Sargun II Posted August 30, 2009 Report Share Posted August 30, 2009 (edited) OOC: This is considered before my declaration of existence. I will be properly rebelling in their territory as well as mine. Lavo has given me permission to own his protectorate. /OOC Morocco and 'Carthage' - and then the real Carthage. All three would soon be enveloped in a devastating war clearly fueled by a desire for independence and freedom. In the protectorate that was once owned by Rebel Army, the Carthaginian National Party quickly rose to power and signed a tenuous independent deal with Rebel Army. They would exist as a nation, as a rebellion: the deal would mean no war with Rebel Army. No war against the True government of Carthage. But they were not content. The Republic of Carthage and Morocco both considered themselves the ruler of their people. Their oppression would not go unanswered. The factories rolled out tanks by the dozens. F-22s were repaired and put to use. And, finally, a navy was built with massive speed with support from old Gebivian ships. The people had a military. And they would rise. All at once, across the borders of Morocco and the Republic of Carthage, dozens of thousands of men and hundreds of tanks streamed in a steady march. Without warning, Morocco and the Republic of Carthage were hit by twelve EMP-missiles each along their borders, destroying any electrical equipment. Soon after, F-22s, split into 24 squadrons per country, started escorting 16 squadrons of Tupolev TU-160 bombers to strikes at military outposts on each nation. As soon as the strikes were over, thousands and thousands of men streamed across the borders. Edited August 30, 2009 by Sargun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmpaSand Posted August 30, 2009 Report Share Posted August 30, 2009 (edited) OOC: Question. Do I not have every right simply to ignore this as it is not reflected in my ingame nation? IE; Botha mode? Also, you are attacking the wrong country. There is no country called Morocco. Not only that, the reroll rules state that you cannot use the old items and equipment of your old nation. Hence, the moves you have just posted are illegal and I request a game moderator to wipe them. Edited August 30, 2009 by AmpaSand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sargun II Posted August 30, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 30, 2009 (edited) OOC: Morocco is what we call it. Also, if you wish to ignore it that is your call. I'll just take the land without resistance. Also, I have edited to reflect my in-game nation with F-22s and Tupolev bombers. Edited August 30, 2009 by Sargun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colerich Krieg Posted August 30, 2009 Report Share Posted August 30, 2009 Secret IC: The Empire will honor its treaty with the Republic of Carthage if requested. We will also come to the aid of Moracco (If that is your nation Ampa, Im sure it is..) if attacked by an unprovoked power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voodoo Nova Posted August 30, 2009 Report Share Posted August 30, 2009 OOC: Question. Do I not have every right simply to ignore this as it is not reflected in my ingame nation? IE; Botha mode?Also, you are attacking the wrong country. There is no country called Morocco. OOC: No, and it's the region of Morocco. Botha recognizes IC wars, so you don't have the right to ignore this. IC: "We wish the North African region comes to peace and stability soon." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kevz Posted August 30, 2009 Report Share Posted August 30, 2009 OOC: Who wons this land? RA, Ampa or who? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colerich Krieg Posted August 30, 2009 Report Share Posted August 30, 2009 OOC: Who wons this land? RA, Ampa or who? OOC: Sargun is trying to take over AmpaSand's Moracco (I think.) and Hannibal Barcas's Republic of Carthage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kevz Posted August 30, 2009 Report Share Posted August 30, 2009 OOC: If you want to claim an area already claimed, you must first work something out with the owner. This means you cannot start a rebellion in their territory, a terrorist group, etc. without their permission. Thats straight from the rules/guidelines. If Ampa and Hannibal own the land Sargun needs their permission to rebel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmpaSand Posted August 30, 2009 Report Share Posted August 30, 2009 (edited) Secret IC:The Empire will honor its treaty with the Republic of Carthage if requested. We will also come to the aid of Moracco (If that is your nation Ampa, Im sure it is..) if attacked by an unprovoked power. Thank you. Tyran would appreciate the help. Open communication Tyran calls upon all nations. We are the people the small nation that wish for peace and small area for our nation. We have this. But it is under threat by murderous warlords. Thieves and bandits, who with their superior stolen weapons wish to crush the open country we hold. We call especially on Rebel Army, our benefactor who granted us this land. These vandals are laying waste to the people of your protectorate and murdering all that oppose them. Already reports are coming in of mass killings, and pictures relayed to us by international news crews have disturbing trends. The work of this army of villainy. Part of a 500 person village, men and children killed, the young women taken to be !@#$%*^. Edited August 30, 2009 by Astraia Mod edit: image removed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franz Ferdinand Posted August 30, 2009 Report Share Posted August 30, 2009 (edited) OOC: If you want to claim an area already claimed, you must first work something out with the owner. This means you cannot start a rebellion in their territory, a terrorist group, etc. without their permission.Thats straight from the rules/guidelines. If Ampa and Hannibal own the land Sargun needs their permission to rebel. OOC: I believe what he is doing is called a war, thus he, IC, would consider it a rebellion, yet OOC, we know it is just a war. Edited August 30, 2009 by Franz Ferdinand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colerich Krieg Posted August 30, 2009 Report Share Posted August 30, 2009 Thank you. Tyran would appreciate the help.Open communication Tyran calls upon all nations. We are the people the small nation that wish for peace and small area for our nation. We have this. But it is under threat by murderous warlords. Thieves and bandits, who with their superior stolen weapons wish to crush the open country we hold. We call especially on Rebel Army, our benefactor who granted us this land. These vandals are laying waste to the people of your protectorate and murdering all that oppose them. Already reports are coming in of mass killings, and pictures relayed to us by international news crews have disturbing trends. The work of this army of villainy. Part of a 500 person village, men and children killed, the young women taken to be !