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[quote name='the rebel' timestamp='1295318900' post='2579598'] Around 19mill NS(total) vs 12mill NS (polar), pretty good odds for Polar at the moment could of been a hell of alot worse... [/quote] just wait another declaration to stagger Polar nations

[url=http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=91774&pid=2442174&st=0&#entry2442174]Battalion send them all to hell[/url]

this is a Good NEWs to White Sphere.. Congrats to both Alliances

i probably have met around 20 or 30 CN players on my alliance regular Gathering (yes, they're all my alliance members ) the gathering it self usually involved a lots of alcohol and Hookers, idk if that helped me in RL or not, but i am sure as hell thats fun

i would like to nominate FEAR and WFF for the most honorable alliances

[quote name='The HollyWood' timestamp='1293773778' post='2558990'] I was surprised that it took that many spy ops to finally get a successful gather intelligence against my nation. I mean I only had 12,000 land, it should have been easy for the nations that had 30k to run good spy ops against me. [/quote] yeah, my spies are suck, it took them almost 5 days for a successfull spy ops on your nation btw, too bad i dont see this thread earlier, your tears are delicious man...

All hail wukong the mighty NEW protector, lord of mahoism and king of all tusbol

[quote name='Zoomzoomzoom' timestamp='1293637078' post='2557337'] I'm shocked WFF didn't get peace. I thought it was well arranged last night that they had it... [/quote] i think there has been somekind of miscommunication, from my conversation with WFF member, they are supposed to get peace at the same time NEW got peace, hopefully someone will work on it soon and on topic, i would like to say thank you to Our Allies at WFF and FEAR for stand by our side even some of them may disagree with the reason we go to war, NEW owes you a lot, and to our allies at PC and iFOK for their tireless effort in helping us during the negotiation, Thank you and we thank to our foreign legionnaires for helping us against all odds, you guys are monsters.. lastly, this war cost me 12k infras, 2k++ tech, 6k miles of land, but the fun and the adrenaline rush that my opponents gave me is PRICELESS !! o/ NEW o/ WFF o/ FEAR o/ PC o/ iFOK & FOK o/ FARK to all non combatants : happy boring New year

Man, i couldn't ask for better allies.. we Owe you our souls FEAR and WFF !!

words cannot describe my feelings atm.. i will never forget this my friends Fight Hard WFF o7

[quote name='raasaa' timestamp='1292901896' post='2547463'] Much respect....takes a lot to stick to your stance even when the odds are stacked against you. But, on the other hand, you are taking a stance and fighting for the wrong reasons in my opinion. @ PC & iFOK Sorry if this has been brought up before.........What happens if NEW's other allies attack TPE/INT/FARK in defense of NEW ??? [/quote] likewise, i respect your opinion too raasaa and to your question, PC and iFOK has stated it clearly on their OP, that they would only defend NEW, not NEW allies, please cmiiw..

please don't try to spin my word, i skipped so many english class at school

[quote name='Hyperion321' timestamp='1292893370' post='2547285'] Ugh, can't we all just shut up and have a nice, term free, blood bath of a war? For old time's sake? Sheesh. [/quote] i agree with this fine gentleman, you politician think too much, the treaty web, "the side", i say $%&@ that, just fight when you have to fight not when you're on the winning side. and don't talk big game behind your castle walls, it's easy to be brave behind the castle walls.. To our allies at PC and iFOK as i told you guys on Private, it's OK i understand, dont worry. Thank you for all the effort during the negotiation we appreciate that, now leave this to us, we'll burn those !@#$%^&* alive..

let's dance ladies !!

[quote name='Locke' timestamp='1292735846' post='2543883'] You think people would realize by now that "you need a treaty to take military action" is [i]incredibly[/i] silly. If I declared that I would protect Dark Fist, I'd be perfectly within my rights to do so without any sort of connection, past or present, just as you are within your own rights to raid them. The catch is consequences; your actions have them. Consequences for defending a disbanded alliance are unlikely, but the consequences of aggressively attacking an alliance are generally more severe. That said, keep pulling these silly charades of empty justification to satisfy only yourselves so the real aggrieved parties can do something about it and get something interested started. Probably not going to happen and you'll eventually see reason, but I can still hope. [/quote] yes, call me old school but i do think it required a treaty to defend anyone. except in regards to "none" Affiliation @Azaghul : Fair Point *idk how to do a multiquote *

[quote name='SirWilliam' timestamp='1292735740' post='2543877'] The official posts, authored by Int and TPE officials, that were disregarded, made it very clear that the AA was protected. An AA is not the same thing as an alliance. Whether the alliance was active or disbanded is irrelevant, for they were protected nations nonetheless. And there's no way of getting around that simple, undeniable fact. [/quote] No, that was just a warning from one nation saying that all the raiders who raid DF will be ZI'd. Not an official INT Announcement, is it that hard to post an announcement on OWF if you were really intended to protect your friends ?!

