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[quote name='Krashnaia' date='13 May 2010 - 06:57 PM' timestamp='1273791446' post='2297288'] I'm just giving my personal opinion. Something you seem to dislike. If you have such problems accepting the existence of other points of view, you should think if an internet forum is the place for you to be. I have never said I'm specially gifted with military prowess, neither I have mentioned my alliance. That's something you have made up yourself. [/quote] If you think I have a problem with you expressing your opinion then you are taking this way too personally. Many people earlier in this thread have expressed opposing viewpoins to mine and I respectfully disagreed. Lighten up a bit. "I have never said I'm specially gifted with military prowess, neither I have mentioned my alliance." [quote name='Krashnaia' date='13 May 2010 - 04:56 PM' timestamp='1273784172' post='2297183'] Yeah, that's why we win our wars and you lose yours. Isn't it funny how often all those uses of "strategy" that revolves around "keeping my arse safe in Peace Mode" tend to end, unsurprisingly, in crushing defeat? [/quote] Yet this statement will defeat your arguement every time because this post dug your hole from the start and now you're having trouble getting out. Peace mode is a componet of modern warfare on planet Bob and it's not going anywhere and to claim alliances are cowards for using it is a pretty arrogant statement. There is no point in continuing this arguement.

[quote name='Krashnaia' date='13 May 2010 - 06:36 PM' timestamp='1273790193' post='2297268'] Always the same patterns. "If you don't agree with me is because you know nothing about war". [/quote] First off don't put words in my mouth, Second your "If you don't agree with me is because you know nothing about war" is invalid because my stance originated after your ludicrous comment, not prior to it. It is also invalid because nearly every last alliance involved in war has sent their nations into peace mode at one point, Either to rest, or sit as a reserve or maybe it is a banking nation. There are no right and wrong opinions but your statement is just plain wrong.

[quote name='Krashnaia' date='13 May 2010 - 06:36 PM' timestamp='1273790193' post='2297268'] And, don't you think the number of allies someone has, isn't somewhat related to your diplomatic skills and your ability to show that your alliance means business? [/quote] That is very much beside the point. I could've sworn that I was pointing out that while you patronize IRON and say that they don't win their wars, during the last two conflicts you heavily out-numbered your enemies. Then you come here and act like MA is gods given gift to military tactics.

[quote name='Krashnaia' date='13 May 2010 - 04:56 PM' timestamp='1273784172' post='2297183'] Isn't it funny how often all those uses of "strategy" that revolves around "keeping my arse safe in Peace Mode" tend to end, unsurprisingly, in crushing defeat? [/quote] ??? So I'm assuming you don't know much about fighting and wars of attrition [quote name='Krashnaia' date='13 May 2010 - 04:56 PM' timestamp='1273784172' post='2297183'] Yeah, that's why we win our wars and you lose yours [/quote] Oh My! A classic example of substituting your military prowess with the number of allies you had!

[quote name='Alfred von Tirpitz' date='13 May 2010 - 01:56 PM' timestamp='1273773374' post='2297063'] It is sort of confusing to me to see folks say that the Grämlins are holding IRON and DAWN in neverending war or are drawing out the conflict. Fact of the matter is, IRON could blitz them today and bring this to an end much faster than what time it would take for it to end by way of Grämlins recanting and saying "no mas". IRON you certainly have more than enough friends to ensure that the rebuild from the blitz and subsequent curbstomp wont be too long drawn. There is also the famed billion dollar club. End it now. It would also be somewhat satisfying to you, to kick them to the roadside after they held you at war for so long. What do you guys want here? An end to the war? Satisfaction? It is within reach, right? They are eroded, middle order smashed, fillipino heroes all but dead and the PR campaign is done and all credibility they had, shot. What??!! What are you doing here? [/quote] I don't blame them for wanting to see Gre squirm and then showing them that they give as good as they get.

[quote name='Lord Brendan' date='11 May 2010 - 09:13 PM' timestamp='1273626801' post='2295451'] The two are not mutually exclusive. IRON perceived a threat and acted upon it by launching a preemptive strike. They were misguided in doing so, which makes the attack unwarranted as well. [/quote] Yes yes, The same old come back. It's okay, we get it. They launched a pre-emptive strike. but I think what really works people's nerves is when you lie and say it was unwarranted or unprovoked.

[quote name='flak attack' date='11 May 2010 - 07:03 PM' timestamp='1273619002' post='2295286'] Gre entered the fighting as a result of an unwarranted attack on MK. [/quote] I just had to address this. First it was Pre-Emptive, now it's unwarranted? Make up your mind. Also Gramlins you're losing alot of weight, and IRON as much as I wish you could... you can't touch their top tier. So if this $%#@ storm actually does become an "Eternal War" Gramlins will never be able to recruit except for the very rare high NS nation that is dumb enough to wander into their ranks. Also their bad PR will remain. MHA will be yelled at for not keeping their buddies in line, CnG will also take heat and eventually people will enter the war on the side of IRON/DAWN On IRON's side, they will never be able to build past a certain NS unless they have 50 nations ready to break that barrier all at once. Their growth will depend on new lower tier recruits until this is over, not to mention the crushing amount of reps they will still have to pay. CnG and CO's fault IMO. So as long as this goes on both sides are screwed.

