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[b]Part III - The Recovery[/b] [img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4e/Construction_in_Toronto_May_2012.jpg[/img] [i]Winnipeg - Fourth Year of Recovery[/i] The rubble was gone. All that remained of the past physical destruction was a square block of a nearly destroyed previous local landmark, a church, a nearly destroyed shopping complex, the guttered remains of a 15 story tower and other smaller buildings remained. It was known as the Winnipeg Peace Park. Newly planted trees dotted the square block landscape that was situated near the new legislative building campus that nearing completion along with the construction of new skyscrapers racing up throughout the downtown area. The only thing new to the untouched square block was a new interpretive center detailing the city before the blast and the stark reminder of nuclear destruction. Many surviving locals would visit from time to time, never forgetting those who launched those weapons. The catholic church with it's Gothic architecture was left undisturbed as it was from the weeks after the blast; however, nature found it's way in to the sanctuary. It would become the place where flowers were laid to rest and photos of the deceased hung. The multistory mall was also decided to be left intact to instill the image of everyday life right before the blast of a Federation in a peacetime posture, while not true on the political foreign policy side, the citizenry were caught unaware of the gravity of the situation that lead to the actions of the Northern Imperium. The other major reminder was the remains of the 15 story tower. It's first few floors remained, while various elevation's walls towered several stories more. Engineers did massive touch up work to ensure integrity of the structure as well as the remaining walls with steel cable reinforcement. Outside of the park, rebuilding continued at the frantic pace that began soon after the rubble was cleared. Development to pre-war levels was still a long ways away, but the western end of the city was the most improved due to the quick response to that area while the eastern side had many overgrown lots and ruined buildings still needing destruction. Engineers and city planners took full advantage of the destruction to improve on the flaws of the previous layout of Winnipeg with improved downtown to airport access with a light rail connection. The downtown committed to building a multi-modal mass transit station servicing light rail, local buses, taxis, rental bikes, national bus charter service and future maglev lines. Planners envisioned a more European design to the city for the downtown and surrounding area catering to pedestrians and bikes with shorter blocks, while adhering to the needs of businesses for wide thoroughfares where needed for cars. The planning commission called for skyscraper limits up to 110 stories tall to regain the former glory of the Federation capital. The last physical reminder was more subtle, but a necessity of the dozens of radiation measurement devices that were scattered throughout the region affected.

TBM, you're on the right path.

