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mattski133

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  1. i wouldn't say there was a communication breakdown. if the guy had asked to raid jason8 maybe we would have agreed. as it is, things got a little cloudy when determining if they wanted peace or war and it seems war was the choice of at least three of them. the nation slated to pay for their actions bailed on them so I'm guessing things are not well in that house.
  2. what we're trying to convey here is, that you should join us.
  3. a casual hangout kept free of drama with common sense and founded in the tradition of standing on your own two feet. and :hakai:
  4. how did this...why... no... :facepalm:
  5. you wound me sir. congrats to my fellow members, so far, it's been real interesting
  6. this escalated quickly. i mean, things got out of hand fast.
  7. [quote name='Longshadow' timestamp='1358027266' post='3075607'] And this changes anything how? If they are the same alliance then they should just be on the same AA and save us all the headache. Instead they decided to bandy about and act like real idiots. They continue to act like idiots and this is starting to really get on the nerves of everyone. [/quote] it changes nothing. i know it's annoying, i tried to manage a war against them both for several months. i also said this would happen, along with many other goons, so none of this should be a surprise. [quote name='Rayvon' timestamp='1358028874' post='3075618'] Ok So, does that change the fact that both sides of the fence had factions declare no alliance/connection/treaty between the two and, at the same time, declare it does in other places? The point is about the [i]treaty[/i] between them - and if there is one. And to illustrate further deception [whether it exists or not, they've been deceptive to both regards]. Not to mention, that's the leader of BFF who I was talking to, who is in the possible process of getting screwed over by them right now where BFF and NEW actually do (did) hold a treaty, sharing surprise at the existence of one. [/quote] i doubt there's a treaty. from day one of this i made a post cautioning against expecting a traditional war. i think you guys are doing fine though, all things considered. it IS kind of nice seeing that the frustration is contagious, however.
  8. [quote name='Rayvon' timestamp='1358018679' post='3075559'] Indeed. Was news to us too. [url="http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=114431&st=420#entry3066660"]http://forums.cybern...20#entry3066660[/url] [url="http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=114431&st=920#entry3072737"]http://forums.cybern...20#entry3072737[/url] Reading comments like these helped tremendously in sorting out the relationship. [i][remember these comments, Smurf, when you go through your logs looking for where you noted that we - Kain and I - called you out on said treaty "2 weeks ago" from the time of the logs -- and add it to the list of deceptions committed by Kaskus][/i] [/quote] they're basically the same alliance.
  9. [quote name='AirMe' timestamp='1357935985' post='3074887'] I have a 100% serious question for you. Do you approve of what NEW did? Because you are implying that you do. [/quote] [quote name='Master Hakai' timestamp='1357936254' post='3074895'] Thrown under the bus = recklessly dragged into war without warning? You're right... so far BFF and INT, I wonder who will be next? [/quote] couldn't agree more.
  10. [quote name='Hiro Nakara' timestamp='1357230363' post='3070932'] I'm not defending Kaskus actions, that's up to them, I'm merely a member. I'd have just went about pursuing him in a different way. Kind of similar to the way you guys pursued me, money paid, end of problem. This would have been much easier and better for their members nations than attacking after saying they weren't going to. When we are ready for peace I'm sure Tan will be discussing it with NSO, until then the membership is still enjoying fighting. So I was a GOONS spokesman and a spokesman for every alliance I've sat under? And so is everyone else that posts here? Wow, this place is just full of spokesmen, it's great, I feel happy being amongst my own kind. I'll remember that and take every word from everyone on any given subject is that of their alliance and government, being spokesmen for their alliances and all. Thank god you're here to call it like you see it. Phew! [/quote] your words reflected on goons just as they do kaskus. so, you're welcome.
  11. [quote name='Hiro Nakara' timestamp='1357229052' post='3070929'] You find it necessary did you? I'm sure NSO will thank you for the ever so accurate advice Mattski the sage. I'm sure they know what they are dealing with, without your ever so obvious sage like advice. Thank you though, I'm sure they didn't need your help, they aren't stupid fellows. How am I some kind of spokesman when it's clearly been pointed out to the concerned parties that Tan is the one doing the talking for us? Miss that part have we? I'm here to do my usual thing irritating peoples, being an ex goon you should realize this already. Traps lol yea we're catching bears [/quote] again, anything to be detrimental to your cause. i'd hate to see them engage in [i]any[/i] kind of peace talks with you guys. and you're "some kind of spokesman" because your mouth is constantly open and defending Kaskus' cause. that doesn't mean that tan isn't the negotiator. but i can only call it like i see it.
