CubaQuerida

It doesn't matter which alliance took him in. CT is going to be unwelcome everywhere for the betrayal he pulled. Will alliances that align against DBDC take him in, probably. Should they expect it will end well, lol, no. Ultimately it's WTF's problem until he's cast off.

good stuff (and first?)

See all you have to do is give it time Hapa.

I would go so far as to say no one even cares, let alone help or defend. I could be wrong.

The cupcake propaganda is very strong. Apparently they didn't enjoy my comment that it resembled my war screen. That might have derailed the conversation a bit. I'm sure they'll bring it here though.

You seem to have conveniently forgotten 2-3 threads in the meantime. It's not even close to that simple. What you're describing is Ron Paul, who will get peace as soon as his wars end. To Spindoctor, let me just answer your terribly ironic post with a quote from Grub that I find strangely relevant:

Accepting a nation at war with a different alliance when you are already besieged is foolish as hell, and will ultimately prove to be WTFs downfall in all of this. It's not just any nation, either. They'd have been far better off not tarnishing their fight with such a traitorous entity but they want to win no matter the cost (and they'll tell you as much on the embassy if you can get through the whining).

afaik Starfox is not longer affiliated with NpO.

I'm SO with you on this. Though I'm quite pleased.

Not so much a tango as me dragging a lifeless body around the dance floor. How's that war strat going wtf?

Pretty sure that's what got them into this mess.

O/

No no.. let him keep going. I find it amusing to hear how we conduct business and what the real meaning is.

I'm ok with this assessment, even if it comes from Argent ;) The irony is that the person with the most objection to RP's acceptance was province of troy. It seems like the deal itself has been fulfilled exactly as worded, but it's still a deal and it was made with the assumption he wouldn't lie to Dulra and then come after us. To anyone observing, just flip the situation with your own alliance. If someone applied to your AA, and you got PMs from other AA's saying they wanted a piece of him before they'll let him go, would you not at least respond to that? If it was an alliance you didn't want to tangle with, would you not make a concession to at least stave off a direct conflict? The deal really makes plenty of sense if you consider WHY it was done, but if you just take it like CT does and say "HEY LOOK OBR IS DECLARING WAR ON WTF" and don't take anything else of context with you, yeah it's easy to make a straw argument.

Hell must indeed frozen over! All kidding aside, even the intervention by Dulra is a fulfillment of a promise and not an OBR vs WTF debate or declaration. I think it's pretty shortsighted to try to make this into something it very clearly isn't.

Yes, now instead of you, enter Dulra, who gave me the exact same oath.

I see you don't have answers for my question. Very well. I would say it's disappointing, but we all know you a little too well.

Negative. If he's still applying to the AA and they ask if we have any objections he's not "on the AA". Either way, you're still arguing semantics. What his status was at the time is irrelevant. He left OBR to come hit attack DBDC. Good for him.

Answer the questions then.

It's a rare form of due diligence. It's just not common to see. Most AA's would tell DBDC to just go fuck ourselves, and DBDC would probably just attack anyway, but we both took a diplomatic approach to it, and it was fine until 24 hours ago.

I mean if you consider declaring war at 11:57 and subsequently deleting all soldiers an "honorable" fight. I suppose you think kamikaze for the sole purpose of dropping a nuke is an honorable tactic. Ayayay, that's a stretch, even for you CT.

We wanted to attack an unaligned nation, yes. Hard to believe that occurs anywhere in the Cyberverse isn't it?

No. We wanted to hit Ron Paul when he was applying to OBR, and so we voiced objection to OBR allowing him in. As a sign of good faith, Hime promised that if Ron Paul ever did come at us from OBR, then it would be handled. Please at least read the part of my post where I said when happened. It's neither, but color me shocked you can't figure that out. Also color me shocked you have no public answer for this, Christian Trojans. Would you like me to answer my own questions for you (with screenshots) ?

And now the hypocrisy is complete. You proclaimed for days/weeks how you are attacking "Cuba" not DBDC, then when it becomes convenient to you, you switch to "I am a martyr, come join me". This is why personal grudges lead to horrible decisions. I have a question: How many PMs did you send to DBDC members asking them NOT to attack you? And how many times have you offered peace to nations you are currently warring? And finally, did you or did you not ask TBRaiders NOT to nuke you? I can at least get behind what Ron Paul is doing, though declaring on me specifically seems to reek of CT's involvement, otherwise there are plenty more viable targets to hit that won't cause ZI and a loss of 12k tech. For clarity, and I'm only going to state this once, Hime is hitting Ron Paul because DBDC wanted him dead ages ago when he left WTF to go join OBR many months ago, thinking that at some point, he would be a liability to us. Hime assured me that it wouldn't happen and said if it did, she would nuke him herself. Oddly enough, CT was the one who wanted Ron Paul dead, and so I voiced our dissent to OBR when he left WTF to join there. Here we arrive to today where the prophecy has sadly fulfilled itself, and the two align themselves together against DBDC. Unfortunately only one did it without betraying all of his friends and burning all of his bridges.

Well that is some terrible spanish! I have always considered myself a nice person, though I don't have to act like it. Seems I'm not expected to act nice, anyway! Peace is a lie.