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Silence NATO - 8 Despite what has happened to them they are moving foward as always Global Order of Darkness - Ahahahahahahahahahahaha -Nuclear Launch Detected- We Are Perth Army - 6 Tough S-O-B's when we fought them awhile back Global Democratic Alliance - 7, Constantly hounded for being ex-Hegemonic but still doing their thing World Federation - 7, Onward and upward Argent The Phoenix Federation - 7,Don't let those douche bags keep you down, keep fighting the good fight Genesis - 6 loved them back in the day but dont see them much anymore Imperial Assault Alliance - Not enough experience with them to comment Regnum Invictorum - 8, A decent non-sleazy alliance on CN??? INCONCIEVABLE!!!! New Sith Order - 9, One word "Ivan", well actually James too The Resistance Asgaard Goon Order of Oppression, Negligence and Sadism - 5, Mixed feelings about you guys, Greenland Republic 4, lost some respect for you in recent times Phoenix Rising AGW Overlords Ubercon Carpe Diem - iFOK Coalition of Christian Countries Monos Archein Valhalla 6, Mixed feelings but more positive than negative United Commonwealth of Nations The United Front Green Old Party Fellowship of Elite Allied Republics Union of Integrated National Entities \m/ - 7, same thuggish attitude mixed with new found common sense, I'm starting to like it Order of the Black Rose Echelon - 9, no alliance couldve have gone through what you have and still be holding together, Your loyalty knows no bounds Ronin The German Empire The Corporation Seaworthy Liberian Cardboard Boxes The Sweet Oblivion Grand Global Alliance - 6, not the greatest leadership ive ever seen but you're still around and hopefully this new direction will take you somewhere Federation of Allied Republics Gondor - 4, Your posts make your alliance look like a bunch douchebags, no offense

[quote name='Methrage' date='21 April 2010 - 10:46 PM' timestamp='1271904381' post='2270085'] Well my aid slots clear tomorrow, so if anyone wants to initiate secret aggressive action there is always secret foreign aid. [/quote] Now you're just provoking them.

[quote name='magicmountain' date='21 April 2010 - 09:55 PM' timestamp='1271901286' post='2270016'] There were numerous IRC conversations. I don't know the early situation very well but the gist of it from my experience is neither side could agree on terms so we went to war with him and lobbied to have him sanctioned. His response to that was to derail a GOONS alliance announcement thread until it was locked, then he created this thread, supposedly to complain about being sanctioned for being a nuke rogue, but we see it's really just a platform to continue to broadcast his message. He continually avoids any real discussion and broadcasts his message, over and over. So again I ask you, what would you have us do? I guess we could ignore him and let people believe what they will but responding is so much more fun. [/quote] I don't know, Whatever the GOONS or Methrage does is up to them. But my suggestion would be to have a reasonable level headed neutral mediator and attempt to hold peace talks again. The bickering is pretty pointless. Methrage and a few GOONS members had a disagreement in his DoW thread which is how this started. Arguing facts and valid points will get both of you no where because both of you think you're right, but there is no right or wrong in this case. It's only perspective. Both of you are doing what you think is right but you're going about it all wrong. Methrage and GOONS leadership need to sit down and be reasonable with eachother. Not try to muscles eachother with terms.

[quote name='magicmountain' date='21 April 2010 - 09:27 PM' timestamp='1271899648' post='2269962'] It's really more of a Methrage vs GOONS members conflict. Besides, what would you have us do? Our government tried on multiple occasions to deal with him diplomatically but he doesn't even respect us enough to agree to negotiate as equals. Personally, I believe refusing to communicate in private channels and continuously misrepresenting the situation in a public forum is an extremely childish way to deal with your personal problems. Methrage dug himself into a hole, now he's yelling at the top of his lungs for someone to throw him a rope. What exactly was this mistake? Please be verbose. [/quote] Well what if you both met on irc with a neutral mediator and just negotiate, there's not much to it. This isn't a major conflict, it doesn't need to go any futher.

