Son of Taeper

[quote name='bcortell' timestamp='1284710257' post='2456479'] Though I think that would have been a good fight, their partner wasn't OP. [/quote] Like I said, it was just a guess based on this thread, the quotes therein, and my memory from past rounds. I should also add that when I used the term "we", I was referring to we the round players not in the know and not "we" as in LE. I'm pretty sure many people know who the partner was (including LE management).

[quote name='Owney OSullivan' timestamp='1284679734' post='2456110'] ...... Also, if you knew who our original target was going to be you wouldn't even be suggesting that. In fact, attacking that alliance can be considered the very furthest thing from infra hugging imaginable. But due to the actions of someone else we weren't able to attack them. I can see how someone might come to that conclusion from the outside looking in bcortell, but it really isn't the case. [/quote] [quote name='StevieG' timestamp='1284689362' post='2456214'] Dude, we backed out because our partner backed out. Nothing against them either, they just decided to go another way. And we couldn't disappoint our members with standing them down again. Did you really expect us to go one on one with LE? We love a good war, but that would just be suicide. Maybe LE should have attacked all of us earlier, then we all would have had the war we wanted. [/quote] Well, I guess quote two clears up the question raised in quote one. We can only guess who the partner was but I recall a few Duckroll members being in OP the last few rounds so maybe there is some sort of tie-in there. BTW, nice sig StevieG. I'm sure I've seen that statement before.

[quote name='SoADarthCyfe6' timestamp='1284089718' post='2448463'] Yes much better, but it is still 2 1/2 days late (as you stated) however it will suffice. Now, off to battle some more we will go! [/quote] -------------------------------------- 9/7/2010 11:45:24 PM "Hello" Arrakis Ruler: MuadDib Kodiak Corps Aztec Empire Ruler: Javier360 Global Anarchy And Terror Organization Currently Fighting ------------------------------------ Come on guys this war is a few days old now. The DoW is nice but no surprise to anyone. Enjoy the fight by all means but I could have told GATO they were under attack 2 days ago only I figured they saw the attacks coming in and had 12 hours to wake up first.

[quote name='memoryproblems' timestamp='1284090275' post='2448475'] How about I deliver the Warriors at your door step and give you something worth complaining about? You didn't get curb-stomped by an alliance three times your size, you got beat solidly by an alliance that was pretty much equal your size and numbers. 1. Its TE, very few if any wars actually have what would be construed as valid CB's in the other realm. 2. Wars are about the element of surprise, had a DoW been posted, it would have been posted to coincide with the beginning of Kodiak Corps attacks. 3. Like you said, either way you wouldn't have been around to see the DoW in time to effectively prepare for it, so what difference does it make. I do appreciate your praise of my leadership abilities though You keep telling me that my logic fails, yet you provide the most illogical of reasons as to why. Like I've iterated before, before the attacks began, GATO and Kodiak Corps were very similar in size and members. It wasn't like somebody with twice the NS came out and beat on you, it was a good-matchup, but Kodiak Corps used timing, coordination and activity to gain the decisive victory. Are you upset that the mechanics of war didn't work well with your lack of preparation or activity? Seeing as how Kodiak Corps have you by the throat, maybe your continual whining isn't the best way to shake this war off, bring it to an amicable end and allow yourself to walk it off and start preparing for the future. [/quote] Going ever so much off topic I would like to point out that this guys AV looks like me I'm not allowed to smoke indoors so it cannot be me. He does have my hair though and even my shirt. He looks like he has my attitude as well which is quite scary.

[quote name='Burning Glory' timestamp='1283723612' post='2443020'] Thats because the admin is cracking down on you rebels, lol Really though it is hard keep this from happening when the guy turtles even if you have cash and the ability to keep attacking. When someone turtles on me, half the time I just stop attacking because its a bore to hit someone not fighting back especially when it just cost me cash for troops and tanks when i get nothing in return...No cash or very little and no tech means me not wasting my time and money to kill something/someone already dead. However every now and then I just feel the blood lust and destroy...destroy!....Destroy!!!! muhaaaaaa BG. PS* GREAT WAR LE, definitely one to remember [/quote] Admin like us in a quiet sort of way I'm sure. One air is my favored option if I like the guy (and have the air). You were starting to sound like Zaraki at the end of your post, have you ever had the pleasure of waring with him?

DoW timing could swing it even if it were non update but the planning would take a while and the risk factor is high hence most dec over update. I'm sure most war planners would agree that you need to know your enemy but the update is tops when it comes to ease.

