Lavo Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 Our principle targets were military bases. It is regretable that civilians died, but Tahoan civilians died at the hands of the Rebel Army as well. We have no intention of controlling Equador in any form, but RA must, and will withdraw. Whether it is done peaceably or by force is up to you. One way results in a peaceful, stable Equador, one results in a blood bath. "You're missing our point, and one of Ecuador and Rebel Army's main reasons for not considering this brutal demand. You purposely hit innocent civilians, in cold blood, for no reason, and now expect those who suffer to this very day due to your own belligerent actions to trust you. The people of Ecuador utterly despise the Tahoe Republic, and would not mind if it ceased to exist due to it's crimes. The very fact that you are even a part of this coalition brings up memories of death and destruction, sadness and loss. Even if we, the people of Ecuador, wished to leave Rebel Army, which we do not, we shall never do so with Tahoe's gun to our head. In our minds, leaving Rebel Army will only bring our people more bloodshed. Today, I call upon all able bodied men and women of our great nation to rise up to protect your brethren. We shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender." -Rafael Correa, President of Ecuador Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king of cochin Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 "And if any European, Asian or American country has colonies in Africa before the Aphrike treaty was signed, they will still be dealt with appropriately. History may be set in stone but we can always blast the stone away." xxPrivatexx "Let us see how they go about doing that. The arrogance of these nations thinking they can bully every nation without consequence!!" said an official in MEA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amyante Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 "Given the circumstances, Zargathia supports Rebel Army's presence in Ecuador. While freedom is indeed a valuable thing, we believe these matters cannot be forced down the throat of a nation that to our knowledge hasn't given a sign that they want to be free of their 'oppressor' in the first place." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabioviejo Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 Kyivan Rus' wonders if Rafael Correa is an avid cigar smoker by accident? He sounds so familiar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadowsage Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 The Holy Imperium would prefer Ecuador to remain in the capable hands of Rebel Army. Furthermore, any occupation be it a declared Protectorate or actual annexation of Ecuador by any country not of South America will be seen as a direct violation of the 'Mirror, Mirror' doctrine as well as an attack against the continental security both ourselves and the Phoenix Empire have pledged to defend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HHAYD Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 "Given the circumstances, Zargathia supports Rebel Army's presence in Ecuador. While freedom is indeed a valuable thing, we believe these matters cannot be forced down the throat of a nation that to our knowledge hasn't given a sign that they want to be free of their 'oppressor' in the first place." What about the colony being shot down in Africa? Did RA and their buddies paid attention to the colony's citizens if they wanted the colony destroyed or remain in the colony? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lavo Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 Kyivan Rus' wonders if Rafael Correa is an avid cigar smoker by accident? He sounds so familiar. OOC: He's Ecuador's president IRL, so I'm just using the name/person here. And for reference, unless otherwise stated the person in my posts (guy in quotation marks) is Rafael. IC: *SIC to HIoM* "We deeply thank you for our moral support, in our time of need. This is may be even more of a threat to our people then Tahoe's nuclear strikes of old. After this is all done with, or perhaps right now, would you wish to make our relations more formal?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoot Zoot Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 Chairman Wesker, after re evaluating the Situation has decided to pull out of the Coalition. Whilst he fully supports Tahoe in its reasoning behind its actions, we cannot support a coaltion that also brings in a high risk of warfare and poses a direct threat to the Malvinian Territories or the Corporation, which is unacceptible. In the battle for Goose Green, the Malvinan Army lost two hundred thousand men holding back the leagions of the Patriots as they beseiged our Doorstep. The Patriots were an organised Military force, and yet many other Nations of this world, including RA could have swept them aside in a matter of days. The fact we lost almost a quarter Million of our soldiers to them, over a course of weeks. A threat such as the RA, IF these talks fell into warfare, opens up the doorway for a repeat of Goose Green, Only it would be a war we cannot win. It is for those reasons the Umbrella Corporation withdraws from the Coaltion and wishes the matters to be resolved with Diplomacy and without bloodshed and warfare." Private to Tahoe Sorry fellas, you have our support but we cannot involve ourselves in this issue for the reasons stated in the public announcment. sincerley Albert Wesker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadowsage Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 *Classified* The Rebel Army is always welcome to open relations with the Holy Imperium, under any circumstance an ambassador will be received. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpacingOutMan Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 When RA decided to start kicking another nation's colony out of Africa and saying that colonization is evil while still holding numerous colonies and protectorates all over the world. Good thing your intelligence officers consist of a multitude of retarded dimwitted morons who mistake UMS announcements as being RA announcements. The UMS is the one knocking on the door of an Italian colony which has no legitimate reason to be there. RA's war has nothing to do with colonialism. Nice try, it amuses us here at the UMS High Command when people try to act like they know what they are talking about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HHAYD Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 (edited) Good thing your intelligence officers consist of a multitude of retarded dimwitted morons who mistake UMS announcements as being RA announcements. The UMS is the one knocking on the door of an Italian colony which has no legitimate reason to be there. RA's war has nothing to do with colonialism. Nice try, it amuses us here at the UMS High Command when people try to act like they know what they are talking about. Hey, I think YOUR intelligence officers or something MISSED something: Rebel Army Declaration of WarQuite simply, Africa has been the victim of colonialism for far too long. It is high time that Africa belong to Africans, not those who seek to exploit their lands. And if colonialism was not horrible enough, fascism is a part of this wretched mix. An ideology who only brings suffering and oppression to all those bound by it's chains. The Rebel Army was created years ago for the sole reason of overthrowing and purging fascism in our own lands, and now as a sovereign and powerful nation, it is our duty, no, obligation, to aid in the toppling and overthrowing of fascist regimes throughout the world. As such, Rebel Army formally declares war upon Italica. If you wish to avoid bloodshed in this war, we demand you unconditionally surrender to the forces of Rebel Army. (By the way, that was announced by RA right after you did.) Edited December 7, 2009 by HHAYD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amyante Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 What about the colony being shot down in Africa? Did RA and their buddies paid attention to the colony's citizens if they wanted the colony destroyed or remain in the colony? "Our comment concerned only the RA's supposed colony in Ecuador, a colony which apparently no one had any problem with until today. The situation is no different from that in Korea, a former nation currently controlled by RA directly bordering us. Having said that, we assure you that our view of the Aphrike Treaty is dismal based on what has happened to the African continent since its formation, though the circumstances there cannot be compared to those in Ecuador, and thus would not fall under a single blanket statement." