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[quote name='Sardonic' timestamp='1299116048' post='2650261'] Congrats on peace. Before any of the other parties we're at war with get any ideas, their rep amount is severely discounted because of them leaving early, and not indicative of how much I intend to charge the majority of you (unless you choose to surrender soon as well). [/quote] It really doesn't matter what you charge. We ain't payin' it.

Well, this is certainly weak. *Yawn*.

Good luck in rebuilding, TIO.

o/ SirPaul!

Have a good war, TGE.

Best of luck!

[quote]You said OSA would not recover from this war.[/quote] Thank you for acknowledging what I said. Now, as I said; have a good war, OSA.

It's a leap, AirMe, to use what I said to support your own conspiracy theories. Trying to lambaste me doesn't remove the fact that I never claimed NPO would attack OSA. With that said, that's all I'm posting here. Have a good war.

[quote name='BloodFury' timestamp='1296887341' post='2620139'] So...it's bad form to come to the aid of your ally and friend? =/ [/quote] No, it's bad form to support an alliance to which you acknowledge that some of the things they do are detestable. That's what is bad form. The principle of supporting an ally is noble, but other things should factor into such a decision. Let's just go ahead and drop the subject. Good luck in your war, and have fun.

[quote name='AirMe' timestamp='1296878571' post='2619829'] You give Pacifican's a bad name. And I know a lot of Pacificans. I may be irrelevant, but you are at least 10 times as irrelevant as I am. [/quote] The problem is that you're assuming that Pacifica is at war with OSA (or at least posting like we intend to wipe them out). You just jumped the gun, went on a verbal rampage and began to assail my point of view before you even knew it. Try reading the whole thread and then making an informed opinion on something before you post. I'm not advocating OSA be destroyed; all I stated was that I thought it was bad form for them coming to the aide of GOONS, based upon their behavior and that there are consequences toy that. If you look at the stats, the numbers don't look good for GOONS. If you disagree, that's fine. I welcome that, as it's what makes this game fun. But simply calling me irrelevant or dense doesn't give your alliance a good name either. I think we're both better than that. Shake hands and move on?

[quote name='AirMe' timestamp='1296876945' post='2619798'] Are you going to declare eternal war on OSA? Cause if so, I need to start prepping the troops for war. Otherwise, it has been determined you are just being a blowhard know nothing and we will just continue to treat you as such. [/quote] Who are you again? Seriously, because I want to know why you're speaking to me.

[quote name='Rebounder' timestamp='1296877251' post='2619805'] I thought you'd like that resignation post more than "I'm leaving because your war tactics are awful, so I'm going to fight on my own." Also, I declared wars on MK way before it was cool (about two months ago, at least). But like the name of my AA states, I'm branching out on my own because I have a voice, and I'm not in your party line. You've fallen into moralist complaining, which I've always been deadset against. The world I envision is a free one, and you represent freedom only part of the time. Also, if I were self-aggrandizing, I'd do a lot better job of it than this. Most will see the OP, think me foolish, then move on. I've never sought to start a real revolution, but rather to be a model for freedom, to show people that to not belong isn't always the worst thing. Applied to alliance politics, it's a message that leads to a freer world. [/quote] Seems to me that having a standing army with multiple battalions of nations fighting alongside you is more organized and strategically minded than fighting by yourself. I know that you think you're "doing your own" thing here, but let's get one thing straight. You're not in this for the movement; you're in it because you're getting attention out of it and now you've already backtracked on your words. You claim you're not starting a revolution, but creating a model for freedom? Why are you accepting applications for intelligence agents, if you were only creating a vision and model for people to not belong to an establishment? The problem, Rebounder, is that you simply can't pick one thing and stay with it. Your nations is an ideological kaleidoscope, filled with whatever suites your needs that particular month. Trying to shove this esoteric belief in freedom and belonging is not going to change that fact. EDIT: As a side note, this will be my last post on the matter. I would rather not put forth more effort into giving this credit more attention that nit deserves.