BG has a good point as in it is the players that make the general rules of engagement. Between update and 15 mins before is the norm. Cutting it to 6 mins before calls for tight planning if the DoW is to be in place. If the DoW is after the event (effectively the next day) there can be little point in posting it imo.

I believe the last warning I had was last round. I had troops to kill but the guy turtled. He had zero troops so I couldn't GA, and I had zero cash and zero tech so I couldn't air or GA. I had sent peace countless times but the guy was asleep. The crazy thing was that I got the warning about 2 hours before the war was due to expire. I don't recall seeing a game update on slot filling but it does seem crazy that one can get a warning for rule violation when there is nothing one can do about it

[quote name='bibliophile' timestamp='1283624094' post='2441561'] TPC thanks you. My only complaint is that you filled his slots before I could get on and get at him! o/ LE [/quote] If your raid rules are anything like ours we just denied you guys 3 extra war slots by attacking a guy that was attacking you guys On the slot rent issue I believe 48 hours is the norm. There is the danger one will get a slot fill warning from moderation if it is allowed to persist much beyond that time.

As Fish pointed out, all tech raids on TPC, MCXA, and of course LE will be defended for the next 7 days. I can assure any wannastab alliances that it is being monitored pretty much 24/7 Edit- http://tournament.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=1000461 Attack on TPC

[quote name='Burning Glory' timestamp='1283464542' post='2439527'] Thanks SoT, for who we have active were doing ok.....a bunch of our normal active peeps has stressed that with the start up of college they are unable to do the update attack and some are not even waring at all. This makes it hard for coordinating attacks with the ones who are active,lol. you guys use the same tactics we do, well except for the sanction part...So it's nice to see how my active guys are doing against similar tactics. I will say that of all the times we have fought against each other and together, this is LE's best and your coordination and planning not only shows, it paid off. Salute to that! I'm very anxious to see the end war results:D BG. [/quote] Nice point on the college scenario. I recall I brought this up on our boards prior to blitz when we were also suffering from a low signup count. It is assumed that all members fight as it's a war game. It is also assumed that this is taken into consideration with war plans. ( thanks Roan ) The deeper into a round we go the more intel is gathered but some guys get around this (on all sides) Certain names are known to be active round on round so they need taking out quickly. Certain names are also Uber Active and they need to be dispensed quick as you like.. Bottom line is that I think TPC planned the counters very well, not the sort of mish mash knee jerk stuff that loses wars.

[quote name='Owney OSullivan' timestamp='1283487890' post='2439911'] Hmm, so only 3 days of war? Also I don't recall any TE alliance officially admitting defeat in one of these threads, was it a requirement for peace? Just curious. Hope you guys had fun. [/quote] Good point. I don't recall ever seeing a dec of defeat in the 12 odd rounds I've been playing. White peace is the norm. A big statement from a big alliance but the biggest thing perhaps is the round leader posting it. Much respect to ADude. The PS attacks are always sweet (unless you are on the receiving end) but like any alliance, (LE included) they tend to have weak spots. Probing the weak spots of an alliance is fun but requires co-ordination which is often hard in the first few days of war. Just my view on it.

Edit Double post

Snip** [quote name='Burning Glory' timestamp='1283386697' post='2438650'] Look at it like this; would it be better to have a 100 nations at 500 NS each giving you 50,000 total NS or better to have 50 nations at 1000 NS....Anyone who picks the 100 option should not be playing TE. So you see probably 50% or close to it of RE is not even able to war due to not having enough NS to declare on the higher NS of PS and crew. Besides, I feel sorry for any alliance that had to war with PS [/quote] **Snip The whole post is well worth a read to anyone that never read it as some of the bits I cut out had me ROFLOA I'm sure BG would not take offense that I cut a few bits out for clarification. Truth is, from my days in LE Cadet, 5 good troops is better than 100 bad troops. That said, LE war with PS a few rounds back showed that it can be turned around with co-ordination and numbers .... (no disrespect to PS there) I never brought a nation in that was not prepared to fight and I never willingly subjected our recruits to that threat. The NS never mattered, it was always about getting more fighters in, and letting them enjoy the game, but only fighters regardless of NS. I would be happy to fight alongside any LE member and expect they trust me enough to know we have each others back. Edit -King James XVIII seems to have a good attitude to TE, we appear to have missed him on recruitment

I shouldn't do commentary after last round but in the absence of a commentator...... TPC appear to have some very nice counters. Co-ordination in the main was superb from my viewpoint. The sleeping giant has been awoken!