@#$%*^. Secret IC: Copy that. 2nd Krieg Army is prepping for Deployment. We also will be making use of Cruise and Ballistic Missile weaponry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kevz Posted August 30, 2009 Report Share Posted August 30, 2009 OOC: I believe what he is doing is called a war, thus he, IC, would consider it a rebellion, yet OOC, we know it is just a war. OOC: For it to be a war Sargun would have to invade from territory that is not controlled by any othe rplayer which if he is doing is fair but if he is spring the fight from someone elses territory that is a rebellion and he needs permission. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sargun II Posted August 30, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 30, 2009 (edited) Thank you. Tyran would appreciate the help.Open communication Tyran calls upon all nations. We are the people the small nation that wish for peace and small area for our nation. We have this. But it is under threat by murderous warlords. Thieves and bandits, who with their superior stolen weapons wish to crush the open country we hold. We call especially on Rebel Army, our benefactor who granted us this land. These vandals are laying waste to the people of your protectorate and murdering all that oppose them. Already reports are coming in of mass killings, and pictures relayed to us by international news crews have disturbing trends. The work of this army of villainy. Part of a 500 person village, men and children killed, the young women taken to be !@#$%*^. "This is a lie! Those citizens required to be rounded up, put into an order, and poisoned. Note the lack of gunshot wounds, the quickness by which the photograph was published, and the inability for our soldiers to have reached that far into the country. Tyran has murdered their own civilians in an attempt to discredit us and paint us as villains and rapists. Furthermore, these civilians are our people. We would not murder and $%&@ our own people, our own men and women. We are only after your military: our air strikes have only attacked military installations and our soldiers have been given orders to stay away from large civilian populations: surround them, secure them, but do not enter." Edited August 30, 2009 by Astraia mod edit: image removed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mergerberger II Posted August 30, 2009 Report Share Posted August 30, 2009 Dutch National Guard troops are being deployed to Morocco to attempt to protect civilian populations under the White Cross' banner. Additionally, Dutch Intelligence Officers are currently working with this latest news story, as it has little evidence to back it up. They believe it is false. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sargun II Posted August 30, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 30, 2009 (edited) Alessandro Romano, leader of the Carthaginian Rebellion, issued a statement at the Dutch National Guard: "Your presence is welcome. While this is war and people will die, we know that we are considered the aggressors and any misunderstanding can be fatal to our cause. The White Cross is welcome to assist the civilians and ensure they are kept out of harms way." --- Classified: fourty thousand soldiers and three hundred tanks, all massed at the massive Gibraltar factory and prepped along the Krieg border, set up for defensive warfare. The five carrier battle groups were dispatched, heading toward Gibraltar in an effort to secure it in the case of a Krieg attack. OOC: Mobilizing 40,000 troops, Krieg, is noticeable. Edited August 30, 2009 by Sargun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmpaSand Posted August 30, 2009 Report Share Posted August 30, 2009 "This is a lie! Those citizens required to be rounded up, put into an order, and poisoned. Note the lack of gunshot wounds, the quickness by which the photograph was published, and the inability for our soldiers to have reached that far into the town. Tyran has murdered their own civilians in an attempt to discredit us and paint us as villains and rapists." One can blatantly see the blood from the gunshot wound to the lower left hand side of the torso / upper thigh on the body in the lower right hand corner along with blood soaked ground underneath the bodies. Given that this photo and many others came from villages outside our borders and that our military has been in Al-Tyran for its entire inception there is no way this could have been perpetrated by our forces. Of course, there were thousands of raping murdering bandits crossing that area shortly before the pictures came in. We reiterate our call to the nations of the world for aid and support against these heinous killers. We have stationed our troops at the outskirts of Al-Tyran but fear with the advanced stolen or black market weapons these plunderers have obtained you shall watch nothing less than a genocide if you do not act. