Poyplemonkeys

This was one of the most painful reads of my life. Seriously, all of you shut up.

We're only 4mil NS and declared on 6mil NS. Conveniently ignoring the millions upon millions of NS also fighting that 6mil NS. Can we not pretend it's something it's not? Perhaps if you managed more wars against alliances you were declaring on they'd feel the need to call their allies in to help them

[quote name='BDRocks' timestamp='1296290877' post='2609269'] I am a joke of a fighter? Fighting 6 wars, 5 with more infra than me. 2 nuclear while I am not. Yet I have still done much much much more damage than has been done to me. [/quote] Such are the ways of fighting 6 wars with a single nation.

Shout at me if you need anything CoJ, I'll give you anything I have spare

[quote name='SirWilliam' timestamp='1296276644' post='2608638'] You're right, our victory's been assured all along. [/quote] Winning, losing, whatever side MHA joins it makes next do no difference. inb4: but you wanted them on your side you even started threads about it! others =/= me

[quote name='SirWilliam' timestamp='1296275991' post='2608582'] [img]http://profile.ak.fbcdn.net/hprofile-ak-snc4/hs426.ash2/71096_308510860574_3047679_n.jpg[/img] And boom goes the dynamite. [/quote] It almost looks like you're thinking MHA will make a difference

[quote name='Britishdude' timestamp='1296234118' post='2607527'] Surprised by the counter? Not at all. Surprised by the fact that we were under attack by VE nations and I could find a DoW nowhere? Just a tad. [/quote] Well next time don't attack their protectorate [img]http://www.otf2.com/forums/images/smilies/sorry.gif[/img] A state of war between your alliances existed the moment you did that, VE don't have to officially recognise it to respond to it.

A state of war existed between the two from the moment KoH hit their protectorate, per their treaty. The declaration is merely a formality, and an unnecessary one at that, that everyone seems to go crazy about if it's missing. Obviously if you're starting a war like VE did it's good to get the declaration out there because it allowed them to state clearly their intent and their reasons and give them a soap box to sway anyone who may have been on the fence, but in situations like this? Why even bother, you know if you declare on a VE protectorate that VE will be attacking you back, I doubt KoH was surprised by the counter.

[quote name='The Catalyst' timestamp='1296226433' post='2607421'] looks like someones been bitten by the jelousy bug and yes i know i cant spell [/quote] You can't spell, you evidently can't read and you appear to have problems with logic. Attention is as simple as creating a one man AA and declaring war over and over again when your feeling a particular craving. I just sat on my one man AA doing nothing for a month or so. Really supports your theory.

[quote name='Dr Beefstupid' timestamp='1296212929' post='2607276'] Actually, believe it or not, this wasn't an attempt at attention. I legitimately want more opponents and thought maybe I could get it this way. Maybe there should be a black market forum for wars. [/quote] Or you could join their IRC channel and ask their MoD to assign you as a target. Hasn't worked for me so far though, maybe I should post a callout thread

Godwin's law of Cyber Nations: As an event continues the probability Methrage will try and make it about himself approaches 1.

[quote name='Stormsend' timestamp='1296168412' post='2606217'] Come on, give us some credit. We're not going to recycle your tactics. [/quote] Why not? It's working for you so far...

[quote name='Lamuella' timestamp='1296139203' post='2605531'] actually, my point was that they aren't declaring enough wars at all. [/quote] Wait, let me check a second. Yep, that is actually what I said. Beating enough of our lower nations =/= beating our lower nations enough

[quote name='Beefspari' timestamp='1296104812' post='2604571'] Anarchying a few under 30k nations isn't going to win any wars dude. [/quote] GOONS member A: Beating on our lower nations won't win you the war, you suck! [quote name='Lamuella' timestamp='1296138468' post='2605522'] Your coalition as a whole has 136 nations below 5k, and 68 between 5k and 10k. You outnumber us at every level as there are 100 more of you in war mode than there are of us. It should be technically possible for every single member of your coalition to find a target and be well supported. The failure is not one of numbers but of ability. [/quote] GOONS member B: You're not beating enough of our lower nations, you suck!

[quote name='Lamuella' timestamp='1296073637' post='2603160'] following on from some recent hilarity on IRC: [img]http://i55.tinypic.com/35danfp.gif[/img] [/quote] Thank you for this

Aw don't make WF surrender yet Argent took all of the fun first time round so I've barely even started my world tour!

Yeah, I said in the very thing you've quoted it's not going to work unless something drastic changes, but you cannot deny it's the best option they have available to them really?

Uh, yeah you did. This may be called a 'white peace' but it's not actually white peace. You surrendered to RnR and agreed to their term(s). Not even a whirling dervish could spin out of that.

Kind of weird people saying GOONS isn't the weak link in Doomhouse. I mean, all of the stats objectively prove the fact that GOONS is least capable of dealing out damage of the Doomhouse alliances and it will take the least time to render them incapable of standing on their own two feet (although this is mostly irrelevant due to aidfalls) so they most definitely are the weakest link. Sure, they're far from weak, but it makes absolute sense to target them initially. All the while maintaining some modicum of control over the wars in the upper tier with their peace tactics. MK and Umbrella will rip through that upper tier like a wrecking ball, any kind of control they can gain over that should be grasped at with both hands. It's not going to work in the end unless something changes, but there's clear reasons for every decision they've made and people being deliberately obtuse about it isn't going to make them think 'Hey, they're mocking us! Suicide charge now!!!' So can we give it up and just watch what's going to be quite an intriguing battle?

Wait just a minute. You're declaring on Nueva Vida in [i]defence[/i] of Sparta?

Wow, Zog's getting all feisty up in here I had hoped for Spartan skulls to be crushed after the contempt they showed for your treaty with them, but hey, this is pretty great too. Kick ass Nordreich.

[quote name='Hombre de Murcielago' timestamp='1295840201' post='2595345'] I felt the same way [IMG]http://imm.io/media/3k/3kH9.jpg[/IMG] [/quote] Bravo sir, bravo.

[quote name='Quinoa Rex' timestamp='1295931440' post='2598458'] So let me get this straight and all. You're trying to argue that since we're afraid of losing our power to Pacifica, we're risking it all by declaring war on them? Makes [i]perfect[/i] sense. [/quote] Risking That was a good one... You were so afraid of risks you refused to get involved in the NEW situation, a war they declared to get their revenge just as you have here, claiming it was unjustified. You were too afraid to actually do something about your fear and paranoia until you had this smokescreen of a war going on first. Cowards is pretty accurate yeah.

[quote name='Stumpy Jung Il' timestamp='1295930584' post='2598347'] OOC: Also, I believe this is the first truly IC war reason. I hope to see this war rapidly expand to all of Bob. [/quote] 'This game is boring' is the very definition of an OOC war reason. Unless you've dropped that pretense within a page of this thread...

[quote name='Xiphosis' timestamp='1295933216' post='2598750'] Says the man who invented preempting. [/quote] Oh yeah, I forgot that completely nullified his point