[quote name='Executive Minister' timestamp='1358402673' post='3077895'] No time to analyze the entire hubbub that's been created here with the time it deserves just yet, but i'll respond to this quickly. Its just a faster Tu-22M, or rather, a Tu-22M that can get away at speeds. If you must, you could think of it as a smaller Tu-160. Same usage. As for super unrealistic, please tell me you've talked about the Mach 20 exoatmospheric drone fighters. Mach 3 pales in comparison. I have a qualm with Centurius escaping with so little kills on his bombers. Again, if he argues he can remain stealth under those circumstances, and you guys expect me to accept that wholeheartedly, then you're asking the entire community to accept the fact that Cent's bombers are basically invulnerable to detection as no other scenario like the one he stumbled into would produce a stronger chance to detect that aircraft. [/quote] I still cannot accept the fact that it can still be a true ground attack asset with Mach 3 capabilities. I can see a one-time afterburner burst to Mach 3, but constant Mach 3, definitely no. I could take it as a medium bomber role with air-to-ground missile payload, but the forces exerted any material of the plane would thoroughly tested, especially, bomb bay openings at those speeds. You would trade speed for maneuverability, which for a ground attack craft is the complete opposite of what you want for such a role and would be more fitting of a bomber role. I haven't talked on the Mach 20 drone, but I would say that no such thing would be out by 2030 anyways. If it's for intelligence gathering... it would be pointless, and if it did hold weapons, it wouldn't be a lot. ________________________________________________________________________ Look, I've already touched that carbon nanotube RAM and other metamaterials is just a spiffy technology that won't reach next generation aircraft, regardless of what general publications are out there right now. It's still on it's infancy stage in laboratory settings on little wafer cones, while next generation aircraft design is well underway at major aerospace companies. If it viable, it will be to late-intro sixth gen or seventh generation aircraft that would cover the entire EM spectrum with demonstration models by the mid-2020s most likely. Lessons of the F-35 are still yet to be learned, even as it's a refinement of current technology. I would suspect that any new RAM will suffer from the maintenance downtime and other special needs that stealth aircraft have inherited, that is anyone in this game has stealth fifth and sixth generation aircraft have ignored, calling into question multiple people's aircraft beyond the current realm of known aircraft. Carbon nanotube is most likely going to be a paint, but that will include normal wear and tear and climate induced changes to the airframe. Materials science may defeat Moore's Law finally, but it will be expensive. I know in the past we've discussed such aircraft abilities, but growing older, new knowledge appears to combat old long-standing assumptions for the community, most of which will be uncomfortable, I acknowledge. I'm not afraid to challenge long standing assumptions, this goes for everyone. Not just to TSI and co, but I'm open to question AUP's arsenal. I'm calling into question long-standing things across a wide spectrum, most of which would point back to the early days. Things that I didn't touch because my knowledge then was not a great as it is now. If anyone want to argue points, I'm prepared to look at every angle, that's how I approach this debate. I've stated earlier that it's highly improbably that such RAM would be used in favor of other technology that is cheaper apart from the weight issue that was brought up. I'm sure everyone fielding sixth generation aircraft on here is as big or bigger than the F-22 platform while lightweight production is possible, other factor of increased internal hard points and extended combat radii all add to the weight issue, not to mention overcoming decent power plants to obtain proper fuel efficiency, thrust, power-to-weight ratio and maintain low IR signature. In conclusion, that's my argument of improbably. I could argue to cop out and let it stand for the war, as the truth behind carbon nanotube RAM and other metamaterials that it blocks the entire EM spectrum is undeniably true, but without proper in-between flight maintenance make such aircraft way easier to be discovered since they are painted on. This is my back-up compromise to the situation I've outlined above, it would allow the post to stand, but inattentive RPing would dictate future action. I had a longer discussion on carbon nanotube RAM and how to counteract it, we thought of some various ways, but I'm not going to spoil that fun.

EM and Mara. If you both have no qualms on north Africa, I strongly urge to post replies on that front. Triyun and those in the Indian will still have to wait, unless willing to accept neutral detection by commercial vessels. Cent's aircraft will still be hard to detect even with all the radar coverage; however, this in turn will make additional sorties harder due to more maintenance required to upkeep the coating, as it pertains to north Africa. if he decides to forgo or anyone else with similar technology to skip maintaining the coating, the aircraft will become notably more detectable.

When you make an argument Triyun, you should expect myself to test your points more than anyone else is willing to. As significant as this war is, one liner movement as far as previous precedent are known is a huge no-no. Stop pulling at straws and acknowledge the poor form of your pre-war RP. No other RPing community would allow it in any light of day. Also talking with some ground radar people, more oth-b sites would provide more coverage, not more foreknowledge without improved processing data and digital signal cleaners. Both you and EM are of equal tech, one oth-b site can see thousands of miles with today's technology. You may observe his ports with such radar, but if they are chilling there, it's pointless because they aren't moving nor if they left and it was a commercial port, you could still not tell anything. But I have a far better explanation of both fleets detection via neutral commercial vessels transiting by telling either side. So there, problem solved. Beware of the neutral menace selling people out. This is a logical outcome of your argument that discovery of both fleet by HUMINT would triumph any other intelligence assets being RP'd and the consequence for hiding out in the commercial sea lanes. Also, EM, that SR-71 like ground attack aircraft is super unrealistic from several aerospace people that I nice chat to, also another RP community I gotten to know from the various nerds here on base, laughed at this very thread.

Being the neutral party has required an approach that has taken longer than expected. I'm sorry yawoo that I'm unconvincing the responding party by taking the time to tap my resources to the problems raised by various movements and technology. I will not be rushed to hasty decisions and will bring full logic to the table. This looks like supporting the AUP; however, that is wrong.

