BringMeTheHorizon

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CN wiki article(s) to update: Relevent OWF link(s) (below): 1. http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?/topic/119047-no-new-aas-no-new-aas-no-new-aas-no-no-new/ - DoE 2. http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?/topic/119976-lets-start-a-riot/ DoW 3. http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?/topic/120926-dios-mio/ DoW What needs updating?: Basically everything. No one in RIOT can, or wants to learn how to do it. We have a few threads there already just for funssies, but nothing is really done well. I copied a template from someone else, and used it for ours.

Congrats CCC

Well, welcome.

I like a lot of the old school Hawaiian music, like Hapa.

da fuck is CS GO

Barefoot Natives, and Willie K are my favorite

To be fair, it's not about her, since she's in Sparta. I'm just as confused as you about the wording in the OP.

I hate your new avatar.

Judging by all the hateful queries i've had to deal with, you're wrong.

Oh shit DT and RIOT are at war now!

They're just robots

Probably the most hated alliance in the game right now!

Look, anything I say, short of showing you logs from our discussion with FAN, or DT. Or screen shots of our embassy on DTs forum, and our from our forums will not convince you. If you want to believe there is something deeper than there is, sure go ahead. I wont sit here, and lie and say that hitting NSF doesn't make me extremely happy, the only reason we're attacking them is FAN asked for our help with NSF, they were the target we could do the most damage. EDIT (THAT HAD ALREADY DoWed)This isn't us getting a cheap shot in on NSF, or anything. I apologized to DT before we attacked. Rey, if you have any other concerns I will address them. But I will not be going on about this part of the discussion anymore, because you keep thinking it's something that it isn't.

Am I supposed to scouring all the wars across the globe, see random nations attacking FAN then if I don't see a DoW. Am I supposed to think they are sanctioned? That's like seeing NSO nations attacking someone, without a NSO DoW, are they sanctioned?

Wow... are you missing the point where we said if NSO attacked, we'd attack NSO? The reason for NSF was that Die Linke had so far not posted a DoW or gotten involved. UCR was the original target, so why attacked them! We were going in if anyone attacked FAN. If we attacked them (Die Linke) without them posting a DoW, you'd have !@#$%*ed about that as well, and what if they weren't going to attack, we'd be attacking people who weren't going to get involved. We could have attacked OG, but there weren't a lot of target in our ranges. In fact we attacked before Die Linke even posted DoW's.... I just don't understand what you're not getting, you really are trying too hard, man. I concur, it does not look good. Any attack we made was not going to look good, but what good are agreements if you don't honor them? For the plethora of other targets, read above.

You keep knit picking one thing, but when you compare it to both actions, you'd see a different result. We went to NSF, asked if they were going to attack. They said yes. We then went to DT, said he if this happens X will happen. We were told they weren't going to attack. Then they attacked. We cared enough about DT, to go to them and explain out entire position. We went to NSO, you, asked if they were going to attack. Because we heard you'd be attacking. They (you) said no. We went to Kashmir to say hey, we're going to be attacking, and hopefully NSO doesn't like they said, because we heard otherwise. We might get countered, so hopefully NSO doesn't attack. This is what is happening. Be ready. Just because my concern does not encapsulates the modern accepted form of caring, does not mean I did not care enough to go to both of my allies, treated them the same, after going to the source for my answers on if two AA's were going to war. One did not, and one did, here we are.

Yes. EDIT: We did the same thing with NSF that we did with NSO. Asked if they were going to attack. As logs have been provided. We treated no one different in this situation. One person attacked, one did not, that is the only difference. We treat everyone the same. There are no favorites.

Post the logs.

If you wanted to wrench Kashmir onto two different sides when we already went to them and told them that we were going to be attacking NSf, after we already told DT, then yes, show people the logs of what I said. There's nothing in there that won't be me being an !@#$%^&, it will show you harping on something that I don't care about, and I told you as much, yet you kept !@#$%*ing about FAN being an OOC attack, we don't believe so. Yes I said if you guys attack FAN it would hurt the KCP, because it would split us into two separate sides. So yes, I was concerned that your posturing might actually lead to something more than being a little whiney ass !@#$%*. I didn't expect NSO to man up after the war, at all, but I wanted to ask you, to be certain. Only because if you attacked, and then we go attacked in the process, it would but the KCP into harm, and split us onto opposing sides. So Yes. I cared enough about kashmir to see if you guys were attacking. Because no one wants to defend two people, and I wont be upset with DT if they chose not to defend us (which they probably wont) if we get attacked by NSF allies. I just wanted to extend a courtesy to Kashmir, and see if you were attacking, because I heard you were. So go ahead rey, show the logs, and show the world your ability to comprehend what I was asking, and able to continue a conversation, without trying to play a propaganda war.

Continuing down this vein of discussion will wield nothing. Come talk to me on irc, rey. Where I will explain it to you.

I'm not trying to "play the victim". I actually don't remember openly taunting them? If you could show me on the forums, or something, i'll say maybe you're right. Because I just simply don't remember. Also, no one needs credibility to be right, and or wrong. If someone is right, they are right. If someone is wrong, they are wrong. No matter who they are.

