Alterego

http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?s...t&p=1422865 Its explained here. Your version is the updated one.

Its the brave new moral world you've been hearing about, but first morality needs to be binned to bring about this moral utopia. It will be brought back later...I swear.

Freudian slip or human error, its been corrected. Thanks for your assistance

If this is the same force that was used against them to sign the six treaties it is truly the most awesome force on Bob.

Fair play Interesting take on a legally binding treaty that could create fun and games in the future. The moral compass of the moral high ground crowd seems to have disappeared from some alliances in the last few days. The harassment of GATO, supporting alliances who try and pry information from allies minutes from a treaty cancellation and choosing which treaties are legal or not paints a not so rosy picture of the "moral" side of the world.

It would be very funny if they got bashed for being ally or one of the six after trying to sneak out the back door. I doubt it is grounded in reality but it still makes me laugh thinking about it. I feel a paradox forming (not you TOP ).

Not counting conflicting treaties, if you cant honour a treaty when the time comes then don't sign six. I hope all alliances look beyond the politics of this suspension attempt and see it for what it is if they are considering a treaty with LoSS in the future. Good luck loss I hope the future holds a positive result for your alliance or the paymaster general will call by to collect his due. :jihad:

It means if the rest of the world is going to hell and at each others throats we would remain civil even if on opposing sides. Last comment, goodnight

My final comment here to try and get the original issues back on track. TDSM8 are gone now anyway so I guess its out of date.

BAPS members past and present will never forget that. In the year or so following that war Stumpy has been one of the alliances most outspoken critics despite signing an unbreakable friendship treaty and being a former treaty partner. Each stinging blow alone was not that bad, but over a long enough time line you have to question whether Stumpy actually considered BAPS friends. While the last GW was still raging we signed a treaty with them and after their surrender but while we still continued with the defense of our other allies we aided them over $100m. At the time we had around 45 members and were significantly smaller, but we were happy to return the favour they once did for BAPS and thus helped them with rebuilding. This constant criticism turned people like myself against him. We will never forget an ally, but at some point the ally has to cut you some slack and stop doing what he already knew he was doing (The BFF treaty covers this behavoir) I would doubt any other alliances ability to accept that kind of abuse from someone who professed to be a friend without some kind of reaction and snowballing of the issue.

Congratulations on your formation.

Im not running around telling everyone about freedom. I expose the double standards of hypocrites who call for their version of freedom and oppose any opposition.

The difference between not likening the decision and the savage attack that has been sustained by GATO from over a dozen different alliances is substantial. I have only ever seen verbal attacks of this magnitude against an alliance during a time of bitter war. The message it sends is do it our way or else. Who's the evil empire now?

Go me, poster of the week. Nice to see you mocking BAPS publicly again, when we were "allies" you did it more often and with more venom. With friends like that enemies look rather nice.

Gramlins and MHA merger?

Thats what it sounds like to me, white *peace all around.

It just rolls off the tongue

The alliances involved in the free GATO movement yesterday then the insult GATO movement today had selfish reasons for their wanting GATO “freed”. Earlier today I mentioned that it was a way to oppose NPO and while this is true it was, more accurately a way to indirectly attack NPO. This gives them the impression they are freedom fighters without having to take any risks. The very idea of going directly head to head with NPO would require courage that is in short supply with their enemies. The very fact that these same alliances who harass NPO indirectly at every opportunity lack the courage to directly attack them on the OWF or in game, while at the same time calling themselves friends or non enemies of NPO reinforces this truth. These people had a cash cow and it was GATO and EZI. In the stroke of a pen that propaganda tool was (mostly) taken from them, make no mistake these issues are nothing but a way to indirectly attack NPO. GATO was merely a pawn in their insidious plan. Upon being released from their terms GATO signed a PIAT with NPO. This treaty is insignificant except for the message it sends about the former enemies new non threatening relationship. Instead of rejoicing at their success, the free GATO movement couldn't insult GATO quickly or harshly enough. Having succeeded in their endeavour one would think they would have spent some time basking in the warmth of their success and congratulating GATO on their release from terms, but something appalled them and sent them on aggressive rampage against GATO & to a lesser extent (unsurprisingly) NPO. The aggressive reaction against GATO throughout the day today can only be explained by the signing of this PIAT. The aggressive reaction against GATO throughout the day today bears all the hallmarks of an unfulfilled project. This leaves us with one question: what were the expectations of the free GATO movement beyond wanting GATO freed from terms? Assuming they wanted GATO freed in the first place, something that looks unlikely after the reaction today they appear to have wanted GATO to break all ties with NPO. If this is the case, treaties with the free GATO movement alliances seems to be the next logical step. I don’t believe they would have wanted GATO to isolate themselves from the world after all the work they put in, it was job done, time to collect. This is the logical conclusion when the question is posed. It is apparent that these alliances had plans for GATO after they were freed, they were to give up the freedom they received to a cabal who had already decided GATOs future and were furious when their plan didn’t come to fruition. Congratulations GATO. You were released from one set of terms and avoided a second set in the same day. Enjoy your freedom and continue with decisions by GATO, for GATO and not the fraudulent free GATO movement

Congrats GATO. You can tell from the responses you are getting that the people who called for you to be freed of terms never really cared for you and just wanted to hit out at NPO. Good luck and remember all those who insult your decision to sign this treaty, only yesterday were self appointed spokespersons for your alliance.

It everything to do with his post, he knows why.

My response has nothing to do with TPF, Valhalla or this treaty cancellation, so your assumption is dead wrong.

You can eat my !@#$ you $@ smoking mother$%&@er, I wont forget you anytime soon.

You assume I think like you do, I dont because I am not you. I am perfectly happy, does this make me a sheep? No it make me different to you. It means I am thinking for myself, you are not thinking for me. Again you seem to think if I dont think your way I havent read the posts properly or there is something wrong with me. There is not, I am happy as things are, you might not like it, but thats life.

Only if the option is not taken.

They probably didnt too. We will never know because they refuse to show the evidence. Don't be silly people aren't raising a ruckus because he is Ivan (whatever that means)its because NSO say trust him hes Ivan, Ivan doesn't lie.