[quote name='Lord Brendan' date='10 May 2010 - 07:18 AM' timestamp='1273490305' post='2293461'] In my experience, NSO were poor fighters and did not even launch attacks every day. This is the truth. You can challenge me to duels all you want, not gonna change a thing. It should be noted however that I only fought a single NSO nation. [/quote] I believe this post hurts you more than it hurts them

[quote name='Arthur Blair' date='08 May 2010 - 09:10 AM' timestamp='1273324206' post='2291260'] So you think you can accomplish this goal by claiming MK is the new hegemonic ruler of the world [/quote] No, You pretty much have that covered already.

[quote name='wickedj' date='05 May 2010 - 09:42 PM' timestamp='1273110119' post='2288454'] Dude...where were you a few months ago? we warred already and yall REALLY need better warchests those were not pretty [/quote] .............. NSO fought off an alliance almost twice their size, while being at war with others and when there was a possibility that their allies might get dragged in, NSO told them Save your infras, this is our fight! I'm sure if CSN and NSO had squared off one on one before the war it would have not ended well for you. Also don't confuse military prowess with the numbers of allies you had fighting them. It makes you look silly.

[quote name='Il Impero Romano' date='05 May 2010 - 05:05 PM' timestamp='1273093488' post='2288016'] So, all of you who are vocal here, you have to ask yourselves why are you concerned with this? Is it because of the bad precedent it sets and the fact that it radiates injustice? Or is it because you want a chance to throw mud at the guy on the other side of the fence? If your doing the latter, its visibly obvious, it makes you look absolutely ridiculous, your doing far more to hurt your case then help it, and your reminding everyone why your on the other side of the fence in the first place. [/quote] Well the same can be said for your side, Alterego posted a simple topic asking "Is the war over or are the terms eternal". Most likely trying to get a feel for where some people and alliances stand. Some people on your side of the fence saw this as an invitation to intiate mud-slinging which they did and manged to effectivley blow this thread out of proportion and take this debate in a new direction which it wasn't originally intended.

I dont understand what everyone is waiting on

[quote name='Arthur Blair' date='02 May 2010 - 11:37 AM' timestamp='1272814633' post='2283788'] Do Something About It.© [/quote] Ah, the classic Hegemonic comeback to an opposing statement, Thank you for proving me right. Does your Hypocrisy know no bounds?

[quote name='Arthur Blair' date='02 May 2010 - 08:49 AM' timestamp='1272804558' post='2283716'] I bet it will, and I bet you'll be right there to expose our horrible practices to the world, again. As long as you're around there is no reason to fear. We will be exposed. Never change. [/quote] I find it even more hilarious that they are sitting here gloating about it but, then they turn around and squeal about how Hegemony did it.

[quote name='SonOfHoward' date='30 April 2010 - 04:16 PM' timestamp='1272658583' post='2281548'] Pretty soon it will be IRON's allies' who will be the targets of OWF smear campaigns for sitting idly by while their 'friends' get pummeled. Or is IRON actually winning this war? I haven't had time to research the stats... [/quote] IRON/DAWN gained the upper hand recently, the Gramlins lower tier is being torn apart and they are slowly losing members, plus alot of bad PR. You can't blame IRON/DAWN allies for not jumping into the fray. Especially when alliances like MK and FOK haven't made it clear whether they will retaliate or not. If anyone attacks Gramlins at this point a likely scenario is that Gramlins allies will come to their defense and make their side look like the victims of this conflict.................again. I'm also sure CnG and co. wouldn't mind pounding the other side of the treaty web down again and slapping on more reparations payments while they're at it.

Good move, Inactivves and people who don't care are just dead weight weight. I think you're going to inspire alot of alliances to take the same action.

[quote name='Golan 1st' date='29 April 2010 - 02:34 PM' timestamp='1272566044' post='2280083'] I don't think that Bob is the one made look like an idiot by Denial's post. [/quote] That isn't directly implied. My post meant that those are 3 of the things that might happen to you if you arguement cannot be defeated and people wish to prolong it. I didn't say which applied directly to this situation.

So the moral of this story? Be careful what info you share with your "friends" or Just refrain from hacking other people forums.

[quote name='Bob Janova' date='29 April 2010 - 12:43 PM' timestamp='1272559367' post='2279944'] You really are the most irritating person to debate against, because you won't actually answer any points, you just try to misrepresent or twist what is in front of you to divert attention from the fact you're not answering them. [/quote] Welcome to CN politics Bob where if a person cannot defeat the "Coup de grace" arguement you made against them, they will resort to diversion, twisting up words or making you look like an idiot.

