Leetopia II

Grats guys

Yeah, ghost an alliance I was kicked out of, surely they'd have sent me some aidz then!!! That would have gone back to the point of having no money to pay bills, bill lock, and inevitable deletion. Anyways, it wasn't for lack of trying on my part. I was kicked out for going nuclear on TOP, and after they gave Echelon white peace I did seek to come back to fight the superfriends with Echelon (since at the time I was still being attacked by them too, obviously). But they said no, so after another week or so I surrendered.

I was already kicked out of Echelon, so how exactly is surrendering at that point being a coward? Don't even try to judge me when you don't know any of the details.

Sure, but if you have no money and bills that are half a mil, how exactly is collecting 0 dollars going to help? I'm not going to go into the whole politics involved in the surrender, but it wasn't for my sake I'll put it that way. If you're ZI, yeah it kinda does.

And I don't give a flying $%&@ what someone who barely fought in the war thinks of me or what I did to avoid being deleted.

Are you on crack or are you just retarded? GOD attacks NPO, Echelon defends an ally, Echelon started the war? Yeah, okay, maybe in bizzaro world that would make sense.

Even in that case the terms fail. GOD declared on Echelon, not the other way around. Not to mention this isn't even trying to account for past actions, as they've never had conflict between each other in the past.

Blitz/Caffine sucks and should be erased from the game imo

lol trust the karma alliances many of the same alliances that fought by their sides in past great wars, that have turned on them and now want them gone. yeah, they're really going to trust you guys. karma really loses all meaning when it's being administered by people that reaped just as much rewards as they did in the past. you're just as guilty as they are

Great song, Dr. Horrible was awesome

I've seen this guy in the Echelon IRC channel in the past looking for 42k NS nations to spy on him... He was even offering 3 mil to the people that'd do it. I guess it was to protect from people gathering info on him, but still, this is a ridiculous series of events.

Thanks for the PM spam >.<

Um, I was still technically at war with you guys (at least you guys seemed to think so after continuing to attack me AFTER I left Echelon). So what is it, was I still at war with karma or not? If I was then I surrendered, if I wasn't then it's your fault for attacking me and giving me that idea. Also, it's not my problem if someone wanted to do a deal with someone that was clearly fighting in a war (with war slots full). I don't intend for them to get in trouble, but I'm not going to go out of my way to protect someone from doing something they probably shouldn't if it's so obvious. Oh, and I didn't "just leave" echelon for that deal, I'd been out of echelon for a while and joined up days later only to ditch tech raiders and go into peace mode. Had absolutely nothing to do with the war or anything.

...TOP

Well considering the people I'm dealing with are the people that I went rogue on I'd say things are fine.

Actually I'm quite fine with (some) reps, if need be. This was just merely needed so I could continue to exist. If you actually bothered to look at my nation you'd see I couldn't fight anymore, even if I wanted to. Edit: and if you really want to complain about stuff then look at all the PoW's actually buying tech. I fought until I couldn't fight anymore, and now I'm simply looking to stabilize myself. There are tons of real cowards out there that didn't want anything to happen to their precious nations and went to hide in the safety of the PoW AA. So I have no shame in what I'm doing, and the PR that might result from this has no relevance to Echelon since I've not even actually been a member for a few weeks now. So my situation "in the alliance" was unique. I could go on, but what's the point, no one would care anyways.

I couldn't do a tech deal until I surrendered

I surrender to Karma

Nice edit there. I think it's fair though, you want payback from past wars, well we could give back all the tech we've ever gotten from wars. Buuuuut you guys wouldn't be happy with only a couple thousand tech, now would you? We're less than half the size we were back then, a lot of the people that benefited from those wars are long gone, and "karma" comes knocking on the doors of people that had nothing to do with it looking for exorbitant reps. You're welcome to keep trying your offers, but they aren't going to accept something ridiculous.

Funny how no one chooses to remember this, yet still jump on the "omg u betrayed NpO!!!1" bandwagon any chance they get.

TSO/TOP wanted white peace from day 1, anything "they" might have been seeking in the terms they walked out of was not written by them. So if anything was going to be offered to TSO/TOP it's just going to be rolled into the specialfriends terms now. Anyways, I can guarantee that Echelon won't accept terms that are over and above anything they've ever been paid, which is next to nothing. So the maroons can keep waiting.

Yes

I'll join as a seller

If anyone out there needs another seller for a quick 2x2 or 3x3 deal send me a PM

Well not like I don't want to see you guys succeed, but you should have cleared up the war matter entirely before even doing this. You can't just say "oh I'll finish this fight and then switch", you need to actually get peace first.