Thank you. And I am not trying to say NpO's views are necessarily wrong, I believe you really do think you're doing the right thing. But it's not the path I would choose, and I think it's not the path my alliance would choose. If an alliance is getting curbstomed and they really didn't do anything to deserve it, the community should act. But if it's their own fault, or if they really can handle it themselves, we should just let them do it on their own.