Bring The Noise and also the German Empire. ..... not sure if I could get away with that comment in RL

[quote name='Roi Loup' timestamp='1283296267' post='2437531'] weird.. i dont remember attacking him at all.. i didnt attack anyone anarchied even maybe its those mods again [/quote] I'm sure moderation have a hard enough task trying to decipher the context in which they perceive ones posts are made and act upon the almighty judgement that is thrown down by themselves. Rub them up the wrong way and I'm sure one will join the ranks of the deeted that we all miss.

PS are not renowned for fighting down imho. Truth is, I don't think any alliance could get away with it. Individual members of any alliance could choose that option on defense, but on attack we follow round leader rules. A round leader would not choose an opponent that was way too much an easy target and expect to get away with it. Sure, we will always get attacked by nations larger than ourselves, but the round leader looks at the whole package and makes it work for his alliance, and some alliance members should be prepared to go into A to make the package work..

Been a good few rounds since we all got together. I'm hurting really bad in my wars but enjoying losing for some reason. I've not seen that for many a round. A happy fighter is an active fighter and we need active fighters in TE.

I had meant to skip this round but as Fish points out, it has been a good few months in the pipeline and it was a chance to meet up with some of our original members (not to mention war), so I kind of got sucked in. TPC had every measure of build rate to hand as would be expected, some very nice zooms that may have caught a few of our newer members out as well It will be interesting to see the stats in a few days time when TPC has had a chance to re-group.

[quote name='King Ernie' timestamp='1283018708' post='2433968'] This seems like the best alternative, turtles take up slots, which in turn makes the game less fun. The war should end by a certain number of Defeat alerts, then the defeated nation shouldn't be abel to declare war for a certain period of days (greater than that of normal anarchy). I like it. [/quote] Have to admit I had a turtle/inactive nation last round and when I could no longer hit him I got an in-game warning for suspected slot filling (about 8 hours before the war was due to expire). The guy had zero troops and I had zero air and not enough tech to buy cruise, so it was hardly slot filling imo. Not sure where the slot fills originate but a better option might be to allow infra to be stolen immediately after the first defeat message has gone out. That would free moderation up if it were coded into the game. I'm a great supporter of bringing new guys to the game, but some experienced players just work the turtle option and it seems fairer to my mind to remove the option. Edit; Good point though Clash, but I think the game needs players.

[quote name='Clash' timestamp='1282837558' post='2431771'] That's happened to me but only when the other nation attacks me before I can attack them, and my troops returned home from the deploy. Did you deploy a lot? When you have few troops remaining on defense, it's obviously easier for the attacking nation to score big. Your deploy returning home means you don't get anarchied at least. [/quote] No. My deploy was close to the limit not not on it. I deployed before I declared as I had some other raids on the boil that were inactive (and not accepting my peace) so I knew I could do a deploy without risk.

[quote name='Crazy Crazy' timestamp='1280240309' post='2391184'] We never said that no one outside of our alliance has honor. I can think of plenty, Nemesis, Dark Fist, Asgaard, etc. but few are held to honor with no alternative. I am sure that every alliance has honor however, all of them also can escape a treaty and leave their ally out to dry as well. By our charter we cannot. We publicly hold ourselves to a higher standard as you can see by our rules and policies. It is not about who does/doesn't have honor. It is about which alliance will never have anything but honor. Maybe you should refer back to everything I have said on the OWF, in this thread, our DoE, charter, etc. that way next time you post something about Honour, it won't be about an insinuation which is nothing but a personal perspective observation. Base your next observation on fact, not false ASSumptions. [/quote] I wasn't going to post as 10 posts in succession by the same person seemed enough to keep the topic live but I just felt I had to point a bit out. Hate to be the spell check police but the spelling of the word "Honour" is now different in your sig and your post context. It's always a giveaway in war games but you seem to have cornered the market and kept them guessing there

Been playing since round 2 and never had a problem with my deploys but I've had 2 in 2 days now. Problem is, I deploy against a nation with stacks of troops, declare on them, then find my deploy was zero.

[quote name='king of cochin' timestamp='1239772594' post='1414159'] OOC: My RP strategy is too rooted on geography!!! Starting with the very name of the Kingdom!!!! How can i possibly establish a Kingdom of Cochin in Africa!!!! [/quote] Good point. Been a long time my friend. I'd all but forgotten your name but some just stick in ones mind. Geography is lost on some though. You're a good ambassador for Cochin but a link out in your sig would be nice.