by-swash-plates-and-tail-rotors/

Hoodwinked seems like a strong word .. i would say agreeable and well planned out .. but then "your friends" according to you so you think do not have capable leadership or are not able to think for themselves as if you are calling them challenged. To me personally i see more butt hurt statements for trying to cause descension for your ego than anything else.

Congrats to both parties o/

This is very true. Regardless people seem to think that there is only one tactic through wars. No one gives the credit that some actually have a plan and try to stick to the plan. There will always be critics and there will always be trolls that think wars are won with words. Fact is no one looks at each individual battle and try and look at the present. To many hold on to the past. Them that look at the past can not bring themselves to the present. People change .. times change.

well i would think most would wait to fight someone and actually follow orders of a Alliance leader. Chances are that he is were the leaders of DK have asked him to be as well with the freedom he started something to finnish. Knowing DK's rules on dual memberships he has the choice where he wants to fight as the others are currently exercising their right under their rules. And knowing most of the Doom side no one is scared of anyone. I would just worry what you are facing instead of shifting the point of attack off yourself to ease your war.