[quote name='ktarthan' date='21 April 2010 - 04:09 PM' timestamp='1271880557' post='2269455'] This has absolutely nothing to do with anything. You're arguing against things he didn't even say. [/quote] Which is what you do when you mis-quote him. This whole GOONS members vs Methrage thread conflict is becoming a little childish.

After what happened a couple of years back this is a start

And may there be many more anniversaries to come o/

History was most likely written by those who have been victorious in their wars. Some of those alliances may have been tyrants. Some of it may be lies or misinformation. Therefore you must get a wide range of different perspectives and documents before you can start. You have quite a monumental task ahead of you. I wish you luck.

[quote name='The AUT' date='03 April 2010 - 05:41 PM' timestamp='1270330885' post='2246844'] So you're going to let him mouth off and run behind CSN's strength to extort reparations from me? Come on Penkala I peaced you out after all that, call off your friends. You did say you would, after all. [/quote] You shouldve known better than to trust the word of someone who wanted to cause you harm. i hope you get out of this in one piece.

[quote name='Lamuella' date='19 April 2010 - 07:47 PM' timestamp='1271720833' post='2266995'] you're fighting for the same "noble cause" that every webcam girl and emo teen poet has: to get people to care about you. You crave to be in the middle of things, to have the contentious opinion that makes you important. You inflate the pomp and circumstance and make every thread you set foot in the Rebel Virginia Show. It's openly pathetic because it's the only way anyone will ever care about you. [/quote] But by continually responding to his posts you providing him the attention he wants. Yes I know some of us would rather not let the other guy get the last word but RV is a special case. If you don't ignore him he will never shut up. Time to call it quits. Edit: Heads up

[quote name='SirWilliam' date='19 April 2010 - 05:19 PM' timestamp='1271711940' post='2266763'] "Do this, MKer." "Nah TOPper, what we do is up to us." "YOU'RE DUMB." [/quote] You're not enabling? I'm not concerned with this IRON-GRE conflict because I know IRON and DAWN will pull through. What concerns me is that I can smell MK's and some of CnG's hypocrisy from a 2 miles away, which is an improvement from last year.

[quote name='Sardonic' date='19 April 2010 - 12:31 PM' timestamp='1271694678' post='2266366'] I knew you would turn traitor eventually you dog. I saw your doubts as I ordered you to murder the unaligned, to command your troops to wage war on the innocent to feed our wealth. And now here you are staring me in the face, from the other side. Has your year in our alliance taught you nothing? Evil will always triumph, because good is dumb. I would also request that you cease poking around where you have no business, nobody must learn the truth about salithus and I. It is a pity that you have taken up with our enemy, for I am sure you could have been among the greatest GOONS leaders. You could have been able to unleash hell on a pathetic microalliance for not just the tech but the sheer fun of the kill. You could have drowned in a sea of pubbie tears. But no, you chose the side of light, how pathetic. [/quote] lol, Thats some deep stuff there

[quote name='Jakome' date='19 April 2010 - 10:06 AM' timestamp='1271685962' post='2266251'] [CENTER] Life's Hard With A Job That's Where I Post All My Posts Nice Petty Remark [/center] [/quote] Oh Lawdy!!!, Poetic come back! I lol'd But since Karma apparently two wrongs make a right

[quote name='Ghuxalia' date='19 April 2010 - 09:58 AM' timestamp='1271685478' post='2266244'] Of course! Who doesn't? (Jarvis, don't answer that) [/quote] *Raises hand*

[quote name='mrcalkin' date='19 April 2010 - 09:52 AM' timestamp='1271685114' post='2266239'] Pre-game for the holiday on Tuesday [/quote] LMAO, nice one

[quote name='Fallen_Fool' date='19 April 2010 - 08:40 AM' timestamp='1271680818' post='2266198'] Gramlins at war: Old news. Gramlins losing members: Older news. Gramlins doing what they want: Oldest news. How does this merit 76 pages? [/quote] Because people just don't know when to quit.

