Namayan

each front is different both in damage in situation. net gain loss is based on NS loss between dates rather than damage dealt as there are many circumstance that nations rebuy infra, delete, transfer to another AA. Even if you put in the more accurate statistics of damage using the tedious battle chart of each nation of each of their wars, it does not factor in what is happening each tier nor at each front which varies on each tier and varies on each front.

Well this thread is about upper tiers. So, the discussion on the thread is about upper tiers. I highly doubt any of Equilbrium's nations at the upper tiers are eager to hit back again..

I also think everyone should factor out that this damage was calculated based on Total number of NS before entering the war versus total NS. This is highly disproportionate since damage dealt is very different from total NS especially if one rebuys infra. A more accurate way of knowing the actual damage is the battle charts which very tedious. But that is the sacrifice of accuracy.

Thanks for getting the total statistics. Can you further break this down into tiers, by front and by War/peace mode? There also seems to be a bias on this since you only broke down DH side while adding your total coalition rather than breaking up by tiers and by fronts.

AA of AA should just cancel their protectorate treaty with TTK since TTK cannot uphold their treaties by protecting AA of AA military or politically regardless of being at war or not. The whole purpose of the protectorate treaty was to protect AA of AA which has failed to do so. AA of AA should ask another alliance to protect them instead.

The problem with this version of mid-tier war is that the mid-tier of DH is the top top tier of Equilibrium. So it is really depends on how you define mid tiers. I believe this is the only statistical data available to everyone on mid tiers: http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?/blog/811/entry-3683-stats-itb-4/ The data shows a tie between the 80k-60K NS tier between Jan 26 and Feb 11 based on number of nations lost at that tier. I have not included the 100k-80k since this tier is where the majority of Equis 'top tier' resides. So, if you want 100k-80k included, that would be a 'top tier' discussion rather than a mid tier one. The reason the data on this thread is good is that the data shows peace mode and war mode nations and by front by front stats.

That does not seem to be the case. As this thread is all about the upper tier's which Umbrella has already won. One of the purpose of the war is for the rest of eQuilibrium to catch up to the tech of Umbrella which is totally failing. Of course the top tiers of equi is already in peace mode to avoid the super nations of DH. Which in turn gives these DH nations to do whatever they want even dealing tech. This means tech difference will be even more. Based on http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?/blog/811/entry-3683-stats-itb-4/#commentsStart: Jan 26: 150K+ NS eQui - 30 DH - 35 100K-150K+ NS eQui - 231 DH - 153 20K+ tech eQui - 7 DH - 24 Feb 11: 150K+ NS eQui - 7(-23) DH - 29(-6) 100K-150K+ NS eQui - 90(-141) DH - 97(-56) 20K+ tech eQui - 2 (-5) DH - 20 (-4)

I based my conclusion on these statistics: http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?/blog/811/entry-3683-stats-itb-4/ As of Feb 11, the stats shows Equilibrium superiority at the 100k-80k NS ranges. DH has an advantage above 100K-150K NS ranges. While DH also has total superiority at 150K+. While 80k-60K NS range seems to be tie. I based this on the difference between the number of total losses from Feb 4 to Feb 11. As well as the information that Equilibrium has given up the 150K+ ranges. Of course, this should change and I am excited to see the updated stats.

i have to agree with loco and wally about the PM on counting at as possible war combatants. However, based on the table, a rough indication on what is happening by comparing the number of nations per tier. Equi side lost more nations at the 100-150K NS and the 60K-80K NS in all fronts. While DH side lost more between 80-100K NS. Although DH side, lost more at the 150K NS and above, we already know Equi conceded that front/tier. Based on that data, Equi coalition's superiority seems to be revolving around the 80k-100K NS. While at the 60k-80K NS Equi lost more numbers, but the percentage loss is almost the same. So the 60k-80K NS can still be considered as a draw.

Congratulations db4d on your new treaty. Does this mean jrkee and yosoamazing gets to hit me ? Or is it the other way around that I get to hit them? YosoAmazing!

Hi Para, nice to see you again. You have been busy going around CN from Europa into BFF and now INT. Maybe another showdown between you and jrkee at the low tiers? Well, I think stats will be bleak on this case. From the way I see each side post their comment, one side pictures the whole statistics of the totality while the other side uses different statistics like from tier to tier, breakdown statistics, etc. It is why each side is believing they are winning. However, this thread is about the top tier war which has already been decided. Maybe make 100K NS and below anaylsis?

NEW Fantastic members Check counter: 1) Aiding alliances with no treaty 2) Not informing allies that they are dragging them into a possible war 3) Insisting for nations with lower tech to nuke instead of nations with higher tech 4) Consistently Doing aircraft bombing right after nuking and GAs 5) Does not know how to maximize total numerical superiority over the enemy 6) Does not understand why peace mode is used for right after the first round of war 7) Claiming victory beatdown to someone when damage dealt is only 1k infra damage out of the 15.5k starting infra 8) Not as Friendly nor as Cool as DB4D

Fantastic imagination you have. Must be the standards of NEW to have members who does not understand game mechanics.

Did you even understand what this announcement is about? It is a recognition of hostilities between NSO and Shadow Legacy. Because you posted what you posted, You know looked more of the On the side note, NEW should now give foreign aid to Kaskus and keep giving aid to Kaskus. If you NEW cannot do it now, NEW should stop whinning about NSO and Kaskus war.

Why a sudden change of plans if you knew what you signed for? courtesy of magicninja logs:

nice chax

thanks chax. love the sigs

jake, it is like that coalition wide. Shows how "organized" the whole eQuilbirium coalition is even with total numerical superiority. I expected it from our front for them to be disorganized, but I expected more from the NPO/DR front to be more efficiently organized than the rest of the coalition.

Whole of UCoN alliance knows what they signed up for when they voted to join this war. We have accepted our part on this war and doing it. The question is really if the whole eQuilibrium knows what they signed for or if even they have a plan to win this war since it has veered away from its original purpose which was to lessen the gap between DHs top tiers. DH's top tiers are now free to deal damage coalition wide as eQuilibrium already surrendered the 130K NS+ and above by hiding in peace mode as part of their new plan. Another question that you should ask all your eQuilibrium peers is: are they even doing what they are suppose to do as the disorganization is rampant.

Pixels are only valuable to those who value it very much. I welcome the beating on my nation down from my starting 100kNS. I even expect to be ZIed and enjoy the months of war to come from eQuilibrium.

Thru Propaganda?

jrkee, can you back this with facts and statistics?

xR1, something is wrong with your head? You quoted Demonic on number of membership. Yet you keep saying Invicta is the smaller alliance based on demonic's quote which was about number of membership? :facepalm: I dont even know why Invicta accepted you as a member.

xR1, really now? what world did you get your facts from as demonic was mentioning number of membership? Membership count as of Feb 11, 2013 Invicta - 67 DB4d - 125 NEW - 94 MW - 46 UCoN - 26

Oh I am sure your NS will be right be side me since most of the job damage dealt on me was done by DB4D. Not only that, your alliance seems to be incompetent even outnumbering our side at this front 6 is to 1 and is epic failing in stagger. NEW is more of All talk alliance, needs a beatdown as NEW has never taken an upper tier beatdown for years until now. Good luck with all your talk boy, see you down below here.