StevieG

[quote name='Matt Miller' date='05 July 2010 - 03:08 PM' timestamp='1278295676' post='2359883'] SW, thank you for confirming yet another lie from the mouth of Ramirus when he said that [b]all[/b] of CnG had given their official support of their proposed amendment to the ESA. I'm left wondering who if any have actually given their support. [/quote] Its beyond a joke really.

If at first you dont succeed, try and try again. Good luck to the GGA

Um, maybe looking for admission of guilt, etc, that you are looking to get amended into the ESA, should have instead been brought for discussion some three months ago as opposed to looking for unconditional surrender. I cant say for certain that it would have been accepted, but maybe what the most of the world has been harping on at you about was right. You should have actually asked for what you wanted in a Peace agreement instead of looking for silly conditions such as the demilitarization of IRON prior to you accepting their unconditional surrender. And no further explanation! Its just so simple really.

[quote name='Kryievla' date='24 June 2010 - 08:03 PM' timestamp='1277362964' post='2348559'] Congratulations on reaching a most excellent milestone. [/quote] May we continue to reach many more milestones together

\o/ DUCKROLL

Heres to another thousand days. Damn Ill be old if im still here

Gratz FAR. Good to see a small alliance growing strong.

\o/ Duckroll

[quote name='Believland' date='21 June 2010 - 05:12 AM' timestamp='1277050358' post='2343820'] Yeah, they lost to Paraguay I have France, Portugal and Brazil. I really pay no attention to anyone, save for US, NK and Paraguay. I know France is doing badly but how is Portugal doing? [/quote] Actually they drew with paraguay. Portugal drew their opening game with the Ivory coast. They probably shaded it.

I pity those who have Italy

Ok, nevermind. 2 0 to the Netherlands

If its not too late ill take Denmark. they havent played their first game yet. Is that ok?

[quote name='OsRavan' date='07 June 2010 - 12:30 PM' timestamp='1275866999' post='2326932'] Great job TORN and StevieG in particular! I can say that I was very impressed with the spirit and organization that TORN approached this. They made it quick, easy, and good spirited. And again, StevieG was real impressive in organizing everything. So i'm glad to see you guys get done with this and turn the page. [/quote] Thank you. Working with you for ODN, and the others for IAA was a pleasant enough experience, and allowed us to carry out our obligations in speedy fashion.

[quote name='SpectreTehDestroyer' date='07 June 2010 - 05:32 AM' timestamp='1275841923' post='2326375'] Well congrats TORN. As a side note, CloudGT4 isn't in the game anymore. [/quote] We heard he is appealing, so just gave him the medal anyways.

31st the last payment was made. It would have been earlier if not due to some speedbumps, and game engineered slot availability. We did employ outside sellers, however.

[center][img]http://torn.sharuntech.com/TORNflagfull.gif[/img][/center] The Order of Righteous Nations has fulfilled its obligations under the Easter Sunday Accords and has completed its reparations on the 31st of May 2010. We would like to take this opportunity to thank our great friends over Valhalla for helping us pay off much of this debt. I'd also like to thank TMF, MXCA, and especially Olympus for helping us with the indirect portion of our reps. Without you guys we certainly could not have completed our obligations as quickly as we did. I would also like to recognize the efforts of OsRavan, Draeg28, and Voodoo, which made our task run smoothly and efficiently. [img]http://torn.sharuntech.com/medals/General-HonoraryMemberMedal.png[/img] Finally, in conjunction with his efforts in coordinating "Project Duckbilled" on our behalf it is my distinct honor to award our Honorary Membership medal to CloudGT4 of Valhalla. [img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v113/MythicK/reaction3.gif[/img] /s/ [b]Lord Curzon[/b], Triumvir of Foreign Affairs [b]SinisterCanuck[/b], Triumvir of War [b]StevieG[/b], acting Triumvir of Internal Affairs [b]Bigwoody[/b], Dear Leader [b]His Royal Thickness[/b], TORN Thickführer [b]AddictedAffliction[/b], Torn Representative

[quote name='Mathias' date='30 May 2010 - 08:42 PM' timestamp='1275205315' post='2316467'] At first I wondered how GPA would feel about this thread, then I realized they'd probably be neutral on the subject. Seriously though, good work Sal. [/quote] LOL Also, good work and good read

Congratz, and heres to many more years!

[quote name='Lord Brendan' date='26 April 2010 - 03:32 AM' timestamp='1272205955' post='2274288'] Any of those three alliances (except NSO, they probably don't have much of an upper tier at the moment) could swing the war completely in IRON's favor. [/quote] And subject themselves to a beatdown due to not only the majority of their friends being in terms. I fail to see where you are going with this as it seems you are taking it further and further off course. Dont even know what we are debating here anymore, just debating for the sake of it, it seems.

[quote name='Arthur Blair' date='25 April 2010 - 05:56 PM' timestamp='1272171398' post='2273914'] Everything I said was entirely true and every fact can be verified through public information. [/quote] Oh god, I said it was an empty statement, not an inaccurate one.

[quote name='Lord Brendan' date='25 April 2010 - 06:16 PM' timestamp='1272172560' post='2273949'] Without doing a very thorough search, at least UPN, NEW and NSO are free of restrictions. [/quote] Hence why I used "pretty much". My point still stands.

Pretty empty statement then. In addition to pretty much only neutral alliances not being under terms or on "your" side of the last war.

[quote name='Arthur Blair' date='25 April 2010 - 02:45 AM' timestamp='1272116694' post='2272964'] Our treaties with grämlins are canceled. So any alliance that didn't already surrender to us in this war, go ahead. Show me your resolve. [/quote] Do you speak for C&G Gov? Gramlins - MHA - Fark - C&G

[quote name='Fallen_Fool' date='24 April 2010 - 04:02 PM' timestamp='1272078131' post='2272681'] I believe Moridin quite adequately explained the lack of logic behind the "4750 tech is going to really hurt us!" argument, but just for !@#$% and giggles I'll go ahead and point out again that every nuke destroys a bare minimum of 50 technology, which pretty much ensures that any technology received will inevitably be destroyed. Also just going to point out that Gremlins have not launched more than 3 aggressive wars since April 3rd. Just food for thought. [/quote] And if they hadn't received that tech, then they would be 50 tech less off, limiting their damage. It doesn't matter if there arent any aggressive wars right now. When the time comes that these nations engage they will be able to cause more damage do to people sending them tech, thus indirectly damaging IRON and DAWN.

I'm going to try to use some simple logic here. All the tech that Gramlins large nations are getting through tech deals is helping to them to keep IRON and DAWN under their boot. Why? Well, IRON and DAWN large nations that are in peace mode are unable to complete tech deals while Gramlins nations are free to keep dealing. Yes the peace mode nations can still receive tech, but this requires other banks to fund the deals. Without outside help, or the large nations themselves funding it, it gets a little harder to fund. Add to the equation that Gramilins upper tier is still significantly outnumbers IRONs and DAWNs. Even adding in Gramlins dropping nations, it is still not unrealistic for IRONS and DAWNs success to feasibly require a significant amount of time without outside intervention. Now lets just say that IRON and DAWN do win the war by slowly building, engaging, rebuilding then reengaging to bring down Gramlins nations one at a time. They will then require a massive rebuilding effort and then still need to pay significant Reps to the AAs that defeated them in the previous war. Looking at all that it becomes quite clear that C&G, MHA, and their power spheres are indirectly holding IRON and DAWN in terms for a unparalleled amount of time by retaining treaties and not actively looking to "call Gramlins off". That last statement, I admit contains a little bias, but I'm sure you can see my point.