Felix von Agnu

The intent behind that part was not as a loophole, just a way of stating that if one party attacks the other, that the Pact was THEN null and void. It was not there due to either malice nor incompetence. People see what they want, I'm sorry you're so fueled by hatred that you've turned paranoid as well. EDIT: Yeah, I agree with Jbone. Fark this treaty.

Breaking the NAP would involve attacking us (or one of our allies), as it clearly did. It doesn't mean you just say "We break it" and then you can be all honorable in your little farce of a declaration. I'm glad to know PC are such honorable people, and stand by their word. And since I know some PC knuckleheads will come in and try to argue this, I'll ask this, what if it were the other way around? We all know you'd be screaming foul.

Us. Go get them NEW. Its an honor to fight with you.

Lets rumble GR. Here's to a good fight! o/

Zenith, I couldn't ask for any better allies than you. It'll be an honor to fight alongside you guys.

You don't get out of facing me this easy Trashcat. I will find you.

Ride on my Bad Friend, ride on.

Good luck TGR. I hope the new gov works out for you.

Ooooooooooooooooooh No! Defending NPO GOGO SHURUZILLA!

Why do you think I'm breaking it out now?

I'm breaking out the man-thong for this one.

Would melting an avalanche lead to a tidal wave? I'll bring my swimming suit just in case.

No problem. Glad to help out.

If GR wants to bring in more friends, fine. I don't know how many of our allies will join in, if any at all, but only time will really tell that. Now if you will excuse me, I have other pressing matters. (OOC: Logging in from work ftl)

Did you not read the second post? I believe mhawk explained it there.

Avalance: Appetizer GR: Will come along and be the first course. When you're starving you dont just gorge yourself on food. Moderation, my friend.

I get the feeling we'll be seeing GR in a bit anyways.

The Phoenix wants an appetizer.

Come Karma, we are awaiting our judgement, don't let us down. Mhawk, its damn nice to have you back. o/ Mhawk

You have my sword, mhawk. I told you I'd have your back, and I will keep my word as well. It'll be an honor to die among friends.

I'll make one last attempt at clarifying, since arguing with you is like playing tennis against a wall. Eventually I get tired of the wall bouncing back the arguments with more insane reasons, clearly twisting what I was saying. Okay by me: Asking for info. Keeping it to themselves. Not Okay by me: Asking for info, then sharing it with the other side. I was originally speaking in hypotheticals, seeing as I was unsure of the situation. Also, if we so choose, the $20 in the hands of the enemy could be worthless, information can change, we choose a different course of action. If I have to explain the quote, "If you loan a friend $20, and then never see him again, you're both better off" any arguement made here will be above your understanding as well. Now, I will bid you adieu.

Wow, you have somehow taken a simple difference of opinion and greatly distorted it. I said that I had no problem with LoSS asking for info about a potential situation. I then said that as long as LoSS didn't spread that knowledge around, it would continue to be fine. If LoSS decided to spread the information around, it could be argued that they were spying. So, allow me to answer the question directly. No. There was no attempt at repairing relations, but Jaaku could have been a lot more up front than he was. Demanding info as an ally, and then dropping the treaty 5 minutes later does not really show that he thought of TPF as the friend he claimed we were in the OP. In fact demanding anything as an ally before dropping a treaty is much like loaning a friend $20 and never seeing them again. We're better of over all, but still out $20. Seriously? At what point did I say anything remotely like that? Mhawk has my full trust, as leader of TPF, and as a friend.

I see his opinion, and I am not changing mine. I didn't realize the time frame was so short, but I still stand by my opinion. I will say that jaaku could have gone about it better, but that's about it. I think I'll keep my opinion as I said it though.

As I said, I haven't been around much these past few weeks, so I didn't really read through the whole thread. >_> I was merely offering my own personal opinion.

Then I don't see the fuss with them asking for information.