[quote name='LJ Scott' date='26 April 2010 - 10:28 AM' timestamp='1272292089' post='2275978'] Who are you? [/quote] That would depend sir, Who are you? Congratulations on retirement, But you'll be back, They always come back

[quote name='Penlugue Solaris' date='27 April 2010 - 05:47 PM' timestamp='1272404829' post='2277657'] I look forward to your declaration on me for aiding Gramlins then in a few days. Or, your refusal to pay MK reps based off that. [/quote] Translation: Well being we that can and will get away with it, screw you and the Easter Sunday Accords, In fact if you don't like it do something about it.

[quote name='nutkase' date='27 April 2010 - 04:51 AM' timestamp='1272358249' post='2277195'] Nor have I seen any IRON or DAWN member stating that this is in fact a aggressive action by Gremlins, only seeing people sitting from the side lines accusing it being so. [/quote] Have you been reading anything on the forums lately?

[quote name='The Big Bad' date='25 April 2010 - 12:18 PM' timestamp='1272212308' post='2274391'] That would require them to be doing damange and they are not. The opposite in fact. Gremlins has dug itself into a hole. They will never get what they want and anything less makes them look like complete idiots for not knowing this was a fail idea. [/quote] I don't think it's very fair to fault the Gramlins as a whole though.

[quote name='Mr Damsky' date='25 April 2010 - 11:46 AM' timestamp='1272210368' post='2274357'] It'd do IRON's PR some good to give Gremlins white peace. [/quote] Yeah it definitley would, If I was in that situation though, Knowing that my alliance has to pay reps to CnG I would put Gre under terms to pay them off quicker.

Mostly Harmless Alliance - 6, Didnt like you much before but you're handling pressure with the Gre situation pretty well, Hang in there Green Protection Agency - 10, despite what people might think of neutrals you guys are one of the best most independent alliances ive ever seen, Keep working your way back up New Pacific Order - 9, I've hated you guys since my nation was created in Dec 06, That hate lasted up until summer 09, Now I have come to respect Pacifica in too many ways to mention here, New Polar Order - 8, Ive always liked you guys, -1 for your recent actions though World Task Force - Havent seen enough from them to judge Sparta - 6, I have mixed feelings about you but for the most part I think you're alright Viridian Entente - 7, Impero is a very good representative of your alliance, I wish there were more like him The Democratic Order - 8, You keep yourselves out of trouble and are level headed, people may hate you for that but I dont Fark - 8, My favorite alcholics! No one can be pissed while under your terms Mushroom Kingdom - 5, you stood up to NPO a long time ago, I can respect that, as for you recent actions though.......... Orange Defense Network - 5, I just don't understand!! United Purple Nations - 7, Nowhere to go but up for you, The future of purple is in your hands, please be reponsible FOK - 7, Didn't like you before but your actions in the recent conflict have impressed me Global Alliance And Treaty Organization - 10, A very old and established alliance, They have had their good times, they have been curbstomped out of power, they have hit sanction again and are back to tell the world "We're not done yet!" The Legion - 6, keep on moving up The Order Of The Paradox - 8, You worked you way up but, Man-O-Man!!! was this war a serious blunder for you guys , Pay your reps, Rebuild your order and get back out there! Ragnarok - 7, I may not agree with all of your policies but you're a decent bunch, I think Ragnablok is a wonderful idea and I also like your name RnR - don't know you The Order Of Light - 6, actions in the Karma war have boosted my opinion of you Random Insanity Alliance - not enough data Umbrella - 5, A significant improvement from what I thought of you before Poison Clan - 4, Your posters make you look like jerks Commonwealth Of Sovereign Nations - 6, I butted heads with you guys in the Karma war, It was pretty fun and you were good sports Nueva Vida - 9, I second Burnsey's opinion, NV is very sexy and we are grateful for NV's protection Federation Of Armed Nations - 7, you pulled a pretty nice one over Valhalla in the recent conflict, but the world needs more Gun Pron! Independent Republic Of Orange Nations - 8, "IRON" perfectly describes your alliance, Strong community, Strong Military, and Strong resolve, the makings of a great alliances Siberian Tiger Alliance - 6, *inserts witty comment here* Multicolored Cross-X Alliance - 6, my opinion of you is a vast improvement since that BLUE-Continuum cluster$%&@ but I need to see more The Grand Lodge Of Freemasons - don't know you Athens - 2, An alliance that needs a serious attitude adjustment or they will most likely get a very rude awakening. Nordreich - 6, I can't comment on that whole " You guys are Nazi's" thing but you seem like a decent bunch The International - Not enough data The Foreign Division - 7, The AUT LOSS - Not enough data Nusantara Elite Warriors - Not enough data The Grämlins - 6, I liked you guys but your recent actions have changed my opnion of you Guru Order - Not enough data North Atlantic Defense Coalition - 8, Glad you guys are still around M*A*S*H - Not enough data The Templar Knights - Not enough data