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sargun II Posted August 30, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 30, 2009 One can blatantly see the blood from the gunshot wound to the lower left hand side of the torso / upper thigh on the body in the lower right hand corner along with blood soaked ground underneath the bodies.Given that this photo and many others came from villages outside our borders and that our military has been in Al-Tyran for its entire inception there is no way this could have been perpetrated by our forces. Of course, there were thousands of raping murdering bandits crossing that area shortly before the pictures came in. We reiterate our call to the nations of the world for aid and support against these heinous killers. We have stationed our troops at the outskirts of Al-Tyran but fear with the advanced stolen or black market weapons these plunderers have obtained you shall watch nothing less than a genocide if you do not act. "The 'gunshot wound' you claim to exist on the torso of a single person are, in fact, brown spots on a shirt littered with brown spots. Your attempts to pass off a shirt as a bullet-ridden body is noted. We also note that only three bodies have 'blood' on them, and that it is spread evenly underneath their bodies in spots. Gunshot wounds would spread blood when shot across other corpses or even people behind them. This is a blatant lie." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmpaSand Posted August 30, 2009 Report Share Posted August 30, 2009 Dutch National Guard troops are being deployed to Morocco to attempt to protect civilian populations under the White Cross' banner.Additionally, Dutch Intelligence Officers are currently working with this latest news story, as it has little evidence to back it up. They believe it is false. Tyran, the legitimate nation would welcome the presence of Dutch peacekeepers. These desert raiders have tried to sway you but we know that your interest is one of support for the current free government. We will be deferring most of the military planning to you and / or other peacekeeping groups as our small military is likely to be overshadowed by your forces. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmpaSand Posted August 30, 2009 Report Share Posted August 30, 2009 "The 'gunshot wound' you claim to exist on the torso of a single person are, in fact, brown spots on a shirt littered with brown spots. Your attempts to pass off a shirt as a bullet-ridden body is noted. We also note that only three bodies have 'blood' on them, and that it is spread evenly underneath their bodies in spots. Gunshot wounds would spread blood when shot across other corpses or even people behind them. This is a blatant lie." We suggest you look again at the original image, many news-networks have picked up on your disinformation and your distribution of false images. The world will know that the primary source is the best, not secondary information spread around by these rapists hoping to cover up their crimes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voodoo Nova Posted August 30, 2009 Report Share Posted August 30, 2009 SIC: "Heh, Morocco showing their own heinous killings of their own citizens." Public: "The Commonwealth will be sending peacekeepers and humanitarian aid for civilians in Morocco to ensure major civilian centers are not attacked, alongside our Dutch friends. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elrich von Richt Posted August 30, 2009 Report Share Posted August 30, 2009 (edited) Imperial Dispatch: The Haruhiist Empire views this as a blatant invasion of sovereignty by this so called 'Carthage'. We believe before resorting to violent means, all nations should sit down and talk about the current situation. Although we will aid neither side and remain neutral, we advise that the rebellion consider diplomacy before bloodshed. Signed in Haruhi's name, Itsuki Koizumi Imperial Minister of Foreign Affairs OOC: This is retarded, Sargun. It dosen't matter if they're inactive, and yes I know this is now an IC matter. But you could honestly handle it better than this. Don't expect a reply from Hannibal for a bit, he lives in Norway so it's a timezone difference. Edited August 30, 2009 by Elrich von Richt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sargun II Posted August 30, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 30, 2009 We suggest you look again at the original image, many news-networks have picked up on your disinformation and your distribution of false images. The world will know that the primary source is the best, not secondary information spread around by these rapists hoping to cover up their crimes. "Then why is it that the Dutch, who have pledged humanitarian aid to Tyran, have already stated the pictures to be not what you claim?" "The Commonwealth will be sending peacekeepers and humanitarian aid for civilians in Morocco to ensure major civilian centers are not attacked, alongside our Dutch friends. "Humanitarian aid will not be intercepted. Peacekeepers will not be fired upon unless they fire first - which we doubt will ever happen." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmpaSand Posted August 30, 2009 Report Share Posted August 30, 2009 SIC:"Heh, Morocco showing their own heinous killings of their own citizens." Public: "The Commonwealth will be sending peacekeepers and humanitarian aid for civilians in Morocco to ensure major civilian centers are not attacked, alongside our Dutch friends. Thank you very much. We have only one civilian center of note and that is our capital Al-Tyran. You may send any aid there along with stationing any peacekeeping forces you may wish to send in the temporary barracks we have set up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voodoo Nova Posted August 30, 2009 Report Share Posted August 30, 2009 Thank you very much. We have only one civilian center of note and that is our capital Al-Tyran. You may send any aid there along with stationing any peacekeeping forces you may wish to send in the temporary barracks we have set up. "We will not keep our peacekeepers in your military barracks." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmpaSand Posted August 30, 2009 Report Share Posted August 30, 2009 "Then why is it that the Dutch, who have pledged humanitarian aid to Tyran, have already stated the pictures to be not what you claim?" We believe if you check, they were referring to the latest news story, which was infact your own broadcast trying to discredit our reporting and cover up your massacres. We fully support them in their decision to take it as false, it is the propaganda of brigands, rapists and murderers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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