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This trounces the Pandora's Box announcement hands down. Good luck to both parties.

[quote name='nutkase' timestamp='1286897021' post='2482456'] To every action there is always an equal and opposite reaction. Newtons law always seems to find a way of being true. [/quote] Because a law of physics = social laws, yes?

[quote name='Schattenmann' timestamp='1286822988' post='2481670'] You're right, instead of sticking with their own alliance when faced with overwhelming odds, UOKMB should have just disbanded and joined other alliances like Genmay and GOONS1. I guess some people just have the tenacity to rebuild for 2 months to effect the most meaningful defense, silly UOKMB. It's totally UOKMB's fault that raiding alliances set arbitrary definitions of what an alliance is, then also add in clauses that say these rules can be waived at our discretion, anyway. [/quote] Genmay and GOONS1 have nothing to do with it. Spin harder. You'll soon be powering Planet Bob with it.

[quote name='Schattenmann' timestamp='1286815727' post='2481586'] See above, learn to think objectively. UPN was told if you go to war, then we will go with you, which is more than their ally was willing to do. [/quote] It's a good thing that you're not intentionally holding back logs in an effort to make yourself look better.

[quote name='Bob Janova' timestamp='1286810040' post='2481528'] moral [/quote] I stopped reading there.

You. Ruined. My. Shirt.

I just finished reading over the logs in their entirety. The entire thing is in a bad light. Hurr let's roll gons over nuffin durrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. Please <redacted> harder.

Says the person who leaked what everyone knew. Sardonic is just adding commentary.

Peggy for GOONS Pilot '10

[quote name='Schattenmann' timestamp='1286504236' post='2478435'] Not to mention Sardonic and Biazt have made it clear that as far as GOONS2 is concerned I'm not a goon. [/quote] [OOC]You were a join 4 guild pubbie. Sorry. 2 posts is all you had made.[/OOC] And I agree with this vvvvvvv

[quote name='RePePe' timestamp='1286135521' post='2473337'] You forgot to factor in MK and GOD as leaving their respective blocs for Pandora's Box. [/quote] What are you talking about? [quote name='Felix von Agnu' timestamp='1286135582' post='2473339'] Welp, the cats out of the box now. [/quote] Schrodinger's box? [sub]Yes I got your joke but mine was better [/sub]

[quote name='JT Jag' timestamp='1286131344' post='2473247'] And there he goes, retiring from the debate so he doesn't actually have to provide substance for any of his arguments. Typical. [/quote] And he's now thinking it's a clever move on his part. I mean, after all, we're just like the old GOONS, right? Right? Right? Right? Right? Right? Right? Right? Right? Right? Right? Right? Right? Right? Right?

[quote name='Biazt' timestamp='1286130493' post='2473211'] At least now we don't have to deal with people alluding to the bloc in their posts as if they're somehow clever when [i]entire alliances[/i] knew about this for quite some time. [/quote] I thought Schatt et al were being completely clever. [sub]not[/sub]

[quote name='Timeline' timestamp='1286130470' post='2473208'] aaaawwwww there you go trying to control who post in the open world forum, bravo [/quote] What are you even talking about? Get out as in get out of the topic if you're not contributing anything to it. I was trying to have a discussion with you, but you refuted my post with nonsense. And you just did it again. Bravo.

[quote name='Timeline' timestamp='1286130217' post='2473200'] this reply simply proves my point, this is the reply the so call old goons would make too. [/quote] Nice job. You refuted none of my post and kept on with your "LOL OLD GOONS" rant. Please leave. No really. Get. Out. EDIT: I before E except after C

[quote name='Timeline' timestamp='1286129530' post='2473166'] 1) you would given the chance 2) insane reps because you are power abusing ? 3) WTF is tech raiding then ? I guess those small alliances and nations asked you to attack them ? 4) you can not partly obey rules ?, your pretty much just stating you will obey by the ones you like and ignore those you do not, WOW that sounds like the old goons to me EDIT, for an updated post I had quoted. [/quote] 1) And you would carebear until you die if you could. Prove it, and I'll prove my point. 2) Insane? Seeing those warchests, it was pretty sane, and just a drop in the bucket. 3) Raiding is getting some delicious tech to sell. Delicious. And tears. 4) We obey all the rules. Tell me which ones we break.

Good to see. OOC: Beating the final part of Birth By Sleep right now. Quit making me want to play more :<

Excellent read as always Schattenman. [sub]Oh wait, this is a topic that actually makes sense. Also, I very much agree.[/sub]

[quote name='JT Jag' timestamp='1285945659' post='2471080'] Fixed this for you. [/quote] That's a pretty sweet template. Can I use it sometime? Also, DrBeefStupid, are peoples lives worth more than others? Like +/- a few million ice cream bars?

[quote name='BloodFury' timestamp='1285916597' post='2470883'] I'm not calling you out on your honor, and I did agree with you on the fighting part that it could of been done alone. I just stated my opinion. You don't have to try to convince me of your reasons. I know why you did it, and many other alliances would of done the same thing in your position. I am not one of the people attacking you from the sidelines here. [/quote] I've said it before and I'll say it again, it seems that everyone in these current conflicts has their head on straight. Just the peanut gallery is crying, so let's all be friends while we race to the bottom.

[quote name='Methrage' timestamp='1285916018' post='2470872'] Maybe you guys should be worrying more about all those GOONS nations I've crushed that need aid to rebuild and I'll focus on keeping my own members active and able to continue. [/quote] It's a pleasure to inform you that this is [b]exactly[/b] my job, and I say I'm doing far better than you.

[quote name='Methrage' timestamp='1285915634' post='2470865'] He will get aid, although you don't decide the timing on these things, its not meant to be convenient for you guys. [/quote] I hope it's convenient enough for him that he doesn't end up in bill lock far over whatever aid you try to get him.

[quote name='Methrage' timestamp='1285915457' post='2470861'] If you manage to get up to my range again I'll knock you back down again, but until then have fun feeling good about your minor victory while you're still out of my range. [/quote] You're threatening to knock him back down? Woah. Tough guy here. How about get Nicholai some aid like any sane alliance leader would do instead of flapping your jaws.

[quote name='Methrage' timestamp='1285908784' post='2470759'] You were able to discover the first aid source because Fernando made that thread, the second two you were able to find by seeing they had switched their team color recently so they could send the aid despite the sanctions on me. Even using that you weren't able to confirm they had sent secret aid without sending investigatory 'aid' packages which you can't do anymore, so as long as people avoid repeating those mistakes the chances should be pretty slim of getting caught. [/quote] You more or less told us who they were. You're terrible at keeping secrets.

[quote name='Methrage' timestamp='1285900319' post='2470578'] Is there a point to knocking them into anarchy when tech raiding other than piss them off? [/quote] Unless you're attacking with absurd odds against you, knocking them into Anarchy is relatively easy.