I would consider that economics would apply to the other side as well, I never said explicitly, but I say my stance is more for economic, it does apply to everyone, not for a select side. Triyun, are you saying that your OTH-B is just watching South African region, that still falls into your hiding in commercial vessels idea. Hiding in commercial lines tactic is hiding in specific areas, while the Indian is big, the routes are obvious on the Eastern side as they are on the Western side of the Ocean. If my belief that EM's navy near Magagascar, he is in the open ocean in a commercial lane. I'm saying you used the lack of effectiveness of sats and OTH-B radar, and you convinced me. Unfortunately, I expanded the argument in a logical way. EM's navy isn't in a confined space in the Southwestern Indian Ocean, he's in open space. You'll had a permanent naval presence in the Indian since June. I'm going say both of you of nearly equal tech argued to handicap each other's intelligence gathering. My apologizes with the strong language I have, but I'm openly pissed on the accusations you've given me Triyun. If I say something, that may be favoring the AUP, I'm more to looking making this as unbiased as possible. I still can't support a one-liner movement in Shammy's thread outside of your official movement thread. Still, that one liner didn't even apply to your Indian Ocean assets anyways. _____________________________________________________ At this point, I find the RAM impractical with everyone's designs falling into the same trap. However, for the sake of the war, I'm not changing what has been done. In the sake of future posting, some pre-detection is possible, but missile will probably not be fired until after the planes fired their loads.

[quote name='Kankou' timestamp='1358348352' post='3077513'] Not meaning to drag you down anywhere. You were the first to come to mind, the other being TSS (who politely refused to even read this thread). [/quote] I wouldn't blame him to not enter this thread, but I'll take your word for it.

Voodoo's suggestion is very logical and the military tech between now and 1962 hasn't changed too much except in a few areas, some more significant than others. There are plenty of legacy 60's tech in the US military actively being used up to some years ago, some even now, although I have to admit, it's fast fading away in this present day as COTS (commercial-off-the-shelf) has invaded in many areas that not so sensitive in nature.

I would strongly support a revised tech scale back to the current age.