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpacingOutMan Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 Hey, I think YOUR intelligence officers or something MISSED something: Perhaps you should read the declaration where it says it is declaring war because of its fascist ways. It has been obvious for a long time that the Rebel Army opposes fascist regimes, and their declaration is consistent with that policy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lavo Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 *Classified*The Rebel Army is always welcome to open relations with the Holy Imperium, under any circumstance an ambassador will be received. SIC "That would be wonderful. We will be sending you Franco Moreno right away." Hey, I think YOUR intelligence officers or something MISSED something: Actually, if you looked at the DoW, you would see we are only at war with Italica. The reason we call them colonists is that the brutal, ruling, minority are European foreigners who have made the native people second-class citizens. So technically, they are not a colony, but colonists nonetheless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpacingOutMan Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 *Classified* The UMS will offer any financial support, along with transportation necessities, to the Rebel Army should it be requested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razgriz 2K9 Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 OOC: FFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUU---- Well there goes my designs for Alaska.... Thanks a lot.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeSchaine Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 Taeunas questions all of this. Why does it matter who has what where, if the people in these areas are being fairly treated, justly governed and have not had complaints or uprisings? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acca Dacca Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 We ask that both parties please sit down, listen to the demands of one another and meet a common ground. It isnt reasonable to declare on someone for territory they have kept peaceful for years. If making the American population of that area put under the leadership of an American is so important, then why would you risk lives? Try diplomacy, please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loannes Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 Taeunas questions all of this. Why does it matter who has what where, if the people in these areas are being fairly treated, justly governed and have not had complaints or uprisings? "Because world politics have degenerated into a huge, prick waving dick fight." -Georgi Carlinov, political comedian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manetheren Posted December 7, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 Why is this only being brought up now? The colony has been there since before the policy was enacted, so why did Tahoe not try to enforce this extorsion immediately? Perhaps the cowards were biding there time until they had enough personal strength to come close to matching Rebel Army. If so, that makes the policy extremely hypocritical. But what do we know? After all, we are just a backwater nation on the other side of the world. Please continue your pointless bickering. RA's hypocritical actions in Africa have been exposed. Taeunas questions all of this. Why does it matter who has what where, if the people in these areas are being fairly treated, justly governed and have not had complaints or uprisings? Because RA is not American. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael McBride Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 While the Federation supports the stance of the Republic of Tahoe in principal in this matter, we do not sign our name to this document. Instead, we ask both the leadership of the Republic of Tahoe and Rebel Army to come to Redemptio for a summit to discuss this issue. We know that this issue has divided our sides of the world for a long, long time. We see no reason that this has to come to bloodshed. Tahoe wants Rebel Army off the hemisphere, and Rebel Army doesn't want the land in Tahoe's hands. There is a large gray area that we can work with, and we hope the leaders of both countries will take us up on our offer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HHAYD Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 Classified message to The Tahoe Republic from President Frank Swater: If war comes, I will have to withdraw my signature. We can't do much in war time since we lack an air force, a navy, and proper border defenses. Plus, much of our military technology is still under research and development currently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uberstein Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 (edited) "Wait...if the RA is anti-Fascist, why are they in the EU? Greater Dalmatia is a dictatorship. As for their colonies, I would personally appreciate if Rebel Army turned the areas into Protectorates and slowly, through a multiple step process to ensure the people were able to adapt to the new regime, turn their colonies into sovereign nations with their independence guaranteed by Rebel Army. We need evolution, not revolution. A careful, non-violent process of becoming non-colonial that isn't just cut-and-run." -President Uberstein Edited December 7, 2009 by BaronUberstein Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voodoo Nova Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 "Wait...if the RA is anti-Fascist, why are they in the EU? Greater Dalmatia is a dictatorship. As for their colonies, I would personally appreciate if Rebel Army turned the areas into Protectorates and slowly, through a multiple step process to ensure the people were able to adapt to the new regime, turn their colonies into sovereign nations with their independence guaranteed by Rebel Army. We need evolution, not revolution. A careful, non-violent process of becoming non-colonial that isn't just cut-and-run." -President Uberstein "Just because a nation is a dictatorship, doesn't make it fascist." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nagato the Great Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 "Hmm, I wonder who will take control of Ecuador should it be taken...Certainly not Tahoe, they've never wanted any more land than the modest chunk they own." -Talk Show Host Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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