  12. [quote name='Hiro Nakara' timestamp='1357168061' post='3070606'] Say mongy things and I'll counter them. Don't and I wont. Of coarse you're not butt hurt that you got showed up in your last conflict. I mean i know I'd be butt hurt. If you don't care about us not going back on our word, [b]then why mention it in the first place, seriously[/b]? Kaskus made a good job of ripping your alliance, I'm confident win or lose they will inflict more damage than it's worth for NSO. At the end it wont be terms with us surrendering. GOONS should have chased me for aiding doornail, it's what we really wanted, not this distraction from NSO. Sorry My bad, I forgot, you joined some SW fanboi club. [/quote] I felt it necessary to remind everyone, particularly NSO, how these guys operate behind closed doors. Already, they've gone from well-wishing and claiming they want a fun fight to falling back on the "no surrender" gambit, AND they've been shown to be deceptive by NSO's leadership straight out of the gates. As a bonus, they have you as some kind of spokesman. The two differences, that Kaskus is on the defensive here and seem to have no support for their actions, and that NSO is by no means a bottom-heavy alliance like GOONS, should be enough for NSO to win, I'd just hate to see them fall into the same traps Kaskus had set the last time they rolled out.
  13. [quote name='Hiro Nakara' timestamp='1356889433' post='3069438'] He's already asked for us to surrender, that is not happening and we will continue to fight until they realize this. Don't be all mardy and butt hurt because they stripped you to the bone and made you have to call in an entire bloc to help. [/quote] the guy casually watching you guys punch way over your weight class from the sideline is more butthurt than the guy who feels the need to post a rebuttal to everything he sees? i don't care that Kaskus has not yet gone back on their word in this conflict, my comment was that they had previously. and you guys look ridiculous, by the way. at least everyone hated goons and could get behind them burning. here, you've jumped the shark totally.
  14. [quote name='Hiro Nakara' timestamp='1356880501' post='3069406'] Maybe they are just not liking what you propose, and having read what you did propose, I doubt they will admit surrender like what you ask for them to do. Try proposing something else? [/quote] so Kaskus can once again agree to terms, and then go back on their word? NSO is doing the world a favor here.
  15. [quote name='Rush Sykes' timestamp='1356059517' post='3066510'] Kaskus has 38 nations total.... NSO has 31 nations just in the 30-60K range.... the math does not lie... an alliance with 4x the nations of another alliance... and nearly the same average nation strength... will always have adequate coverage over the smaller alliance. In every range. Its one of the few instances (1v1 alliances wars) where you can pretty much read both sides with just looking at ANS. [/quote] well between this and the post above i'll just munch popcorn from here on out.
  16. [quote name='berbers' timestamp='1356036202' post='3066377'] Funny how it wasn't an act of war when NEW aided Kaskus vs GOONS? Would have been inconvenient to call that an act of war I suppose at the time... [/quote] I actually had to go back and figure out what anyone was even talking about anymore. I assure you most of us in GOONS who were fighting wanted some kind of retaliation for NEW's repeated incursions into the Kaskus war, whether it be through blatant aid bombs or their members "resigning" and then "joining" Kaskus to fight with them. Something as simple as recognizing a state of war is more an act of committee between alliances who need to evaluate the possible outcome than something say, GOONS milcom could decide. Because there was not support for such a war, we simply had to watch as NEW sent money and soldiers to Kaskus and then money to us in repayment where we were able to prove it. There are maybe half a dozen alliances that truly control their own destiny and to call one out that has little control doesn't make much sense, as it has become par for the course here.
  17. [quote name='Haraldson' timestamp='1356003618' post='3066265'] Dangit Tan. I can no longer troll you without feeling like a jerk. [/quote] it's just a good cop bad cop routine. you at NSO are in for quite a ride here.
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