Don't drag me down the slippery slope this war has me going on Kankou. I haven't posted due to studying on other things for my career rather this game while skimming the stealth metamaterials discussion on my own. The only thing stopping carbon nanotubes RAM from production is manufacturing and current prohibitive costs attached to it. I see no reason for it to come down in the coming decade, while planned sixth generation aircraft as I see it would not use it as development plans are probably well underway at this point in time based on previous aircraft production pre-construction time frames would favor refinements of existing technology coupled with improved ECM suites. This reasoning is based a more real life economic consideration of "more bang for one's buck" theory for purchasing the appropriate number of airframes rather than the current CNRP non-consideration of economics. This is by far the safest way to approach the near future of new aircraft is what I've just said, since costs have skyrocketed while airframe numbers have dropped. I know it this is more of a moot point, but I'm just thinking aloud. I guess another question I pose to any RAM based material is durability and upkeep costs associated with them currently. We know that the F-22 and B-2 need special climate controlled hangers to prevent premature degradation of their RAM along with their reduced availability of combat hours due to increased maintenance. I know the F-35 addresses some of those issues, but I can't help but feel that as more advanced RAM gets, there is a great hidden cost to them in other areas. I don't have anything too particular as to the many theoretical what-ifs to the future, as it's outside my scope, but I've laid out a logical assessment of the future of aircraft in this next generation of flight. I know you're all building fighter aircraft just as large as the F-22 or bigger, but from an engineering standpoint, this makes all sorts of problems on weight and a decent powerplant that still adheres to stealth that would offset engineering advances you'll all made towards lightweight airframe construction. There's a bunch of what ifs and other considerations that is outside of anyone that could expertly reply in return here on such aircraft and it's capabilities. I know Tidybowlman has the "Tech" thread going and let's be honest here, I can't help any you on this, let alone yourselves. Sure, I've taken up considerable interest in engineering to the point of introductory courses, but that's it. We really don't know, except for the fact that 6th generation aircraft is actively on the drawing board. If CNRP does continue with near-future technology, it must continue to do so within the logical realm of economic viability of real life, rather than the 'magical everything is quite possible' feeling it has now. __________________________________________________________________ Triyun is well-known for doing the sly trick of burying his initial movements in his movements thread when the actual war thread is active. http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=110416&st=60#entry3066518 I know, in the span of irl 24 hours, hundreds of thousands of troops and various equipment moved into a small theater region. To the inattentive, this is very deceptive. Since he "didn't declare", he would argue his defense of the matter. I know war time is a non-issue and things speed up; however, the war started on the 9th, initial Tianxia mobilization on the 19th with a redeployment on the 20th. Triyun told me that most of his naval forces were in the Indian Ocean before the war. I have read his movement thread and there are four carrier groups already in the Indian as of June 2012 with Shammy's Liberadore thread being the only place where the Pacific fleet that fought Shammy was redeployed to West Asia then in the Movement thread to the Indian. His DoW in the war thread on the 21st is the attack, a testament of a lack of time to gather decent, detailed intelligence. Satellite recon would have shown a massive amount of activity and huge increase of troops in Arabia right before hand. Having 500k more troops in theater along with another 1.3 million cannot be hidden, while ships can and where he focused blinding efforts. Something like that still would have tipped off the most inept intelligence officer while a war was going down in the neighborhood. As Triyun argued against the effectiveness of satellites and OTH-B radar to effectively find his ships, the same can and will equally go for EM's ships to the lack of advanced intelligence. I hate when someone tells me they advanced intelligenced someone, but it's the day before the declaration, and no, I'm not going to let that stand in the light of day. If you want to defend the hiding in the shipping lanes things, be my guest, I won't complain. I'll acknowledge it, but it will apply to the other side as well. EM's ships are near Madagascar, also on a heavy shipping lane, so there, everybody is hiding from Sats and OTH-B. Nobody but Triyun and Impy used their space assets in the Indian and if your saying that his sats are ineffective, then yours is not much better. None of this implied crap, if it isn't typed, it hasn't happened. Which comes to the single line of the use of ULO UAVs in the Indian... and where to begin one's search of the Indian for someone's fleet with reduced intel gathering capabilities in such a short time... umm, no. All your intel gathering happened the day before your DoW and all at the same time to magically find someone else's fleet. If it's going to be that easy, I would move the community to spy rolling that crap immediately if the GMs are going to blast me on this seemingly accepted, current precedent is upheld. ___________________________________________________________________________ I would have to agree with that the 'losses' between Mara and Malatose is early in the warfare, further posts should deal losses while that post was an early encounter in heavily contested air space. ___________________________________________________________________________ I highly suggest at this point to resume replies along the North African area of the war. The Indian area will probably be on hold while this post is replied to from both sides. PS: I have a life, I can't deliver on every promise. PPS: The reason why they haven't posted to the non-problem posts is because the problems currently between the bigger players is and will influence the war, thus logical deduction of nothing happening. Until this whole Indian Ocean affairs is resolved, nothing is going to happen. Although I hope I clarified the North African/Europe theater, hopefully that might continue.

I call it as I see it.

[quote name='Centurius' timestamp='1358291497' post='3077173'] The guidelines do not cover an entire coalition, even if you have issues with me and Triyun there are about a dozen other rp'ers whose moves aren't contested and that need a response. [/quote] ^ That is very true. I wouldn't wait on that. However, I know that such players are most likely waiting for the bigger fish to continue duking it out as they pick up the scraps.