[quote name='Rebounder' timestamp='1296876271' post='2619790'] Clearly you don't know me as well as you think you do. Of all things, I've never been accused of a lack of resolve. Also, who have I deserted in their time of need? I'm continuing all of my wars with GOONs, and my enemies list has hardly changed. I sense some jealously in you. You envy my freedom, for I now enjoy a freedom you've never known. [/quote] So you're continuing the war. Okay, that's fine. But are you doing it because Pacifica needs you? It seems to me that continuing your wars only serves your current goal: create a self styled "revolution", and fight some grand crusade on a platform others have blazed farther and brighter than you. I would be willing to bet my next tax collection that if you weren't in any current wars you'd be hesitant to lead the way in declaring on any MK or GOONS member. As it stands, you're simply using Pacifica's fight to your own agenda. Like I said; this is nothing but a self aggrandizing movement to increase your own visibility and attention. It has nothing to do with resolve, morals or what is right and wrong. You're still not fooling anyone here.

[quote name='Rebounder' timestamp='1296875686' post='2619782'] I've been a grandstander long before this war. I guess it's just in me [/quote] I s'pose this is going to give comfort to the poor souls duped into following your "revolution"? If anyone has a lick of sense, they'll research your travels and realize that this movement will die within a month, and you'll be off to the next thing. Also, for anyone associating with this man, please be aware that he has no qualms about deserting his fellows in their time of need. If this does not speak volumes about his nation's priorities, and sense of duty, I don't know what would.

[quote name='AirMe' timestamp='1296861533' post='2619607'] I can guarantee you that OSA will rebuild from this better than ever. [/quote] We'll see.

[quote name='mattski133' timestamp='1296843802' post='2619401'] are they? i recall a good portion of your first page being hit, granted they're not first page anymore, but there were PLENTY of people available including key government members that weren't even at defcon 1. It seemed like your entire alliance had no idea what was coming, on that day. Unless you mean you knew Doomhouse was coming, [i]some day[/i], in which case...well i agree that was no secret. but [i]nice try[/i]. [/quote] If OPSEC and I weren't sleeping together, I would love to disprove you. Unfortunately, she is a very jealous creature.

So this is what you're working on now, is it Rebounder? Let's not forget that you apparently had issues with alliances such as NADC, ACV, Vox, MHA, Corporation, FAN, NSO, and Gondor. These are just the ones we know about, and not including Pacifica. You claimed that our leadership doesn't engage the general membership and that our alliance is "self-centered". I find that entirely amusing, given that as a new member, I have had leadership go out of their way to help me when I needed it. Hell, the emperor himself vouched and gave me a personal invite when I was only a few days old. Do you want to know what I see here, Rebounder? I see an opportunity. An opportunity for a person who instead of voicing his concerns and helping to serve something greater, decides to make a self aggrandizing movement based on the lauded ideals of those far worthier than yourself. You're an attention seeker, who having been rejected in past alliances, have sought to give your own self an importance which you would otherwise be incapable of achieving yourself. You are no hero. You aren't fooling anyone, especially those who currently fight the wars on which you're grandstanding currently.

[quote name='Elorian' timestamp='1296806548' post='2619077'] But... This thread is about Open Source Alliance, is it not? Talking about GOONS attacks on whoever, you should probably try and find the proper topic for it. [/quote] So why is GOONS prompting the discussion of other topics then? Perhaps you should direct your impotent rage elsewhere?

[quote name='cs1177' timestamp='1296781953' post='2618462'] GOONS have been outstanding allies and friends. Their unwaivering support for OSA (and our other allies to whom they are hardly- if at all- connected) through thick and thin is the base of our DoW. Through all the good they have done for us, we can see past the one action we don't condone and defend our ally. We support the GOONS in their war. We do not necessarily support how the war was instigated. [/quote] One action? This war and their entrance into it is not the single most example of GOONS behavior. They have a steadfast history of being generally uncouth, disrespectful and amoral. I have had several run ins with their members here, as well as other games such as EVE Online. They are every bit as reprehensible there as they are here. Just admit it; you really don't care what they do. As long as they protect you, you'll turn a blind eye to their transgressions, regardless of the magnitude or consequences. With that said, enjoy your war. I can promise you that your alliance, and GOONS, will not recover from it. Despite what sardonic and Co; like to propagandize. [size="1"] EDITED FOR GRAMMAR[/size]

What is this I don't even...

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Have fun on Holiday. o/ Imperia!

[quote name='Tinton' timestamp='1296796652' post='2618922'] We only planned this the morning we attacked you. How is it possible for you to know what happen? [/quote] Again, read my above posts. I'm not talking about your alliance.

[quote name='sperry2442' timestamp='1296794716' post='2618883'] Are you saying you have a spy in osa. [/quote] If you want to think that, go ahead. I was talking to a member of GOONS in relation to the overall conflict.

'Eff them up good, Molon Labe! o/