JazHayre

I'm very disappointed with this decision. I thought you were an excellent Zenith member, someone is passionate and active on many subjects. We don't get many members like "theAut" and most of the government were happy, if not entertained, to fix after your problems. That said, I understand the problems of graduating, and the debts afterwards and I wish you well in your life.

I must add that I expected more lenient terms for TPF. Firstly, TPF made it clear that their involvement in the war depended on NPO from the beginning. They should not be held accountable for NPO dragging it's feet for so long to surrender. TPF acted honourably in keeping its word on its NPO trety. As for the idiots calling mhawk a "weak leader" and various other ridiculous claims - You are completely are utterly misguided. I've never had the opportunity to speak to mhawk, however, as far as the Zenith government has been concerned he's never been unkink or unhelpful, quite the reverse in fact. Let's not mince words here, Karma folk are bitter, that alliances, rightly or wrongly, held their honest word to honour their treaties (and friends). I understand that strict terms of NPO may have been required, but this is one of those times where alliances are being punished for honouring treaties.

Epic Flag. Congrats guys.

o/ TFoR o/ Zenith Great to see a new alliance prosper.

Good to see this and great progress for TIO

Very harsh terms. Rather surprised that NPO agreed to this. Eitherway, peace for the NPO and it's allies can only be a good thing.

Thanks to all the kind words about Zenith above. Zenith is, and will continue to be a close friend of TFoR for many years I hope.

Welcome to Planet Bob. We will do our best to keep the dogs away from your lawn.

Just like to thank you for all the hard work done at Zenith by yourself. I've heard alot of pathetic excuses in the past for leaving the alliances or the game, so I don't respond to "farewell" threads. However, I know that this is one of the most genuine reasons to leave the game. I think you deserve a "farewell". Goodbye, and good luck.

I have to admit I am completely and totally perplexed by the entire situation. This very trivial matter that has now spiralled into a bitter, teenage squabble (hormones included). Either way, I'll let those who know of this issue talk more authoritatively on it, though, Zenith honours her allies and her treaties regardless of the PR campaign against us.

That's what she said...

o/ Zenith o/ Olympus Greatly looking forward to working together.

As an external observer, it's becoming obvious that no terms will EVER be agreed. How we are on our zillioneth thread, 55+ pages I don't know - because NO PROGRESS has made. Heck its a PR battle that both sides are now losing. So lets stop dancing around the obvious point about "terms" and "harshness" - They will never get accepted. It's simply semantics, talk of people in peace mode? Won't make negotiations easier. Talk of paying for past crimes - Won't make negotiations easier. The whole saga is becoming tedious, if peace is wanted - you know what has to happen. If you don't want peace, then I would suggest reading up on VietFAN. (PS, these are not the views of Zenith)

- "I will have revenge next time"

Can I have chocolate?

o/ Zenith The finishing line is err.... Miles and miles away.

o/ House o/ Zenith Good luck with thiss guys

Peace o/ Zenith

Sorry, IS, please keep your members in line. The language used is offensive, racist and offensive. I was in shock when Rota actually posted the log yesterday. This isn't the first time anti-Semitic remarks have been made, and now anti-black. No, you deserted us, the members. Your own ego was too big to get over the fact we had to honour a treaty to TPF, which happened to be on the side of NPO. You ditched your 70 members, you alliance mates and some friends for your ego because you hated NPO more than you liked your own alliance. NPO has really done nothing wrong to Zenith, but you on the otherhand.... Essentially, in your mind treaties are things for fun?

I'm truly sorry for bumping an oldish topic; However, to this what seemed to be an honourable war is no longer: One member received messages like: <TortureTreatment[iS]> (redacted) [numbers added to make it legible through filter] As for BR, feel free to continue trolling! Your own cowardice is no excuse to condone actions like these. We have had no similar problems with PC, RAD, Argent. All of whom we enjoy a good battle with. I don't care what pathetic excuse IS might have, whatever joke, it's ultimately unprovoked and unsavoury.

That could have been said about RAD, Argent, IS, Umbrella who are declared on Zenith. I think we're outnumbered a fair few. But hey, you didn't see us !@#$%*ing! In our small part to play in this war, thanks to NADC for honourably even things out a little bit.

o/ NADC o/ Zenith Welcome to the fight!

Gotta say the Nazi comments are deplorable, though I thought the initial DOW was honourable, those actions certainly aren't.

Just thought I'd say this is quite a good pic! Even on the receiving end.

o/ Zenith Victory