Thanks, I'll pour over this in the next couple hours into a more cohesive response. I'll address two things at the moment since I got back from a 12 hour night shift that should be ending at the end of this week, so my responses are sporadic at the moment. First is Operation Sulieman and my desire to merge the thread into the war. I apologize the change in stance that developed overnight on the conditions, that have started to unfold in that thread. I advocated an unprecedented move of political connection to allow you to move, rather than the current form of geographical proximity based move, in which, I consider more OOC and less IC based. However, when talking to the GMs, I was convinced that such a move into collapse of communications displaying anarchy to neighboring landholders would make people take action, in which I yielded. I support my original consideration to a degree still, but this war is not the place to decide that unfortunately, due to past actions denying various players of what I've advocated. I plan to bring such a consideration to the community after the war. I was vague on Cent's attack, in which I said I would detail later. So I should address it now. I talked to Triyun about Cent's planes and it's based on his F-5 designs using carbon nanotube technology RAM. Any mention of "[b]darker-than-black metamtaerials[/b]" should not be mentioned, if Cent does reply to this, should definitely not be used and technologically impossible for the forseeable future. Carbon nanotubes is a promising technology in its infancy for stealth applications; however, it is not a metamaterial and should not be confused as such. I think carbon nanotubes will find their way into late sixth generation aircraft that will be developed first on tried and true stealth methods as a "painting method" is developed as current development is leaning that way. So far, from what I've read is that it can absorb most of the EM spectrum, if not all of it. I would consider the aircraft very difficult to detect if it's using carbon nanotube RAM; however, I still think bi-static radar would have less-than-average shot at detection, with enough receivers in the theater early on, it's still a dangerous airspace. Enough to have radar waves return some return with a shot to shoot back, but as radar sites are knocked out... I doubt you would even tell that they are there. But I mean, I have to ask myself, if carbon nanotube RAM is the end all of complete visual and EM stealth, is not radar going to have to become a form of DEWs? Not a question to be answered for the war, but for later. However, Cent must reply to defend himself, and not Triyun. As for the autoadvance, no. I got caught up doing something Saturday doing something seemingly more productive than listening to people continue to bicker on IRC for hours on end if their position is seemingly right.

It is not the metamaterial that was brought up.

Continuing on to my preliminary findings and some ideas to toss out there. By all means, I would like some responses to help flesh this out. Lack of casualties: I would argue the lack of formal intelligence has made all posts with cruise missiles launches on any non-mobile facility in EM's or Mara's nation a bunch of rockets flying aimlessly through the sky. In more direct encounters, both sides have portrayed a lack of losses, yielding almost nothing to each side's supposed superiority. I would see why EM hasn't posted much about damages outside of direct encounters and dismissed nearly everyone else so far on damages on the most sensitive facilities. I will add that obvious targets that don't require a spy roll will need to have appropriate damages taken like ATCs, hangers and public government buildings. Cent's metamaterials: For Cent's metamaterials on his aircraft. The technology exists; however, at this time there is no foreseeable advancement on them for stealth application. As I understand it, such materials would actually change the radar signal to 'heat'. While stealthy to radar, it's not to IR equipment. That would need to be changed to something more plausible. I would like hear the defense of it if possible. Terrus Regius is a heavily saturated airspace with so much radar, it's a miracle that any bombers are entering the airspace attacking anything else besides radar sites, and it's definitely not uni-directional, it's multi-spectrum and airborne. I'll come to that later. EDIT: In further discussion, Cent's and Triyun's are using carbon nanotechnology RAM for their aircraft. Which make this a moot point. Mara's response to Germany: Another point of contention was that post. With her Gen 5+++ [url="http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=108972&st=320#entry2992480"]Grey Windows[/url] being on par with the [url="http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=90393&#entry2410618"]Lu-69 fighter[/url]. I know she hints at her pliot's training, but I know Germany has been around the block several times in recent times, regardless. Germany's plane should be more maneuverable than the Grey Windows, and having more losses associated with the fight. I'm not saying that the Lu-69 isn't detectable, but in the airspace with plenty of radar coverage, stealth will be less effective as you linger about. More damages/destruction of Grey Windows need to be mentioned, while incurring some strikes against the Lu-69. Question to Malatose. I noticed the GLI-122 "Blitz" Bombers, are they stealthy, or just a stealthy-looking supersonic bomber? Indian Ocean Theater: Figuring out where the hell everyone was indeed taxing effort. While there was a build up of naval force by Tianixa in the Indian Ocean, EM did not do any significant intelligence gathering in the preclude to war. While Triyun gave me his usual, "this is logical and realistic" speech, I needed it to be down to simpler reasons, even as I understood. While we agreed to disagree on what Athens' most influential relationship was, I knew that EM's fleet was in a jam. While Tianxia and nearby allies of Persia, Vietnam and Selenactos populated the Indian Ocean, nobody had declared on one another yet. I don't count Impy's fleet since it is still enroute. I contend that the idea of hiding in commercial sea routes just invites more successful intelligence intercept of possible naval building via space imagery. Yes, the intel guys would hate their lives, it's their jobs. The Indian Ocean is of much IC interest of Tianxia, Persia, and Aeon. Such a buildup would never go unnoticed by a competent nation such as Aeon. Although it was always implied, that is rarely enough anymore. As everybody seemingly has Isr sats and Oth b radar, how can the radar tell from the commercial clutter of both fleets? That opportunity passed as Tianxia announced their entry into the war and promptly opened fire. First strike belongs to Triyun; however, EM does have a shot to fire back during tail end of the strike as it closes in. This can later be confirmed by a late confirmation of satellite imagery of the Coalition's fleet, allowing for easier believable of retaliation. I know there was some issues with a UAV that had a radar with a 400km, something unheard of in a UAV platform, something only comparable to the E-3 Sentry AWACS and it's big radar dome. However, that was not the point, since his AWACS wasn't for detecting ships but visual intel gathering UAVs like the Global Hawk were being used. Another oversight is seeing things like sticking an AWACS platform on a B-2 frame without the hideous dome. Being this the longest part of this evening's discussion, I'm sure I left out something. I'll post more later. Once again, the more information I have, the sooner this whole thing can keep going.

