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Declaring wars, diffaming the enemy, signing treaties with friends based on trust, signing other treaties with opportunistic intections, claiming that the whole membership of an alliance you don't like is 14 years old, posting images of dolphins, stating that an X alliance you don't like is the "status quo" and you are going to destroy it even when you can destroy it because you are the status quo, mocking the neutrals... etc.

You are "controversial/annoying/provoking" in a neutral way. A bit like Captain Hindsight... the superhero who does nothing but gives his opinion about everything.

I nominate: 1 - Rotavele... and it's not for creating this thread, which is OK. 2 - Neo Uruk... Because he's such a mess and his posts are really terrible... and he's even able to make the best cause look bad. 3 - Tywin Lannister... Because his thread about the super secret conspiracy to attack TDO is... well... I have no words. 4 - Jerdge... Am I spelling his name right? Because he's as GPA as possible... whenever there's a thread about _whatever_, Jerdge will come and give his "neutral point of view". 5 - D34th... Because I like him... and he's the most epic bad poster often... and he would feel offended if I don't include him!

Yes, I want to congratulate TOP, Goons, but specially I want to congratulate Unknown Smurf for being very special.

As a brain implanted being, you know NOTHING about who is actually leading you with the powers of telepathy.

Full disclosure of very secret information: The Illuminati Alliance otherwise known as TOP controls everything and the MushQaeda attacks to the neutrals are the plans for a New Bob Order. The members of MushQaeda and the former members of the MK are controlled by Brain Implants and are forced to follow the commands of TOP, an Alliance which is actually controlled by the Galactic Federation of Light (an extra-bobian shadow government of Alien forces and ascended masters). Needless to say that the leadership of TOP on Bob is actually an alien species of reptiles (not humans). There is also secret files that show that TOP controls the Music Industry of Planet Bob... with the intention of keeping the population of Bob dumb... and a perfect example of this control of the music industry is Sir Paul's "The Promise of the Order" (yes, Sir Paul has a brain implant too... before the Brain Implant, he was actually a good musician!). Even more secret information: the true God of TOP: The Satanic Platypus is the satanic and platypic God that the leadership of TOP serves... and is using its power to control both the disbanded MK and the MQ (with the Brain Implants). Further investiagation: the Platypus grip The Platypus Grip, as it is often used by the higher commands of the non-human reptile Alliance known as TOP shows the loyalthy they have to their satanic and platypic God. And I wish that the ultra-secret information I provided will help Tywin to expand his conspiracy theories about the New Bob Order.

It doesn't seem to be the case. MK actually disbanded! It looks that some former MK members created an Alliance ad hoc to attack TDO and have fun. Whilst other MK members are joining other Alliances.... and probably have no interest in MQ. In a short period of time, ALL the members of MK will be in other Alliances... some of them in MQ, some others in different Alliances. It isn't smart to assume that MK disbanded to create MQ... it's absurd.

Yeah... when the NPO had the power, the game reached its peak of fun. Specially if you were an enemy of the NPO (and I was one). All the enemies of the NPO were always walking on thin ice.. I do remember the government of the NpO giving the membership of the NpO gag orders from time to time (but I know that several other Alliances had to do the same)... because a "wrong" word posted on the OWF could lead to a fatal war. Each time Schatenmann published an issue of "This week in Pacifica"... WOW... every person on this game rushed to read it. It was incredibly dramatic and interesting!!!! All those situations made the game really fun. A lot of people was getting involved in several political discussions all the time. The MK never produced situations that I consider to be specially interesting. The MK mostly brought the "internet memes" to the game. The memes are funny for 1 minute... and after that minute, they are a bore. i.e, a perfect example would be MushQaeda attacking TDO.... and the fun of it is to create a parody of Al-Qaeda and praise Archon as "Allarchon". The problem with such thing is that "Allarchon Akbar" is funny for 1 day... and after that day it is just a random war with several pages of people typing "Allarchon Akbar"... a silly meme. And the use of a meme also involves that there are no interesting discussions. It doesn't matter what the TDO says about the attack, the only reply that they will get is "infidels, convert" Allarchon Akbar!"... and the discussion finishes there. This gives me a fun that in a scale that goes from 1 to 10 would be around 4. And the MK always did such thing. So, yeah... in short... hating the NPO provided me a level of fun that equals 9... and hating the MK provided me a level of fun that equals 4. And I'm not saying that the MK are worst people than the NPO... neither that the NPO are worst people than the MK. I simply mean that IC the NPO provided me with more fun.

The #1 Villain of CN was the NPO.... I don't know what you mean with MK not being "worse than NPO". If I have to give it the maximum scores they reached in the peak of their glory: Being a villain and evil from 1 to 10 with 10 being pure evil and 1 being pure goodness: NPO = 10 MK = 6 Making the game interesting for the whole community: NPO = 9 MK = 4 Being able to control everyone: NPO = 9 MK = 6 I was both anti-NPO and anti-MK when both Alliances reached their peak of their power. The NPO was by far worst than the MK if "worst" means more evil, more destructive, more power hungry. The MK wasn't specially evil, but they didn't make the game more interesting... they mostly destroyed the most political sides the game has. I, for sure, hated the NPO by far more than I hated the MK. Same thing is probably true for most people who have been enemies of both. But it's kinda good when an Alliance makes you hate them so much. You probably know about the Godwin law... that says that people will have a tendency to compare their "internet enemies" with Hitler during a debate. The "Hitler" of CN, for me, will always be the NPO... and I'm not comparing them with Hitler, I mean that they are the image that Planet Bob has of "pure evil"... and that's an interesting accomplishment.

