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really? the first DoW is below yup, that's when the forums were down for sure!

fail DoW is fail. 'tis ok, I watched the war screens, I know you only pulled an NPO and posted this LONG after you started attacking. Why you even bothered I don't know.

I'm so beating Owned-You to it (sorry Owned-You but I wanted to do this to)

finally... welcome fellow orange. It's gonna be fuuuuuuuunnnnn.

Oh snap, did we just do that. My nooks will light up the nations of my foes. Don't worry, I'll take 'em out to the bar afterwards.

how did we not see this before? anyway, welcome to the sphere. Come stop by the Lodge at square-n-compass.net and say hi.

perhaps, but how many anti-\m/ are not polar, how many anti-polar are not \m/, or PC for that matter? in other words what are the opinions of those not fighting? Answer that question to see what the public thinks.

wouldn't it make more sense that it grew to this size because people don't like \m/ and want to bash \m/? If everybody hates you as you seemingly claim that they would love to talk about how much they hate you.

ah, now I really have it. It wasn't Hizzy that actually said that, it was zzzptm. here's the full quote see NV isn't allied to the 57th, they're allied to us who are allied to the 57th. their treaty with us means that they support us. we asked for their help and they delivered perfectly. The feeling is that this war was stupid and just a case of bad timing. Nobody really wanted to see this escalate. Had it been better timing I don't think you'd find the whole tip of the tail thing being said. I don't think any of NVs treaties bother them. If they did NV would cancel it.

see the end of your post shows that you didn't actually listen to me but I think I actually see where you're getting lost. So let me lay out a scenario for you. You have friends that are in a stupid war. You think the war is stupid. You have a treaty with them because they're your friends. Do you help them even if you think the war is stupid? I hope your answer is yes if it is then do you then cancel that treaty after the war because you shouldn't have to fight when your friends do something stupid? no, because that's the point of the treaty. To save your friends when they're getting pounded whether for a stupid reason or not. They're your friends.

no hizzy, clearly NV and AZTEC would never support small alliances. It's not like a member of AZTEC is smaller than the 57th... oh wait

you didn't listen to me did you... they provided what they were asked to provide... so hard to get I know

are you insane? NV was more than ready to back us in any means that we needed. we needed diplomatic aid, they provided, and the war is over. OOC: honestly this is what I get for reading the OWF

really people? 1. if you're going to quote Kodiak at least do it right. mmk? 2. Kodiak is no longer in 57th gov. gee that isn't for any reason right? 3. no u 4. nobody won. it was a war that was supposed to happen in a greater conflict, the greater conflict ended right as this war was kicked off, this war should have ended immediately before any of BCs allies jumped in on the 57th. it didn't because 57ths leader wasn't online and Kodiak wasn't left instructions cause who honestly saw the WWE ending last night? if you weren't in the know you would have never guessed it. 5. obligatory bawing 6. profit

as much as I like war, this is good to see

and shilo sums it up quite nicely

you are free to cancel your treaty as you feel needed... not that hard... BUT, with such little evidence why did you just cancel after 72 hours like you told MASH you would?

this is fair for a treaty cancellation. But not for the way that they have been treated by Athens in this thread. Such a mockery over something that, by 90% of the evidence, appears to false is no way to treat somebody you were just friends with. Also, the apparent lie to them about the cancellation reason and timing is just in poor taste. I would expect better from any alliance outside of the microsphere.

went turncoat? oh you mean having their other allies talk to them about what was happening after Athens DoWed? totally turncoat...

forget everything else you posted. You seem to agree with the above statement George. Which was said in this context which, for those following at home, means that TPF was at war with you by technicality during the Karma war and you were at war with them. This makes any spy attempts made during this time an act of war in a war that was already happening. When they surrendered they made peace with all of Karma, not just those in direct combat. When you exited the war you did the same thing with the entire hegemony. Thus yours, RoKs, and GODs DoWs are all in breach of the peace terms laid out after the Karma war, as every single DoW is from actions taken during the Karma war. \m/ is exempt as they didn't exist during the Karma war. breaking peace terms ftw.

you know what my favorite part is? He thinks he's got you cause of your current nations age. But he doesn't actually look at it. Like how your about section says that you're back. Or how you have an efficiency of over 200. Honestly, you've grown your nation crazy fast, but that's clearly a sign that you know NOTHING about this game... lulz

well I knew that you didn't do the whole thing. After all, it's still comprehendible. Nevertheless the random rawrs gave you away.

you are cruel

sigh... Kat, I should have known you wrote this upon first glance... Congrats on the treaty AiD!

ok next question... TPF clearly was working towards bringing down Athens, even if the attempt to do so ended before they surrendered. And, sure RoK is allied to Athens, so they could go in with them, but that's not the reason stated: Now really... I would expect better from Hoo in this. RoK being like GOD and \m/ and attacking to back up their ally would be far more acceptable than this CB. Athens has shown that steps were actually taken against Athens, so while Athens apparently lives in some crazy world where time does some weird things, they still have something. RoK has that their name was brought up and... well... that's it. It seems that they were mentioned in the planning stages but then discarded and all effort went towards Athens. Now, is there a single leader on Bob willing to say that they don't look at multiple options when preparing military action?