Update: My review of the conflict is still ongoing with discussions with select people on both sides. There is still much discussion on particular movements and actions that will judged soon enough, but still undergoing deliberation.I have one thing that I will consider immediately to the warring factions on attacks by lesser allies on non-AUP side of the conflict of attacks on sensitive facilities, such as Command and Control centers, Intelligence facilities, space control facilities, particular radar sites without the proper intelligence gathering needed to find and attack such facilities. Spewing anti-radiation missiles at suspected radar sites is a gross mismanagement of the failure to proper gathering of EM analysis, by on-the-ground instruments or aircraft. To find C&C centers, Intel and space, I hope your HUMINT is up to par. Most of the time, such facilities are very normal looking amongst other base buildings. Learn to spy... I've only see spy rolls on nukes, this simply unacceptable by the lack of RP on finding AUP important facilities. EDIT: The actions under Operation Sulieman are by and large and extension of this war. While I disagree with the image of the Sulieman thread, I was convinced that the nature of the thread was okay. So, the land grab under Sulieman should resume under the war to solidify IC actions. Under a revision of Sulieman which will play out as this war resumes is as follows as I see it, this is not final yet:[list] [*]The inactive AUP players did collapse as per the 25 inactivity rule [*]The TSI and Company obtained first advantage of the nations collapse, and will fight to secure their hold in those countries as they move in. [*]AUP can contest TSI and Company actions on their fallen allies with counter actions; [b]however[/b], your forces have not auto-took control or moved of your former AUP allies territory. Realistic movement of forces to counter. [*]AUP bases in the fallen nations are fair game to the AUP to use; however, it does not imply any huge control of the fallen nations. It makes getting reinforcements from other areas easier, but it does not translate in full control of the contested areas. [*]The fallen nation's equipment has fallen into grave disrepair and is useless [*]All the above mentioned nations that fell are disputed territory pending the outcome of the war. [/list]

I'm seeing it. Can I get a short list via PM on some notable things you would like more details on EM and/or Mara? I'll be doing my own research on stuff in the meantime to sift through things. In the meantime, I cannot in good faith issue an auto-advance at this time, assuming by proxy given such a power temporarily. If not, I do request the GMs to respect my request. I assure you, by Saturday at the latest that this war will resume.

The first dozen units of the Tundra Watch Anti-Ballistic Missile System have been fielded to several new "Air and Missile Defense" battalions from former air defense battalions. Deployment throughout Hudson Bay will begin immediately. The following battalions are set to receive units of the new Anti-Ballistic Missile System. Complete fielding of all the units is to take another year or so. 604th Air and Missile Defense Battalion - Stationed near Whitehorse, Yukon 606th Air and Missile Defense Battalion - Stationed on Ellesmere Island 608th Air and Missile Defense Battalion - Near Churchill, Manitoba 610th Air and Missile Defense Battalion - Baffin Island 612th Air and Missile Defense Battalion - Yellowknife, Northwest Territories 615th Air and Missile Defense Battalion (National Guard) - Winnipeg 617th Air and Missile Defense Battalion (National Guard) - Central NW Territories

The rules are the rules. Reversing on one of the oldest rules of CNRP is of the worst precedence to demand an overturn.