[quote name='Zoomzoomzoom' timestamp='1292735058' post='2543847'] This is quite possibly the dumbest announcement you guys have ever made. Thank you for wasting my day and then posting this without any warning. [/quote] i am terribly sorry if this announcement offended you and Poison Clan in any way, but this is NEW stance on this issue Zoom, Nothing will change this stance, we, in NEW feel that we are in the right Position, just because DF have more friends telling us wrong on OWF does not mean that it's true. again, A sincere apologize to you

[quote name='SirWilliam' timestamp='1292734929' post='2543841'] You are. You can say they're not an alliance, which is true, but the Dark Fist AA remains, well, an AA. A protected one. That you idiots raided anyhow. GDIAF [/quote] there is no official Documents that saying Dark Fist is a protected Alliance, Dark Fist is dibanded, they're existence as a entity is no longer exist therefore we raided them..

[quote name='EgoFreaky' timestamp='1292734419' post='2543809'] I must have missed the part where they canceled their treaties.. And i think i saw a warning in the OP about attacking them albeit a vague one. Within a few posts INT stated they would defend their MDoAP partner.. So I dunno what you're grasping at but if you think you're in the right you probably should think a little harder. [/quote] there is no [u]Official Announcement from the INT regarding DF Protection[/u], however you are correct there is a warning says that any nation who raid DF will be ZI'd.

[center][IMG]http://i427.photobucket.com/albums/pp351/belum17/250px-Newflagcc3.png[/IMG][/center] Dear Citizen, In order to prevent Dark Fist Disbandment's thread into further derailment, i on behalf of Nusantara Elite Warriors (NEW) decide to post our stance on current issue, here they are : 1. All of former treaties partner of DF (alliances) were signed a formal agreement with Dark Fist as an entity/Alliance, and now that Dark Fist has disbanded themself, therefore we consider their formal treaties are null and void because at the moment there's no such thing as Dark Fist As an entity/alliance now. 2. There is No Official Protection Announcement regarding Dark Fist on OWF and since they are 10 members or below, we, in NEW consider them as a valid raid target. it's not that hard to announce such thing or put it on the Opening Post, and afterall that is all what Alliance Announcement Forum for. 3. We raided them and offer them Peace that is all. And as a sign of a good faith we will put The rest of Dark Fist member to our not to raid list, and we will even offer them a protection until they find new homes, should they need us to do so. 4. These are all tech raid, NEW members attack, did 2 GA's and offer peace, that is all. Please dont expect us to pay any reps because we will not pay any. 5. lastly, we apologize to all of our allies if this incident put them in a difficult position thank you for your time Minister of Defense Nusantara ELite Warriors -gantanX of negara ancur-

[quote name='deathcat' timestamp='1292650644' post='2542359'] GantanX.. are you going to let that stop your fun? [/quote] off course not, but game mechanics stop me from doing that

[quote name='Starcraftmazter' timestamp='1292632994' post='2542159'] Our treaties are eternal [/quote] i dont see any eternal clause on any of DF treaties, enlighten me please..

[quote name='Finnish Commie' timestamp='1292632710' post='2542151'] Farewell sweet prince. Good luck for you SCM and to your chaps. Oh and raiding them would be most badly done, regards their (now former) MDoAP partner. [/quote] why is that ? didnt all DF's treaties are considered null and void when they disband ?!

a heartfelt congratulation to you DoE, hopefully this goes better than the 1st one.. insya allah !!

I have your agenda Tyga, and you must pay me $15 Millions + 250 tech should you want it back. I expects the payment to be delivered by 11:59PM server time, the 31st of November, 2010. Should you fail to deliver, then I will interpret the deal as reneged and will respond accordingly.