merdesa

pm'd you.

You could have at least included WFF --just've dow'd VNV... I mean, there's like seven of us.

It was quite fun, I don't even know what else to say... but thanks.

[quote name='mhawk' timestamp='1293257231' post='2553363'] Out of curiosity, what would the proper course of action for a third party not at war be that was also friends with NEW? Do nothing? [/quote] Well, maybe talking to them would be helpful; maybe not go to other people to try and stop 'em from doing things.

[quote name='Emphix' timestamp='1293256335' post='2553350'] are you saying that speedy resolution is not in the best interest of NEW and WFF? [/quote] Oh no that's not what I meant; I think 3rd parties getting involved for their own interests as opposed to NEW's seems a bit underhanded. They'd not be getting peace for NEW, but themselves.

[quote name='Emphix' timestamp='1293254877' post='2553334'] This is very true. Those citing friendship and all is fine, no problems about that. Though on the other hand, we also have a bunch of people that never really care about NEW in the first place, and just want this war to escalate to be a world war, pretending to care about NEW just to satisfy that personal goal, these are the sad ones. [/quote] Or there are the ones that try to end it for not NEW but their own sake.

[quote name='Carson' timestamp='1292998427' post='2549561'] 2007 called...it wants its joke back... [/quote] WFF called.... we want you to actually fight us. And not those silly inactives like sparta did (but when they get back from holiday... surprise!).

[quote name='WalkerNinja' timestamp='1292989854' post='2549154'] It's not a haiku so much as an imitation of the exceptionally boring opening lines of this DoW: See? Spot is a dog. Dogs are good. We like dogs. We like Spot Spot runs fast. We run too. [/quote] All I wanted to say was we're DoW'ing on the two. Done. Simple. I'll be sure to reject all future DoW edits made so we don't get a review from Bobby Frost here.

[quote name='zzzptm' timestamp='1292958420' post='2548546'] A *REALLY* true ally would have told them to stand down... and if they were just as true, they would have stood down instead of dragging their friends into the fire. [/quote] NEW knew what our answer would be before they could have thought of asking us to stand down; there was really no sense for them to even bother. We can't quit them.

[quote name='AvengingAngel256' timestamp='1292912167' post='2547879'] Kudos for stepping up at least to defend them, but not fark as well? Lame. [/quote] We might as people said, have "big balls" but we don't have [i]that many[/i] balls to go around. Would you rather have us not DoW and hear the other complaints? --you kids are so hard to please!

[center][img]http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100201162159/cybernations/images/c/c7/WFF_war_flag.png[/img][/center] [center][b]A World Freedom Federation Announcement[/b][/center] Humans make mistakes. Mistakes are human. Friends stand by each other when they make mistakes. We are friends. We are NEW's friends. As all of Bob knows, the Nusantara Elite Warriors are in a state of war. They are our friends, our allies, and our brothers. We will stand by them as they would for us; we live up to our obligations. The World Freedom Federation hereby enter this Brave NEW War by declaring war on The International and The Prolific Empire. Signed for The World Freedom Federation: [b]Nord Belka Skymarshal Chazz Deputy Skymarshal Melutar Deputy Skymarshal Merdesa Deputy Skymarshal NotYou Federal Officer all Federal Officers and Citizens[/b]

[quote name='Dochartaigh' timestamp='1292907874' post='2547610'] if you were going for an analogy, it was almost entirely useless as trash is put out specifically to be picked up. DF did not disband specifically to be raided by anyone. also, selection of analogies is quite telling. most chose cars as it was something that was not offensive. equating an alliance to being garbage tends to be an insult. [/quote] Well if you're into that kinda thing, they're recyclable. I find the car analogies were flawed, because stealing a car suggests the car is owned, whereas a disbanded alliance is not owned, but quite the opposite. --And if that brings us full circle to their protection status, well I can say personally I own the car, but without proper papers it's just talk. Legal documentation typically isn't a little threat of "don't do this" but more of a statement. And as for old treaties, well an expired title wont get you anywhere.

[quote name='Dochartaigh' timestamp='1292901496' post='2547447'] he seems to think that any alliance who disbands is a trash alliance. [/quote] That would be putting words in my mouth, or misreading quite a bit. So do you think the other people believe disbanded alliances are cars?

I would say that right and wrong is morality based, and morality is subjective. WFF is with NEW all the way, no matter the reasons; we don't see the reasons as much as we're gonna be with them on whatever it is. It sounds cultish, but the kool-aid is delicious.

[quote name='LittleRena' timestamp='1292898628' post='2547386'] Depends what it is, there are limits, if he stole from an old lady, no I wouldn't, he'd have to think about what he had done and pay for it. [/quote] Well, we love our brothers more than you do.