I don't agree at all. The amount of power that the NPO had in the peak of its power was by far bigger than the power the MK had. We even had to post in the forum mostly following the NPO guidelines!! The MK never had that power... you may say that "they had it, but they didn't use it".... to be honest, I don't think they had it.

I do remember the failed attempts at creating some stuff that was like an "United Nations" of CN... or some sort of court that was going to decide stuff when there were conflicts between alliances. Yeah, such thing was never created and most people never thought about it as something that made sense or could be done... but it was an idea that several people thought that was possible.

Isn't there a Creative Commons license for the Moldavi Doctrine? Would it be possible for Terran Empire to claim a "fair use" of the doctrine? If not, how much infra or tech per day does it cost to use the doctrine? [ooc]you made me remember of something, but I'm writing it on the "stuff that was usual..." thread[/ooc]

It is a wise move, because if the Terran Empire had been attacked by Mushqaeda instead of TDO, I am sure that TDO would have rushed to defend your Alliance. In the same way, I am sure that TDO will always sacrifice itself in the future to defend the Terran Empire. Philanthropy is beautiful... but always remember the old saying, "don't cast pearls before swine". I'm betting on TDO God!!!! Those logs are epic.... Even sig worthy.

The non-neutral part of Planet Bob never heard anything about that "law"... but I think I like what Mushqaeda is doing to TDO... without caring which one is the result of the war, TDO was brought into the playing field. They may also be giving a lesson to the other neutrals.... and the result of the "lesson" may change the way in which the neutrals play in the playing field (even if the result is treaties betweeen neutral Alliances to defend themselves in a mutual way against "LOL Neutrals" attacks). This whole thing is quite interesting actually.

Yeah... I must admit it is kinda funny how you managed to convert them from "neutrals" to people who is promising an eternal war in less than 48 hours. I can't say that you didn't do a good job.

The New Polar Order is one of the best Alliances, I forgot to say such thing: http://polarorder.net/ I am a member of the New Polar Order.

The game is mostly lead by Alliances. An Alliance is a group of nations working as a team. Most of the Alliances will ask you to visit an external forum and register there and apply for membership. If you don't join an Alliance, the chances of getting attacked by bigger nations are extremely high... Most alliances offer the new nations some "help" to grow. That's why everyone is talking to you about "Alliances". The chances of survival without one are close to 0%.

Do something epic that no Alliance has ever done: -Open the forums completely.... even the most ultra-secret areas. Full disclosure!!!!!!

LOL.... the thread you quoted is as pathetic as it gets.... !!! But I miss the times in which there were debates about Francoism, because those debates involved a lot of other issues: -CN was a political simulation game. -The rise of the MK changed the way in which politics are perceived. The MK was as political as the NPO... except that the MK brought an absolute lack of depth to the politics of the game. i.e, what Mushqaeda is doing right now against TDO... it is quite funny. But I do prefer the paranoid world we had before the rise and fall of the MK... with all the Alliances trying not to make any mistake and having the need to defend their actions in a political way. I'm not saying that the MK was "evil" or "wrong"... I'm only saying that its style destroyed the political depth of the game. -The debates about Francoism brought a LOT of other political debates. Francoism was clearly fascist... but many Alliances reacted against Francoism and created alternatives. Anarchist alliances, democratic alliances, fascist alliances.... and even guerrilla-like alliances. Vox Populi! and schatenmann were epic and something absolutely new to the game. And Vox Populi! existed becase those "Francoist debates" existed too. It's not surprising that the MK never had a "Vox Populi!" fighting against them... mostly because it didn't make any kind of sense, it didn't make sense to create antti-MK political propaganda. -The thread you posted about Francoism is, yeah, pathetic. Mostly because it is talking about a past that is gone and that won't come back under the same disguise that it had (i.e, "Francoism"). I really hope that CN will become, again, a political simulation game that has depth.

I don't think the MK will "transfer" its reputation to TOP.

Polar doesn't either have lots of votes or very few votes. It's interesting now to see which one is the LEAST likely to get rolled: LoSS... only 12 votes so far.

He probably meant that the location of your Alliance means nothing in CN. So there aren't really alliances based on geographic stuff. One of the biggest exceptions was an Alliance called FOK... that was for Dutch players and their forum were mostly in Dutch.... but they ceased to exist.

Because Yamuliss' threads of his war against IRON became funnier. I know it must be hard for Alterego to face that he's no longer the hype.

LOL.... I actually miss the NPO oppression, it was hateful... but it was also fun.

And I add DoorNail and that's a perfect triumvir.