Oh wow, people went from take petty shots at Methrage to poetry. What do you guys do on weekends?

Can't wait to see you guys finish up your reps and the NS explosion that follows. o/

Can't you people just come to a truce. This is getting ridiculous.

Polaris must be beaming right now

[quote name='Ashoka the Great' date='18 April 2010 - 11:39 AM' timestamp='1271605127' post='2264924'] Gotta admit....haven't laughed like that in quite a while. Thanks. [/quote] FAN a 4 ? Nodriech a 3 ?

The ones that don't have a rating are the ones I haven't seen in action or paid attention to ( Not an insult ) Mostly Harmless Alliance 7 New Pacific Order 8 New Polar Order 9 Sparta 6 Viridian Entente Fark Mushroom Kingdom 6 Orange Defense Network United Purple Nations FOK 8 Global Alliance And Treaty Organization 9 The Legion 7 The Order Of The Paradox 9 Ragnarok RnR The Order Of Light Random Insanity Alliance Umbrella Poison Clan Commonwealth Of Sovereign Nations 7 Nueva Vida Federation Of Armed Nations 10 Independent Republic Of Orange Nations 8 Siberian Tiger Alliance Multicolored Cross-X Alliance The Grand Lodge Of Freemasons Athens 5 Nordreich The International The Foreign Division LOSS Nusantara Elite Warriors The Grämlins 7 or 8 Guru Order North Atlantic Defense Coalition 8 M*A*S*H The Templar Knights

[quote name='commander thrawn' date='17 April 2010 - 02:44 PM' timestamp='1271529863' post='2264020'] So heres a question, why does a new government absolve an alliance of its past actions? (OOC: Doesn't Obama have to deal with the actions of Bush, Clinton, Reagan etc and the next president will have to deal with the actions of Obama/OOC)Each alliance has a reputation created by its past rulers this reputation may change but with the reputation and name recognition comes a natural judgement including past actions. [/quote] Yes ture, but th only past actions I've seen GDA take were defending allies. People can try to say that the GDA kept NPO propped up for years but come on an alliance that maintained 250 members at average kept a power house like the NPO propped up? Not to mention the GDA was not involved in the NPO-Continuum led curb stomps that took place. They only honor their treaties when the NPO was directly attacked as any alliance would do. But I can say the same about some of your "Karma" buddies that gladly would aggresively activate their treaties and jump on whoever the NPO was fighting. So before accusing the GDA of anything you should have a talk with some of your friends first. The GDA has been allied to the NPO almost dating back to their creation. They were our good friends ( Well not mine but I'm speaking for the allliance as a whole) just as MHA and Gre are or were good friends. And now people are saying it was a crime for GDA to defend their allies just because they were on the other side of the treaty web?

[quote name='zzzptm' date='17 April 2010 - 05:40 PM' timestamp='1271540441' post='2264245'] Claiming to be in an alliance while going rogue is still going rogue. I hate to agree with GOONS, but I think they've got a case here. Yes, there's a convoluted back story, but the old saw still applies here: join an alliance with over 15 members and cease offensive actions if you want this stuff to end. [/quote] Unfortunately I don't think he'll get off that easy. This situation has turned into quite the cluster$%&@.

[quote name='Rebel Virginia' date='18 April 2010 - 02:17 AM' timestamp='1271571437' post='2264698'] [color="#0000FF"]No, I merely have an intense dislike for you. Over the last several days I have observed your arrogance and a tendency to be often wrong. As for a list, I could care less. I know where I stand in my eyes. Ego? Perhaps some, but it is deserved. That is more than you can say for your own. Furthermore I do not allow myself to be blinded by it. I know when I am wrong, which is hardly ever. You on the other hand, and others like you, do not have that luxury and continue to make yourselves look quite silly.[/color] [/quote] Are you sure? I've counted. It was one time in this thread and another when I mixed up one of the GW's last week and admitted to both mistakes. Now for the other times if you are saying im wrong because you think your opinion is superior to mine (which im sure is the case) than you need a reality check.