Alterego

Its more like you want everyone to believe the ocean has a bottom. You say the ocean has a bottom and you have irrefutable proof, we should just trust you. However you dont feel like showing proof. This seems like an exercise in faith and you want to know just who, outside NSO is blind loyal to Ivan and the NSO. Can you hear an amen? not from me!

It was said earlier only allies would be shown the alleged evidence and this thread has continued because the NSO don't want to share the alleged evidence. My guess is that the questions and speculation will continue as a result. When were they informed of the cancellation?

I'm trapped here.

I was merely trying to point out that the anti hegemony mantra of people being mindless in their support for it should be applied to their own argument when they mindlessly bleat the party line to take down the hegemony. Does the original Vox/anti hegemony line of "you are too stupid to see the truth" sway many people? I could say they are too stupid to see the truth too, but wouldn't think much of the people I swayed with such a flimsy argument.

Why didnt you say that earlier, case closed everyone.

That should also go for the anti hegemony party line of you are mindless/stupid/blind etc if you disagree with the anti hegemony lobby.

You underestimate the number of sadists on Bob, they know and they are happy.

Good point and the answer is they are chickens. They want to mouth off to get credits for being free speakers or some rubbish but lack the balls to practice what they preach and do something about it.

Someone has been taken out of context.

For the love of Christ. It wasnt my opinion but a summary of the OP.

I misinterpreted, my apologies.

CB is BS

People are very vocal, they just dont say what you want them to say so you like to think they are stupid or cowards.

I cant recall a stronger one, can you?

Poseidon/Pegasus/PEACE purple unity bloc MDoAP Valhalla TPF Invicta

What of those who are playing the part of people who cant grasp the idea that people are playing roles?

You're already in anarchy...

I recommend you join an alliance. There are many fine alliances who can help you with all aspects of nation building and defense.

Probably the best treaty cancellation I've seen, sometimes people just drift apart. Your open & concise explanation should guarantee no tinfoil hat stuff. Good luck.

Not my cup of tea.

BAPS: mini GOONS

I'd rather you weren't in RnR before trying to recruit you.

It doesnt change who sponge was and continues to be. Some Vox members have similar segments of their histories, this in no way makes them the same. Sponge joined Vox after his down fall and the people i think you are comparing him with put their nations, positions in their respective alliances and friends on the line to oppose what they saw as an evil empire. The fact they were all in similar positions of power within similar alliances says nothing about how they got to where they are now. I see no evidence of change or remorse unlike some of the people you see as similar to sponge.

Very true, I would rather have him than not have him. No innuendo please.

Not at all.