[quote] ***USIPNet Transmission*** ***Diplomatic Encryption*** [b]To: American Commonwealth State Department [/b] [b]From: Hudson Bay Federation Ministry of Foreign Affairs [/b] CC: Hudson Bay Federation Office of the Chancellor, Hudson Bay Office of the Defense Minister Subject: J Andres Conflict/Evacuation Preparations Greetings, We humbly approach you on the developing situation in J Andres and the unrest in that country. The internal conflict in the nation was underestimated by our department as we told our embassy staff to stay put in Endor Cuidad; however, we believe the situation has reached new heights after the assassination of Queen Stephanie. I request that our staff are allowed to the American Commonwealth Embassy while we prepare our resources to get them out of the country. We would like to send a transport aircraft to one of your facilities and prepare for their evacuation. Sincerely, Gregory Rolan [size=3]Hudson Bay Federation Minister of Foreign Affairs [/size] [/quote]

[quote] [b][u]Private Dispatch[/u][/b] To: Hudson Bay Federation Embassy to J Andres From: Department of Hudson Bay Foreign Affairs FF: J Andres Foreign Affairs Department, American Commonwealth State Department ***USIPNet Transmission*** ***Encryption Level 4*** Subject: Travel Advisory and Embassy Orders during Foreign Unrest The Hudson Bay Embassy to J Andres will not be evacuated during this period of unrest. The Foreign Affairs Department urges embassy staff to reduce hours and stay in their homes. Pending on further developments of the situation, airborne evacutation may be facilitated. We've issued a travel advisory to J Andres for the forseeable future for all Hudson Bay nationals in J Andres or heading there to heed. The following message is to be relayed to the J Andres and American Commonwealth government: ***FOUO: Unclassified to Authorized Foreign Governments*** "We will not be evacuating to Boston, we've been told to hunker down in our homes in your city as your situation develops. We may exercise airborne evacuation if the situation worsens further. " ***FOUO*** [b]Gregory Rolan[/b] [b]Hudson Bay Minister of Foreign Affairs[/b] [size=2]***REMBEMBER!!! [/size][size=2]Proceed with Proper Security Handling and Destruction Measures. Maintain OPSEC.***[/size] [/quote]

Sarah, Curri, Shammy I'll accept the nominations given to me.

OOC: No problem, I've been quite busy myself. Schillinger would arrive at the office and greet Undersecretary Ventura, "Thank you for taking the time to visit me out of your busy schedule. I'm certain that you are already aware why I'm here on behalf of Hudson Bay. We wish to inquire on about our old lease with Greenland to use Cape Canaveral for space flight missions on our behalf. While we haven't had former relations between us, I'm certain that we can agree upon a suitable outcome from our meeting."

The Tundra Watch Anti-Ballistic Missile has entered the advanced engineering and manufacturing phase with scheduled roll out of the first operational units within the year. Tests so far with the TW-ABM has yield very successful results against target missiles at the Northwest Territories Missile Range with the help of the new Transportable-Forward Deployment X-band (T-FDX) acquisition and assessment radar. The TW-ABM unit will consist of the Heavy Mobility Tactical Truck-Launcher (HMT-433 variant) with six launch tubes, the TW-ABM intercepter missiles, a fire control and communication module, and the T-FDX radar. Estimate range is about 150 miles with a flight ceiling range of 95 miles, with the T-FDX radar being able to track up to 3 targets at the current moment. ________________________________________________________________________________________ The Defense Ministry is announcing the First Annual Communications and Cyber Security Consortium within the next few months with leading defense companies, expert scholars and military personnel coming in attendance, it is expected the Federation has extended an invitation to select allied nations to attend. ________________________________________________________________________________________ The next base north the former Trans-Canadian Highway near the Sleepy Hollow border has been completed. The Defense Ministry has authorized the movement of several divisions from the midwestern Manitoba bases to the new base.