I wasn't going to comment on anything in this thread, because it simply wasn't needed, and anyone who know's what was going on, does. Or was able to read an embassy. But i'll lay it out for people. Yes, a member of RIOT was raiding someone in NSF, NSF came to me, asked what was up. I said, you can keep attacking him, per our charter any member of RIOT can raid who they want, we just wont defend them. They were fine with that. Then about a month later, yes a month later of NSF/Castros fighting each other. After NSF, and I had an agreement, their second in command comes to me out of the blue. We even, after everything died down, put his membership up to a vote (because he was majorly inactive, and using our good will for people who raid against us). He is no longer with us. [6:49pm] Grealind: Your inaction will have repercussions. [6:50pm] BringMeTheHorizon: Such as? [6:50pm] Grealind: I want this ended [6:50pm] Grealind: If that means some of your members get hit as collateral, so be it. [6:50pm] BringMeTheHorizon: Talk to Castros then. He was a member of NSF before wasn't he? [6:50pm] BringMeTheHorizon: You'd hit a mutual ally? [6:50pm] Grealind: I'm talking to you now. You're his alliance leader. [6:51pm] Grealind: You intervene, or I will. So, after we had an agreement about the whole thing, we thought it was done, and when Castros was done attacking NSF, NSF would be done attacking him. Which was agreed upon, I think CRV can show you the logs of our conversation. Then we found out I think 2-3 days NSF was going to attack FAN before they attacked FAN, and we went to talk to them about it, since DT was our mutual ally, to make sure this wasn't true, and to impress upon them that they not attack. <Saxplayer> And also, if any of this information gets leaked to FAN, I will make sure DT has your head, and all of RS on a silver platter. <Lysergide> It is what it is, but it was FAN who told me. <Lysergide> So they already know. <Lysergide> I wouldn't put too much stock in GATO fighting hard. <Saxplayer> FAN told you thid <Lysergide> Yeah. <Lysergide> I have friends in FAN. <Saxplayer> Well, this is !@#$%* <Lysergide> I won't confirm it for them. <Lysergide> I promise you that. <Saxplayer> If you do, I will carry out that threat We were threatened by NSF twice within like a week. They were even going to use DT, and have us dropped, then have DT attack us for telling our friend something they already knew. So yes, we actually did attack a mutual ally, after a lot of thought, and we shall accept the consequences. We also don't believe that a mutual ally should not suffer the consequences of threatening us twice in a week, and vowing to go through with having us dropped by our ally, then rolled by our ally.

We have three DoW's for you to chose from. Which one is your favorite? [INSERT WITTY TITLE] [INSERT FLAG] So I was checking my pager and noticed that some reed-obsessed fool was making wild and untrue accusations about my supplier. This left me thinking: why exactly would they want to do such a thing? Looking deeper into this case, I noticed that my biggest FAN was being jumped by some vanilla midgets with little charisma and gimmicks. This made me sad, how else would the world be able to decide what was quality entertainment? Then it hit me, why should we tolerate this whole situation like they do up NORTH? No, we aren't going to take this so-called STAR from this so-called FEDERATION. The only way to be able to show that we weren't going to take such lackluster performance, and thus, the only course of action was to RIOT! This is for the good of our SOCIETY. Batter up, it's going to be a rough ride. [INSERT SIGNATURES HERE] - Franz [10:29pm] BringMeTheHorizon: FHIC is supposedly writing me a witty DoW [10:29pm] BringMeTheHorizon: ! [10:30pm] FHIC: Oh, !@#$, didn't see the "By 11" [10:30pm] Franz: Heh. [10:30pm] Franz: It's not too hard to write a DoW, just requires the need to be relevant to the target. [10:31pm] Franz: You could do what I do and just write from the hip. [10:31pm] BringMeTheHorizon: It's not for oldies! [10:31pm] Franz: They are called the North Star Federation, they are probably !@#$%*^. [10:32pm] Franz: Find a way to take the piss out of their name, colour team, government... and big up your allies / FAN. [10:32pm] BringMeTheHorizon: Actually Franz, can I just quote you on that? [10:32pm] Franz: Sure. [10:32pm] BringMeTheHorizon: There's our DoW [10:33pm] Franz: Might want to alter the "!@#$%*^" and "piss" to words which won't trigger the elawyers. [10:33pm] BringMeTheHorizon: $%&@ em [10:34pm] FHIC: They've really got a good motif going here. Flag looks like an !@#$%^&. Team is brown. "Star" in the name. -Combined Effort RIOT has noticed an increased amount of gunfire in the community lately, now this is normally not a cause of concern. RIOT is all about the shooting, generally speaking, but when it comes to this round, FAN getting in the fray changes things. So this time, we’re taking up arms in support. So we’re taking to the hood of Bob, and declaring war on the Brown pantsed !@#$%*^ in NSF. The RIOT begins today, put on your brown- oh, you’re already wearing them. Good, that makes things easy. In case you couldn’t understand, check your war screens, if you aren’t at war with someone from RIOT, good, you’re probably not in NSF, points to you. Shave N Haircut #2 Is my favorite! Which is yours? /s/ el Presidente

Wrong.